Quote from: TXborn on March 24, 2016, 03:45:32 PM
yeah, Cruz won Utah but difference in delegates for Trumps win in Arizona means Donald picks up 2 more delegates than Cruz

Canceled out via strategy.

Donald Trump beat Sen. Ted Cruz earlier this month in Louisiana's Republican presidential primary by 3.6 percentage points, but the Texan may wind up with as many as 10 more delegates from the state than the businessman.

Mr. Cruz's supporters also seized five of Louisiana's six slots on the three powerful committees that will write the rules and platform at the Republican National Convention and mediate disputes over delegates' eligibility this summer in Cleveland.

The little-noticed inside maneuvering that led to this outcome in Louisiana is another dramatic illustration of the inside game that could have an outsize influence on the bitter race for the GOP nomination. A similar process played out three weeks ago in Coweta County, Ga.

While Mr. Trump leads in winning primary and caucus elections, and has won more delegates, the Cruz campaign is proving superior at the arcane game of picking the people who will be the actual delegates to the convention, where they will help write the rules and ultimately choose the nominee.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ted-cruz-gains-in-louisiana-after-loss-there-to-donald-trump-1458861959

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2016, 06:28:26 AM
Canceled out via strategy.

Donald Trump beat Sen. Ted Cruz earlier this month in Louisiana's Republican presidential primary by 3.6 percentage points, but the Texan may wind up with as many as 10 more delegates from the state than the businessman.

Mr. Cruz's supporters also seized five of Louisiana's six slots on the three powerful committees that will write the rules and platform at the Republican National Convention and mediate disputes over delegates' eligibility this summer in Cleveland.

The little-noticed inside maneuvering that led to this outcome in Louisiana is another dramatic illustration of the inside game that could have an outsize influence on the bitter race for the GOP nomination. A similar process played out three weeks ago in Coweta County, Ga.

While Mr. Trump leads in winning primary and caucus elections, and has won more delegates, the Cruz campaign is proving superior at the arcane game of picking the people who will be the actual delegates to the convention, where they will help write the rules and ultimately choose the nominee.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ted-cruz-gains-in-louisiana-after-loss-there-to-donald-trump-1458861959

Trump uses bankruptcy court, "Hey it's the law, and I used it, all legal!"
Cruz uses political process to win, "We are a nation of laws."

Trump will undoubtedly say, "Cruz cheated"
Cruz can say, "Didn't you learn anything from all those past defeats?"

Insanity - repeating the same thing & expecting different results.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 25, 2016, 06:41:29 AM
Trump uses bankruptcy court, "Hey it's the law, and I used it, all legal!"
Cruz uses political process to win, "We are a nation of laws."

Trump will undoubtedly say, "Cruz cheated"
Cruz can say, "Didn't you learn anything from all those past defeats?"

Insanity - repeating the same thing & expecting different results.

Yep
An informed electorate would make the Right decision, but Trumpettes are an emotional lot that live on anger; they'll never connect the dots, though I believe his base is shrinking daily.

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2016, 07:55:09 AM
Yep
An informed electorate would make the Right decision, but Trumpettes are an emotional lot that live on anger; they'll never connect the dots, though I believe his base is shrinking daily.

I visit other conservative boards and am shocked at how many are supporting and defending Trump.  I just don't get it and I'm extremely disappointed by it.

Why can't they see what I/we do? 

Quote from: Dori on March 25, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
I visit other conservative boards and am shocked at how many are supporting and defending Trump.  I just don't get it and I'm extremely disappointed by it.

Why can't they see what I/we do?

Ever get the feeling we're in the modern equivalent of those times where Adherents to the True Faith had to draw symbols in the dirt, just to self-identify? (Here, fishie, fishie....) C for Cruz? Nah, too obvious: the libs would say it stands for Calgary....

Maybe it's a protest vote that became a national suicide note. Maybe we're all anarchists this cycle and we just can't stand any of these criminals and we want them gone, even if it means a New York enema like Trump to cleanse our political digestive system.

Quote from: Dori on March 25, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
I visit other conservative boards and am shocked at how many are supporting and defending Trump.  I just don't get it and I'm extremely disappointed by it.

Why can't they see what I/we do?

That's what happens when a site is flooded with libs/Trumpettes.

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2016, 11:00:02 AM
That's what happens when a site is flooded with libs/Trumpettes.

I have yet to see a coherent Trump supporter on the boards. They all come off as loud ADD enthusiasts...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 25, 2016, 11:12:58 AM
I have yet to see a coherent Trump supporter on the boards. They all come off as loud ADD enthusiasts...

Yep, pure emotion.

Quote from: Solar on March 25, 2016, 11:15:00 AM
Yep, pure emotion.

Also, they are becoming totally paranoid about Cruz. Trump is doing a good job of solidifying his establishment opposition to make sure he does not get the nomination.

Meanwhile, The dems are gleeful - until they remember Hillary is their albatross.

Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on March 24, 2016, 10:38:52 AM
My brother Sauce, here was a game commonly played (often by the more street-smart, less ethical students) called, "Let's-you-and-him-fight!" This whole thing was contrived by a salivating, savagely miscreant mass media in order to generate news website hits and T.V. viewers - nothing more or less than that. This was a classic case of, "Schoolyard 101," as the owner of the Right Minds forum (the other place I post) so appropriately pointed out over there, to an outraged poster.

