I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Why bring up a candidate who is no longer running.
Quote from: redsun on February 19, 2016, 07:24:28 AM
Why bring up a candidate who is no longer running.
Are we never allowed to talk about him again then?
I'm just curious how people feel about him. It's called having a conversation.
He has his pluses and minuses.
Quote from: Cruzman on February 19, 2016, 07:27:33 AM
He has his pluses and minuses.
Could you please elaborate?
If he were still in the race and Cruz wasn't would you support him?
I like Rand. While I can understand where he is coming from, I dont necessarily agree with his extreme hard stance regarding privacy though. Such as an example, I am inclined to believe that Rand does/would side with Apple regarding the San Bernadino attackers phones. I, on the other hand, believe that the phones need to be opened up but the proper legal procedures need to be taken to have that done.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Many of us were Rand Paul fans. When he decided to align with McConnell, that's when the support ended.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Trump is a lib, and anyone claiming Conservative or LIBertarian status then state they support Trump, is either a complete idiot, liar, or just discovered politics, ie. kid.
As to Rand, this forum used to back him, but then he turned traitor and joined the enemy.
Sure, it's politics and even that is excusable, but as a man, he down right sucks. He comes off as a spoiled brat that believes he is somehow better than those that elected him, his temper tantrums and inability for humility removes any credibility of a man pursuing a position as leader of the free world.
Neither he nor Trump have the temperament needed to be in the WH.
Just look at Trumps reaction to the Pope, then look at his response at the Townhall. A POTUS measures his response, he bides his time and responds appropriately.
Trump is like a spoiled, dissed preteen that just lost phone privileges.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
I could have supported him IF I believed him and IF he had some semblance of leadership charisma...someone who has the power to rally and fire up the people. Paul is missing something for me. I don't know if he is able to work with the other side either. I think there's a deficit in his personality for POTUS material, and can't quite place my finger on it. I'm a Trump supporter as well, (used to be a toss-up between him and Rubio) and have taken much heat for it here. The man is no angel, by any means. He's quite the ass actually-which I like right about now. No PC in that man. But I believe he is will accomplish a job at hand and not sit back on political haunches while the country crumbles around him. Don't worry, there are millions Trump supporters who want to be PC and fail to publicly admit their following...a silent majority I truly hope. Hope to see you at the polls. I'll be the one wearing a bleach-blonde Trump hairpiece! :laugh:
Quote from: Traninit on February 19, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
I could have supported him IF I believed him and IF he had some semblance of leadership charisma...someone who has the power to rally and fire up the people. Paul is missing something for me. I don't know if he is able to work with the other side either. I think there's a deficit in his personality for POTUS material, and can't quite place my finger on it. I'm a Trump supporter as well, (used to be a toss-up between him and Rubio) and have taken much heat for it here. The man is no angel, by any means. He's quite the ass actually-which I like right about now. No PC in that man. But I believe he is will accomplish a job at hand and not sit back on political haunches while the country crumbles around him. Don't worry, there are millions Trump supporters who want to be PC and fail to publicly admit their following...a silent majority I truly hope. Hope to see you at the polls. I'll be the one wearing a bleach-blonde Trump hairpiece! :laugh:
I'll just look for the guy wearing a drool-cup with his shoes untied.
Quote from: Traninit on February 19, 2016, 10:05:03 AM
I could have supported him IF I believed him and IF he had some semblance of leadership charisma...someone who has the power to rally and fire up the people. Paul is missing something for me. I don't know if he is able to work with the other side either. I think there's a deficit in his personality for POTUS material, and can't quite place my finger on it. I'm a Trump supporter as well, (used to be a toss-up between him and Rubio) and have taken much heat for it here. The man is no angel, by any means. He's quite the ass actually-which I like right about now. No PC in that man. But I believe he is will accomplish a job at hand and not sit back on political haunches while the country crumbles around him. Don't worry, there are millions Trump supporters who want to be PC and fail to publicly admit their following...a silent majority I truly hope. Hope to see you at the polls. I'll be the one wearing a bleach-blonde Trump hairpiece! :laugh:
I get what you're saying about Rand Paul. I didn't find him charismatic or engaging either, just right on the issues. I agree with you about Trump though about the whole silent majority thing. Don't say anything good about Trump too loudly around here though. Apparently he's viewed worse than Obama in these parts. odd.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
I get what you're saying about Rand Paul. I didn't find him charismatic or engaging either, just right on the issues. I agree with you about Trump though about the whole silent majority thing. Don't say anything good about Trump too loudly around here though. Apparently he's viewed worse than Obama in these parts. odd.
