Quote from: walkstall on April 09, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
When do I get my 2.500$ is saving.  I should have save 7.500$ in the last 3 year.   But it has cost me more then 8.000$ more then I was paying 3 years ago.   All Trump will do is give us more BS.

Barak Saddam Hussein is president. Under him, you don't get shit.  Under Hillary you'll get less and your taxes will go up. 

Here's a tip: Grow a brain and vote for Trump. He's the only one who can beat Hillary. He's also the most qualified man in the race.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:38:43 PM
You can prove that? Go ahead. Try.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/inside-the-donald-trump-presidential-campaign.html

QuoteAnd Nunberg is a lawyer wired into right-wing politics who has long looked up to "Mr. Trump," as he calls him. "I first met him at Wrestle­Mania when I was like 5 years old," Nunberg told me.

Throughout 2014, the three fed Trump strategy memos and political intelligence. "I listened to thousands of hours of talk radio, and he was getting reports from me," Nunberg recalled. What those reports said was that the GOP base was frothing over a handful of issues including immigration, Obamacare, and Common Core. While Jeb Bush talked about crossing the border as an "act of love," Trump was thinking about how high to build his wall. "We either have borders or we don't," Trump told the faithful who flocked to the annual CPAC conference in 2014.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:28:25 PM
How is it illogical for an employee who pays for his own insurance from a private company to get the same tax advantages as the big companies who provide group care? Explain why it should be any different.

You have to know a little something about business, being an employer and understanding the difference between expenses and income and taxes, businesses taxes vs personal taxes.

I already explained.  When an employer provides paid healthcare to an employee, it's the same as a portion of their wages, which is a deductible expense to the employer.

Someone who pays for their own insurance, or pays for dependent care through their employer, IS ALREADY, deductible on the schedule A form attached to your income tax return.

For those who don't file a schedule A, get a standard deduction of $6300  deduction on their tax form.  If you file a schedule A, you cannot take the standard deduction.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:38:43 PM
Your opinion only that there is an assistant doing the research job. THE DONALD is a hands-on manager. He knows more about this than all the other candidates combined.

Little hands jokes aside, no he doesn't.  He's clueless.

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Nope. What already happens is an insurance company non compete guarantee.

You're bad at this.  Here's BCBS as an example:

http://www.bcbs.com/about-the-companies/

Alabama, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Alaska, Premera Blue Cross Blue Shield

Arizona, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue Shield

California, Anthem Blue Cross

California, Blue Shield

Colorado, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Connecticut, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Delaware, Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield

District of Columbia, CareFirst Blue Cross Blue Shield

Florida, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Georgia, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Hawaii, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Hawaii

Idaho, Blue Cross

Idaho, Regence BlueShield of Idaho

Illinois, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Indiana, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield

Iowa, Wellmark Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Kansas, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Kentucky, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Louisiana, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Maine, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Maryland, CareFirst Blue Cross Blue Shield

Massachusetts, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Michigan, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Minnesota, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Mississippi, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Missouri, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield

Missouri, BlueCross and BlueShield of Kansas City

Montana, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Nebraska, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Nevada, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

New Hampshire, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

New Jersey, Horizon Blue Cross and Blue Shield

New Mexico, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

New York, BlueCross & BlueShield of Western

New York, BlueShield of Northeastern

New York, Empire Blue Cross and Blue Shield

New York, Excellus BlueCross BlueShield

North Carolina, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

North Dakota, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Ohio, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Oklahoma, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Oregon, Regence BlueCross BlueShield of Oregon

Pennsylvania, Highmark Blue Shield

Pennsylvania, Capital BlueCross -- Harrisburg

Pennsylvania, Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield -- Pittsburgh

Pennsylvania, Independence Blue Cross -- Philadelphia

Puerto Rico, BlueCross BlueShield of Puerto Rico

Rhode Island, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

South Carolina, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

South Dakota, Wellmark Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Tennessee, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Texas, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Utah, Regence BlueCross BlueShield of Utah

Vermont, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Virginia, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield *

Virginia, CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield *

Washington, Premera Blue Cross

Washington, Regence BlueShield

West Virginia, Highmark Blue Cross Blue Shield West Virginia

Wisconsin, Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Wyoming, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

Costa Rica, BlueCross BlueShield Costa Rica

Panama, BlueCross BlueShield of Panama

Uruguay, Blue Cross & Blue Shield de Uruguay

U.S. Virgin Islands, BlueCross BlueShield of the U.S. Virgin Islands

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HSA's not only have NOT been around, the Republican Party has been fighting to get them written into law for the past two decades. They are only in the experimental form and hardly make a difference. You REALLY need to pay attention here.

https://www.irs.gov/irb/2004-02_IRB/ar09.html

QuoteSection 1201 of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003, Pub. L. No. 108-173, added section 223 to the Internal Revenue Code to permit eligible individuals to establish Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) for taxable years beginning after December 31, 2003. HSAs are established to receive tax-favored contributions by or on behalf of eligible individuals and amounts in an HSA may be accumulated over the years or distributed on a tax-free basis to pay or reimburse qualified medical expenses.

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He makes his opponents and critics look clueless.

Even Rand Paul had to correct him on some basic stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRTl230M4X8&nohtml5=False

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He knows more about business and economics than all of you hacks combined.

No he doesn't.

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You are only theorists. While you have whiled away your time listening to Rush Limbaugh and sitting out elections, THE DONALD has been making payrolls and seeing the real world.

I started and sold a few companies.  Retired at 30.  Try again.

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It would do you good to learn from him. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

The only thing I could learn from him is how to scam people and get sued.  I wouldn't want to scam anyone, and I'm not really into getting sued.  Other than that, he's pretty worthless.

