Paul was too willing to go along with the RINOs in congress.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.

Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate.  I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.

I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz.  My first choice was Rand Paul.

I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out.  Could you have supported him?

Who?

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 19, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
Who?

I just know him as Mitch McConnell's staffer...

He's a coward and needs to be treated as one. He tucked his tail between his legs and ran off leaving Rep. Steve king all by himself with them dreamers. He ran so fast that he left his lunch behind and went to the bar.

I kicked that S.O.B. out of my foxhole when I seen this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8rCleTbSo

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
I get what you're saying about Rand Paul.  I didn't find him charismatic or engaging either, just right on the issues.  I agree with you about Trump though about the whole silent majority thing.  Don't say anything good about Trump too loudly around here though.  Apparently he's viewed worse than Obama in these parts.  odd.

Why so odd? Trump is a liberal just like Obama. This is a conservative forum. Makes sense to me.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
When did I claim he was a conservative?

Rand Paul himself did when he chose to throw his hat into the ring to be our nominee for Potus. Not the fault of anyone here Mr. Paul's actions while serving in the Senate do not reflect that claim. Nor is it the fault of anyone here, that you chose to show up voicing support for both, all the while claiming to be so militantly libertarian.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:03:20 AM


I guarantee that I can go toe to toe with any of you on this site in terms of absolute loathing and disdain for the leftist scum that pervade our society.

If you say something bad about Calvin Coolidge or Barry Goldwater or say something good about Woodrow Wilson or Barack Obama in my presence there's a very real chance you may be physically assaulted.

Did I make myself clear?

Any questions?

Want to talk about odd?

What is truly "odd" is for an alleged Conservative/libertarian to show up claiming how conservative or libertarian they are.

Who immediately begins by making statements of support for not one, but two, liberals. Trump and Paul.

Both of whom are politicians that lack the spine enough, to stand up and be honest about the fact they hold liberal views.

Just a heads up coolidge, most here judge politicians by their actions, not by what they claim. Talks is cheap, the proof is in the pudding!

Both Trump and Paul in the past have said, and done things which demonstrate anything but conservative/libertarian ideology.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM

I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out.  Could you have supported him?

I tried to Like both Rand Paul and His Daddy Ron, but too many things they both said and did got in the way for me to have any support towards the Libertarian contingent.

I'm real big on National security, anti terrorism, law and order, anti illegal immigration, all are tangled up together with me due to my background and experience.  And the Paul boys were just too weak and flimsy in this area for my support. Both Dad and Rand lost me when they start talking about "the US created Usama Bin Laudin" and "The ME Terrorist situation is somewhat our fault for messing in their countries". That sounds too much like blame America for all the worlds ills when I hear nonsense like that.

Then the death blow is legalized drugs, especially heroin and cocaine, something that would empower our enemies and rogue nations and the terrorists that populate them ten fold. And would increase the roles on Obamaocare ten fold.

Sticking a folk in the corpse is when Rand gave any sort of support at all to that low life, miserable, traitorous Son of a herpoid 3 dollar street Ho' SNOWDEN who should have been kidnapped by a Triad gang in Hong Kong and thrown in Mirs bay with 300 lbs of chains.

I suppose at ONE TIME if either Pops or Rand would have by some miracle gotten the nomination and ran I would have held my nose, pulled the level and pray feverantly that some national security advisors would sit them down and talk sense to 'em.

But Rand totally blew it when he started playing lap dog to McConnell.

I'd probably vote for mickey mouse or write in Ted Cruz if Rand Paul would have gotten the Nomination.....which is what I will do if it is Trump.

I like Rand's hair. It's sort of driving with the top down.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 19, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
I like Rand's hair. It's sort of driving with the top down.

HeHe good hair doesn't make a good Potus. 

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on February 19, 2016, 03:53:58 PM

I tried to Like both Rand Paul and His Daddy Ron, but too many things they both said and did got in the way for me to have any support towards the Libertarian contingent.

I'm real big on National security, anti terrorism, law and order, anti illegal immigration, all are tangled up together with me due to my background and experience.  And the Paul boys were just too weak and flimsy in this area for my support. Both Dad and Rand lost me when they start talking about "the US created Usama Bin Laudin" and "The ME Terrorist situation is somewhat our fault for messing in their countries". That sounds too much like blame America for all the worlds ills when I hear nonsense like that.