You may support liberals and have no idea about who your voting for, nor have a political identity, but don't be surprised when he gets shredded.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
I get what you're saying about Rand Paul. I didn't find him charismatic or engaging either, just right on the issues. I agree with you about Trump though about the whole silent majority thing. Don't say anything good about Trump too loudly around here though. Apparently he's viewed worse than Obama in these parts. odd.
He's an admitted lib with NY values, has a progressive tax plan, wants to save Commiecare, a revolving door plan for illegals.
WTF more do you need to tell you he's not a damned Conservative?
Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2016, 10:17:13 AM
He's an admitted lib with NY values, has a progressive tax plan, wants to save Commiecare, a revolving door plan for illegals.
WTF more do you need to tell you he's not a damned Conservative?
When did I claim he was a conservative?
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
When did I claim he was a conservative?
Then why the fuck are you supporting the dumb ass lying lib?
Paul was too willing to go along with the RINOs in congress.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Who?
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 19, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
Who?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I just know him as Mitch McConnell's staffer...
He's a coward and needs to be treated as one. He tucked his tail between his legs and ran off leaving Rep. Steve king all by himself with them dreamers. He ran so fast that he left his lunch behind and went to the bar.
I kicked that S.O.B. out of my foxhole when I seen this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8rCleTbSo
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
I get what you're saying about Rand Paul. I didn't find him charismatic or engaging either, just right on the issues. I agree with you about Trump though about the whole silent majority thing. Don't say anything good about Trump too loudly around here though. Apparently he's viewed worse than Obama in these parts. odd.
Why so odd? Trump is a liberal just like Obama. This is a conservative forum. Makes sense to me.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
When did I claim he was a conservative?
Rand Paul himself did when he chose to throw his hat into the ring to be our nominee for Potus. Not the fault of anyone here Mr. Paul's actions while serving in the Senate do not reflect that claim. Nor is it the fault of anyone here, that you chose to show up voicing support for both, all the while claiming to be so militantly libertarian.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:03:20 AM
I guarantee that I can go toe to toe with any of you on this site in terms of absolute loathing and disdain for the leftist scum that pervade our society.
If you say something bad about Calvin Coolidge or Barry Goldwater or say something good about Woodrow Wilson or Barack Obama in my presence there's a very real chance you may be physically assaulted.
Did I make myself clear?
Any questions?
Want to talk about odd?
What is truly "odd" is for an alleged Conservative/libertarian to show up claiming how conservative or libertarian they are.
Who immediately begins by making statements of support for not one, but two, liberals. Trump and Paul.
Both of whom are politicians that lack the spine enough, to stand up and be honest about the fact they hold liberal views.
Just a heads up coolidge, most here judge politicians by their actions, not by what they claim. Talks is cheap, the proof is in the pudding!
Both Trump and Paul in the past have said, and done things which demonstrate anything but conservative/libertarian ideology.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
I
tried to Like both Rand Paul and His Daddy Ron, but too many things they both said and did got in the way for me to have any support towards the Libertarian contingent.
I'm real big on National security, anti terrorism, law and order, anti illegal immigration, all are tangled up together with me due to my background and experience. And the Paul boys were just too weak and flimsy in this area for my support. Both Dad and Rand lost me when they start talking about "the US created Usama Bin Laudin" and "The ME Terrorist situation is somewhat our fault for messing in their countries". That sounds too much like blame America for all the worlds ills when I hear nonsense like that.
Then the death blow is legalized drugs, especially heroin and cocaine, something that would empower our enemies and rogue nations and the terrorists that populate them ten fold. And would increase the roles on Obamaocare ten fold.
Sticking a folk in the corpse is when Rand gave any sort of support at all to that low life, miserable, traitorous Son of a herpoid 3 dollar street Ho' SNOWDEN who should have been kidnapped by a Triad gang in Hong Kong and thrown in Mirs bay with 300 lbs of chains.