So yes, there is an element of truth to the entire thing - maybe Cruz should be held to some extent responsible even for things that he didn't order, condone or approve, (though not lying)  and Trump for promulgating some misconceptions of his own, but any of those issues pale in comparison to the other far-more substantive ones which occurred recently regarding the heinous, monstrous actions/statements of the Eightball Obama, Hill-O-lies Clinton, Colonel Sanders and the Cacogenic Crusade of the 'Crats.

Don't be manipulated into mistaking friends for enemies by a mass media which is expert in only one thing - instigating strife and discord.

I would gladly vote for either Cruz (my preference) or Trump (flaws notwithstanding) before any other candidate, least of all any of the 'Crat candidates.

That's sad.  Even sadder, you think there's a difference between Hillary and Trump.

Quote from: Dori on March 25, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
I visit other conservative boards and am shocked at how many are supporting and defending Trump.  I just don't get it and I'm extremely disappointed by it.

Why can't they see what I/we do?

Here's what they see:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trump-the-unelectable/msg298178/#msg298178

That is one huuuuge difference between Trump and HilLIARy.
She is all in for whatever the ruling clique wants,
that being the liquidation of America.

Quote from: Dori on March 25, 2016, 08:09:46 AM
I visit other conservative boards and am shocked at how many are supporting and defending Trump.  I just don't get it and I'm extremely disappointed by it.

Why can't they see what I/we do?

I don't visit those sites, one time was enough (I had followed a Sarah Palin article to one of them).

None of them want to to elect a strong leader who would turn on their values, yet, many of the promises Donald Trump has made - are already up for negotiation.  Does Trump has one of those "executive decision" making balls on his desk?  Maybe he has one of these:

http://www.zazzle.com/the_executive_decision_maker_magic_8_ball_style_dartboard-256579697806555292

Reminds me of John Kerry, 'first I was for it, then I came out against it'.

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This is just to .... unbelievable.  Nobody knows where Trump stands on the issues, neither does he

With Ted Cruz, there is no doubt, he is solidly in the Constitutional - Conservative - TEA camp.
Liberty, Freedom & restoring our rights outlined in the Bill of Rights.

Quote from: taxed on March 25, 2016, 06:15:38 PM
That's sad.  Even sadder, you think there's a difference between Hillary and Trump.

Okham's Razor - If Trump wants to be reelected, he will steer to a course which is more in line with conservative values - because leftism is a sure path to utter and complete catastrophe. Trump may be amoral and not aligned with conservative values, but he is a pragmatist and therefore less likely to be a catastrophe as president than Hill-O-Lies, Colonel Sanders or any other 'Crat. To assume that he would not be requires an adjunct assumption that he is either too dumb or too indifferent to reelection to govern pragmatically (ie., to largely reject the worst aspects of leftism).

Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on March 27, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Okham's Razor - If Trump wants to be reelected, he will steer to a course which is more in line with conservative values - because leftism is a sure path to utter and complete catastrophe. Trump may be amoral and not aligned with conservative values, but he is a pragmatist and therefore less likely to be a catastrophe as president than Hill-O-Lies, Colonel Sanders or any other 'Crat. To assume that he would not be requires an adjunct assumption that he is either too dumb or too indifferent to reelection to govern pragmatically (ie., to largely reject the worst aspects of leftism).

While I won't say that assumption's flat out wrong, Trump has few examples of pragmatism as a conservative.   As a LIBERAL pragmatist, he's got a boatload of examples, with contributions to the most LEFTIST Liberals to boot! 

I view Trump as the salesman he is, not a businessman, not a politician.

a.  He "sells" investors and bankers on "investment ideas" even though business analysis says it's a poor or worse loser - ... Casinos in New Jersey...?  Which ones succeed or are still open?
b.  The guy throws money around like ... a kid who doesn't have any, trying to snooker/impress his friends with "so much wealth, this is a meer pittance".
c.  An honest salesman doesn't more than BELIEVE in the product, he BACKS IT UP, good and bad.  Trump "sells more sizzle" than steak.
d.  Many successful companies are started in a garage, cheap rental facilities - not these expensive "Brand Name" nonsense.  Every penny is tracked, hence, I'm really skeptical about Trump's alleged wealth.
e.  Name Branding is ALL Trump has.  Again, for effect, NAME BRANDING is ALL Trump has.  In case anyone missed it, Name Branding is ALL Trump has. 

Why he'll protect his name over the everything else, even the nation's best interests.

Yeah, and some of Trump's policy ideas on the economy echo Herbert Hoover (another businessman turned politician) who protectionist policies (such as the catastrophically ill advised Smoot-Hawley tariffs) precipitated and worsened the Great Depression, led to FDR being elected three times and to all of the horrifying damage that FDR's horribly misguided policies did to the foundational structure of the U.S. government.

To my knowledge Senator Cruz has proposed nothing more radical than anything Reagan proposed, such as lessening government regulatory control in non-essential sectors (eliminating tinkering by elitist social scientists) reducing the corporate tax rates (Trump also favors this, which only proves he'd smart enough to listen to reason in some cases) strengthening the military and cutting non-essential social programs so that spending can be concentrated on vital infrastructural upgrades and repairs.