Then the death blow is legalized drugs, especially heroin and cocaine, something that would empower our enemies and rogue nations and the terrorists that populate them ten fold. And would increase the roles on Obamaocare ten fold.

Sticking a folk in the corpse is when Rand gave any sort of support at all to that low life, miserable, traitorous Son of a herpoid 3 dollar street Ho' SNOWDEN who should have been kidnapped by a Triad gang in Hong Kong and thrown in Mirs bay with 300 lbs of chains.

I suppose at ONE TIME if either Pops or Rand would have by some miracle gotten the nomination and ran I would have held my nose, pulled the level and pray feverantly that some national security advisors would sit them down and talk sense to 'em.

But Rand totally blew it when he started playing lap dog to McConnell.

I'd probably vote for mickey mouse or write in Ted Cruz if Rand Paul would have gotten the Nomination.....which is what I will do if it is Trump.

Good summary, Rand Paul is the guy I want to like but then he goes off and does the darnest thing on the weakest of issues ... he collapses (as outlined above).  On leadership, as it's been said - all he's done is sit there and "throw rocks".  What sets Ted Cruz apart, Paul's plans address some problems, but Ted's plan lays a path for the future.  Trump has no viable answer - just trust him.

Quote from: Hoofer on February 19, 2016, 05:29:07 PM
Good summary, Rand Paul is the guy I want to like but then he goes off and does the darnest thing on the weakest of issues ... he collapses (as outlined above).  On leadership, as it's been said - all he's done is sit there and "throw rocks".  What sets Ted Cruz apart, Paul's plans address some problems, but Ted's plan lays a path for the future.  Trump has no viable answer - just trust him.

A lot of the issues He and Daddy espoused I was for 100 %, Smaller less obtrusive Govt, disband the IRS, The EPA, Dept of Ed, and a few more or consolidate them and trim their budget to nil. Do away with the Fed, go on the Gold standard (a personal fav or mine) No more foreign aid or very little, (But support Israel of course).

Don;t be so eager to get involved in Military conflict, but this last point they went around the bend, saying stupid shit like "well Iran is 12,000 miles away why worry about them with a nuke'...that tells me you are in lala land instead of the real world.

Anyhow its a moot point, Rand is finished.

This is just another area where Rand Paul and Ted Cruz absolutely SHINE over Donald Trump.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-apple-idUSKCN0VS2LS

Quote"Boycott Apple until such time as they give that information," Trump said at a campaign event in Pawleys Island, South Carolina. "It just occurred to me."

A stupid hair-trigger response to an issue he hasn't thought through.

Trump is an idiot who can't think one year into the future.  Sure, force Apple to open the door, and every Business whom uses an Iphone is open for hacking.  Ted Cruz said, just open THAT ONE phone, but don't change the software - it's a good secure product.

Then to show his complete technological stupidity:

Quote"If Apple doesn't give the information to the authorities on the radical Islamic terrorists, I'll only be using a Samsung - until such time as they give the information," Trump tweeted.

"Hopefully others will follow suit. Our country needs and should demand security. It is time to get tough and be smart!"

Completely contradicting himself, again...  tight security means nobody gets in.   If they really want to know who this guy called, go to his cell carrier - this is a lazy man excuse.

Quote from: Hoofer on February 19, 2016, 07:01:59 PM


Trump is an idiot who can't think one year into the future.  Sure, force Apple to open the door, and every Business whom uses an Iphone is open for hacking.  Ted Cruz said, just open THAT ONE phone, but don't change the software - it's a good secure product.

Actually Ted was a bit more in depth and thorough with his answer when asked by Anderson Cooper at the townhall the other night (I think the vid is still posted in another thred here)

Ted said they were UNDER A COURT ORDER ie: That IMPLIES apple must obey the law or face the consequences. That means he isn't buying apples BS about they can;t do it with out opening other phones until they develop a software for it.....the SOB's just don;t want to spend the money to do it....

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.

Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate.  I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.

I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz.  My first choice was Rand Paul.

I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out.  Could you have supported him?

Never took him or his crackpot father seriously---ever.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.

Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate.  I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.

I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz.  My first choice was Rand Paul.

I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out.  Could you have supported him?

Rand, like his Dad before him, was my first choice.All water under the bridge, now, of course. I will now vote for Cruz if he gets the nomination. All others need not apply.