I suppose at ONE TIME if either Pops or Rand would have by some miracle gotten the nomination and ran I would have held my nose, pulled the level and pray feverantly that some national security advisors would sit them down and talk sense to 'em.
But Rand totally blew it when he started playing lap dog to McConnell.
I'd probably vote for mickey mouse or write in Ted Cruz if Rand Paul would have gotten the Nomination.....which is what I will do if it is Trump.
I like Rand's hair. It's sort of driving with the top down.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 19, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
I like Rand's hair. It's sort of driving with the top down.
HeHe good hair doesn't make a good Potus. :lol:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on February 19, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
I tried to Like both Rand Paul and His Daddy Ron, but too many things they both said and did got in the way for me to have any support towards the Libertarian contingent.
I'm real big on National security, anti terrorism, law and order, anti illegal immigration, all are tangled up together with me due to my background and experience. And the Paul boys were just too weak and flimsy in this area for my support. Both Dad and Rand lost me when they start talking about "the US created Usama Bin Laudin" and "The ME Terrorist situation is somewhat our fault for messing in their countries". That sounds too much like blame America for all the worlds ills when I hear nonsense like that.
Then the death blow is legalized drugs, especially heroin and cocaine, something that would empower our enemies and rogue nations and the terrorists that populate them ten fold. And would increase the roles on Obamaocare ten fold.
Sticking a folk in the corpse is when Rand gave any sort of support at all to that low life, miserable, traitorous Son of a herpoid 3 dollar street Ho' SNOWDEN who should have been kidnapped by a Triad gang in Hong Kong and thrown in Mirs bay with 300 lbs of chains.
I suppose at ONE TIME if either Pops or Rand would have by some miracle gotten the nomination and ran I would have held my nose, pulled the level and pray feverantly that some national security advisors would sit them down and talk sense to 'em.
But Rand totally blew it when he started playing lap dog to McConnell.
I'd probably vote for mickey mouse or write in Ted Cruz if Rand Paul would have gotten the Nomination.....which is what I will do if it is Trump.
Good summary, Rand Paul is the guy
I want to like but then he goes off and does the darnest thing on the weakest of issues ... he collapses (as outlined above). On leadership, as it's been said - all he's done is sit there and "throw rocks". What sets Ted Cruz apart, Paul's plans address some problems, but Ted's plan lays a path for the future. Trump has no viable answer - just trust him.
Quote from: Hoofer on February 19, 2016, 05:29:07 PM
Good summary, Rand Paul is the guy I want to like but then he goes off and does the darnest thing on the weakest of issues ... he collapses (as outlined above). On leadership, as it's been said - all he's done is sit there and "throw rocks". What sets Ted Cruz apart, Paul's plans address some problems, but Ted's plan lays a path for the future. Trump has no viable answer - just trust him.
A lot of the issues He and Daddy espoused I was for 100 %, Smaller less obtrusive Govt, disband the IRS, The EPA, Dept of Ed, and a few more or consolidate them and trim their budget to nil. Do away with the Fed, go on the Gold standard (a personal fav or mine) No more foreign aid or very little, (But support Israel of course).
Don;t be so eager to get involved in Military conflict, but this last point they went around the bend, saying stupid shit like "well Iran is 12,000 miles away why worry about them with a nuke'...that tells me you are in lala land instead of the real world.
Anyhow its a moot point, Rand is finished.
This is just another area where Rand Paul and Ted Cruz absolutely SHINE over Donald Trump.http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-apple-idUSKCN0VS2LS
Quote"Boycott Apple until such time as they give that information," Trump said at a campaign event in Pawleys Island, South Carolina. "It just occurred to me."
A stupid hair-trigger response to an issue he hasn't thought through.
Trump is an idiot who can't think one year into the future. Sure, force Apple to open the door, and every Business whom uses an Iphone is open for hacking. Ted Cruz said, just open THAT ONE phone, but don't change the software - it's a good secure product.
Then to show his complete technological stupidity:
Quote"If Apple doesn't give the information to the authorities on the radical Islamic terrorists, I'll only be using a Samsung - until such time as they give the information," Trump tweeted.
"Hopefully others will follow suit. Our country needs and should demand security. It is time to get tough and be smart!"