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That's just tasteless, even for a hack. You were birthed by a woman who was knocked up by someone. And it certainly sounds like you're envious as HELL that THE DONALD has made more of his life than you have made of yours.

I doubt it.

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He knows more about how things work than all of you hacks combined.

No he doesn't.

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Go ahead. Try building an empire of luxury hotels, resorts and golf courses all over the world. Try dealing with the obstacles he has dealt with.

Fine.  I'll work on a time machine and get to it.  The only thing I need to figure out is how to become one of Fred Trump's sperm.  Give me some time to work on that.  Meanwhile, how are Donald's lawsuits going?

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You'd last ten minutes.

I'm an actual businessman.  I wouldn't start stupid crap like Trump Steaks.  He isn't a real businessman like I am.  That's just reality.  The guy you support and look up to is a loser.  Sorry.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:40:25 PM
Barak Saddam Hussein is president. Under him, you don't get shit.  Under Hillary you'll get less and your taxes will go up. 

Here's a tip: Grow a brain and vote for Trump. He's the only one who can beat Hillary. He's also the most qualified man in the race.

Quote from: taxed on April 09, 2016, 08:44:01 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/inside-the-donald-trump-presidential-campaign.html

This was an opinion piece.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:40:25 PM
Barak Saddam Hussein is president. Under him, you don't get shit.  Under Hillary you'll get less and your taxes will go up.

You sound like a Bernie Sanders supporter, he's promising everyone lots of stuff.

It's not the government's job to "give" us stuff.  We here want them to leave us the hell alone, enforce the laws and protect the country. 

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:29:29 PM
I'll take Trump's website over an opinion piece.

I GAVE you the true details, not what some partisan motherfucking THINKS.

You also just proved my point above, that Trump is for govt controlled health care, while Cruz says he'll get govt out of health care.

QuoteAgain, as many have said, when did THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN come out with that?  I believe it was shortly after he advocated his long held previous position believing in some form of single payer health care reform. They had to get a false flag position out there to put down what he really believes.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:24:20 PM
He has been thinking this at least in his last couple of books.

Quote from: reason10 on April 09, 2016, 08:40:25 PM
Barak Saddam Hussein is president. Under him, you don't get shit.  Under Hillary you'll get less and your taxes will go up.

Wrong. You get everything from Obama except a job and freedom. That is why our unfunded liabilities and entitlements have increased exponentially.

QuoteHere's a tip: Grow a brain and vote for Trump. He's the only one who can beat Hillary.

Polls say otherwise.

QuoteHe's also the most qualified man in the race.

I know right! Because if he was president Vladimir Putin would say to his ministers "we gotta pull outta the Crimea because this Trump guy built hotels and stuff".

Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2016, 08:07:16 AM
You also just proved my point above, that Trump is for govt controlled health care, while Cruz says he'll get govt out of health care.

I'm afraid Ted's website is silent on health care.
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/

He has some good ideas, most of which he'll probably never get through a Democrat controlled Congress.

You're NOT going to get government out of health care. NO candidate is running on that. Anyone who did would be considered delusional.

Quote from: reason10 on April 10, 2016, 10:29:22 AM
I'm afraid Ted's website is silent on health care.
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/

He has some good ideas, most of which he'll probably never get through a Democrat controlled Congress.

You're NOT going to get government out of health care. NO candidate is running on that. Anyone who did would be considered delusional.

We're TEA! Did you sleep through two historic mid term elections where we stole more than 1000 Legislative seats from the left?
No, unless Trump were to magically get the nomination and the base stayed home, there is no way the Dims are coming back to power.
Cruz is the next POTUS, mark my word.

QuoteHere's Cruz on HC.

Healthcare
Since Sen. Cruz took office, he has been a leading voice for repealing Obamacare. In fact, the first piece of legislation he filed, co-sponsored by 32 Republicans, was to fully repeal Obamacare.

Before the law went into effect in January 2014, Sen. Cruz led the effort to halt its implementation and defund Obamacare, filibustering it on the floor for an historic 21 hours.

Obamacare is causing millions to lose their jobs, be forced into part-time work, lose their doctors and health insurance, and pay skyrocketing premiums. This law isn't working. Instead, Congress should repeal Obamacare and make meaningful reforms to expand Health Savings Accounts, allow individuals to purchase insurance across state lines, and make health care more personal, portable, and affordable.

Since Obamacare's implementation, Sen. Cruz has opposed the law's unconstitutional mandates. He authored an amicus brief supporting Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Specialties against the contraception mandate that forced individuals to either violate their conscience or pay crippling fines. In the summer of 2014, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of religious liberty and upheld the right of small business owners to operate in accordance with their beliefs.
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=34

Quote from: reason10 on April 10, 2016, 10:29:22 AM
I'm afraid Ted's website is silent on health care.
https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/

However he talks about it constantly.

QuoteHe has some good ideas, most of which he'll probably never get through a Democrat controlled Congress.

Neither could Trump or any republican president.

QuoteYou're NOT going to get government out of health care. NO candidate is running on that. Anyone who did would be considered delusional.

No but the federal government's involvement could be almost eliminated.

Quote from: reason10 on April 10, 2016, 07:06:38 AM

This was an opinion piece.

No it wasn't.  He interviewed those people at Trump Towers.

Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2016, 10:42:52 AM
We're TEA! Did you sleep through two historic mid term elections where we stole more than 1000 Legislative seats from the left?
No, unless Trump were to magically get the nomination and the base stayed home, there is no way the Dims are coming back to power.
Cruz is the next POTUS, mark my word.

Quote from: walkstall on April 10, 2016, 01:15:37 PM

Why does commonsense elude Trumpaloons?