Completely contradicting himself, again... tight security means nobody gets in. If they really want to know who this guy called, go to his cell carrier - this is a lazy man excuse.
Quote from: Hoofer on February 19, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
Trump is an idiot who can't think one year into the future. Sure, force Apple to open the door, and every Business whom uses an Iphone is open for hacking. Ted Cruz said, just open THAT ONE phone, but don't change the software - it's a good secure product.
Actually Ted was a bit more in depth and thorough with his answer when asked by Anderson Cooper at the townhall the other night (I think the vid is still posted in another thred here)
Ted said they were UNDER A COURT ORDER ie: That IMPLIES apple must obey the law or face the consequences. That means he isn't buying apples BS about they can;t do it with out opening other phones until they develop a software for it.....the SOB's just don;t want to spend the money to do it....
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Never took him or his crackpot father seriously---ever.
Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 19, 2016, 07:18:42 AM
I've only been here a short while but have taken a lot of shit for deigning to offer support to Trump.
Truth be told he's nowhere near my ideal candidate. I'm only supporting him because it looks like he will be the nominee and I will vote for him in Nov if it means stopping Hillary.
I know everyone on here is crazy for Cruz. My first choice was Rand Paul.
I'm curious how you all feel about Rand even though he's dropped out. Could you have supported him?
Rand, like his Dad before him, was my first choice.All water under the bridge, now, of course. I will now vote for Cruz if he gets the nomination. All others need not apply.
Quote from: Shooterman on February 20, 2016, 05:39:38 AM
Rand, like his Dad before him, was my first choice.All water under the bridge, now, of course. I will now vote for Cruz if he gets the nomination. All others need not apply.
You honorably supported him and I should have specifically exempted you in my statement. I apologize.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2016, 06:07:20 AM
You honorably supported him and I should have specifically exempted you in my statement. I apologize.
Hell, Quill, we've known each other far too long to be apologetic to each other at this stage.
Quote from: Shooterman on February 20, 2016, 06:35:43 AM
Hell, Quill, we've known each other far too long to be apologetic to each other at this stage.
Funny, I'm imagining "... slowly reholsters his ivory grip, Colt-45s ..." :tounge:
Quote from: Hoofer on February 20, 2016, 06:45:08 AM
Funny, I'm imagining "... slowly reholsters his ivory grip, Colt-45s ..." :tounge:
If I had a pair of ivory grip Colt 45s I would be worth considerably more than I am. :lol:
I would settle for a pair of Cimmaron clones.
Quote from: Shooterman on February 20, 2016, 06:35:43 AM
Hell, Quill, we've known each other far too long to be apologetic to each other at this stage.
:lol:
Serious question, in return:
Once you've BLOWN your opportunity, and your support fizzles, then what?
Quote from: Hoofer on February 20, 2016, 12:58:19 PM
Serious question, in return:
Once you've BLOWN your opportunity, and your support fizzles, then what?
Run for Senate. That's it, Rand burned his bridges with his base by backing and aligning with McCONnel, the enemy of the Right.
Quote from: Shooterman on February 20, 2016, 06:35:43 AM
Hell, Quill, we've known each other far too long to be apologetic to each other at this stage.
I saw that footer image gone and realized you HAD fought the good fight and deserved better than I gave your candidate(s). We
have known each other a long while. That is exactly why I apologized.
Quote from: walkstall on February 20, 2016, 07:51:21 AM
:lol:
Yeah, ain't we a bunch? So long in the tooth we leave gouges on the sidewalks.
Quote from: quiller on February 20, 2016, 11:34:26 PM
Yeah, ain't we a bunch? So long in the tooth we leave gouges on the sidewalks.
The Old Weaselteeth would still be leaving them. :ttoung:
Quote from: Shooterman on February 21, 2016, 05:19:24 AM
The Old Weaselteeth would still be leaving them. :ttoung:
I have absolutely some idea of what you're talking about.
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Quote from: taxed on February 19, 2016, 10:13:49 AM
You may support liberals and have no idea about who your voting for, nor have a political identity, but don't be surprised when he gets shredded.
Amazing how he's the one who's been doing the shredding, isn't it?
Quote from: Traninit on February 21, 2016, 06:02:43 PM
Amazing how he's the one who's been doing the shredding, isn't it?
Who is doing what shredding?