Remember December 7, 1941

Started by walkstall, December 06, 2015, 12:39:20 PM

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walkstall

A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

It is sad to think how far removed the younger generation is from this historic disaster.  It just becomes another date on the calendar to too many folks.

FDR was trying to avoid the war just like Obama is trying to avoid this one.  It always leads to disaster when you put your head in the sand and pretend all is well when it most definitely is NOT.

I know that my Dad certainly never failed to give great reflexion on this day each year.  The events were seared into his memory.... just like D-Day!  For that reason I also reflect on the great losses of those days each year.

daidalos

There's a lesson for the world to learn from that attack on the United States.



Payback is a real b...h :lol:
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

kroz

Quote from: daidalos on December 06, 2015, 03:23:17 PM
There's a lesson for the world to learn from that attack on the United States.



Payback is a real b...h :lol:

Yes, but it took a new Administration to do it!!!

Another good lesson!

Billy's bayonet

God rest the souls of the Men and Women who died on that long ao Dec 7th......lets us always be vigilant against SNEAK ATTACKS by foreign foes.
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

quiller

Quote from: kroz on December 06, 2015, 03:31:03 PM
Yes, but it took a new Administration to do it!!!

Another good lesson!

Would FDR actually have USED a nuke against Japan? Doubtful! Democrats have this amazing childlike belief that you can REASON with your enemies.

kroz

Quote from: quiller on December 06, 2015, 05:25:14 PM
Would FDR actually have USED a nuke against Japan? Doubtful! Democrats have this amazing childlike belief that you can REASON with your enemies.

Yes they do.  That was my point.  FDR would have never done it.  Wrong thinking... just like every democrat!

Billy's bayonet

The Dems would probably have said that Japan was practicing a religion of peace (Shinto and Buddhism) and we should just let them alone and maybe confiscate all the guns n America to crack down on "domestic terrorism".
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Hoofer

Quote from: walkstall on December 06, 2015, 12:39:20 PM
Pearl Harbor


Wifey and I visited the Arizona memorial... back in 1983, first week in December, I highly recommend it to everyone!
The most eerie feeling I've ever had visiting a memorial, an intense sense of loss, yet very respectful of the whole place.
The tiny bubbles of oil leaking, gave me a sense of reality or life ...   "this is more real than a headstone in a cemetery"

I don't know if I could ever go back there again, I feel like I lost more than tears there.
All animals are created equal; Some just take longer to cook.   Survival is keeping an eye on those around you...

kroz

Quote from: Hoofer on December 06, 2015, 06:08:53 PM
Wifey and I visited the Arizona memorial... back in 1983, first week in December, I highly recommend it to everyone!
The most eerie feeling I've ever had visiting a memorial, an intense sense of loss, yet very respectful of the whole place.
The tiny bubbles of oil leaking, gave me a sense of reality or life ...   "this is more real than a headstone in a cemetery"

I don't know if I could ever go back there again, I feel like I lost more than tears there.

I had a similar experience Hoofer.  Hallowed ground!

quiller

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 06, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
The Dems would probably have said that Japan was practicing a religion of peace (Shinto and Buddhism) and we should just let them alone and maybe confiscate all the guns n America to crack down on "domestic terrorism".

Ahem.


kit saginaw

Infamy. 

God bless the Americans who died there.

And the P-38 pilots and flight-crews who tracked-down and killed Isoroku Yamamoto.



" We got 'im. "

daidalos

Democraps, are totally incapable of sensing that sense of tremendous loss.




One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

daidalos

Quote from: quiller on December 06, 2015, 05:25:14 PM
Would FDR actually have USED a nuke against Japan? Doubtful! Democrats have this amazing childlike belief that you can REASON with your enemies.
Were we even trying to develop the atomic weaponry under FDR? Or did that all start later on, under Truman or after we learned the Germans were trying to work on one?
One of every five Americans you meet has a mental illness of some sort. Many, many, of our veteran's suffer from mental illness like PTSD now also. Help if ya can. :) http://www.projectsemicolon.org/share-your-story.html
And no you won't find my "story" there. They don't allow science fiction. :)

kit saginaw

Quote from: daidalos on December 07, 2015, 08:10:35 AM
Were we even trying to develop the atomic weaponry under FDR? Or did that all start later on, under Truman or after we learned the Germans were trying to work on one?

Einstein informed FDR of the hun nuke-plan in a 1939 letter after Leo Szilard squealed to Einstein...

Physicists already knew about a bomb-potential for a few years, until Szilard realized the nazi's now knew about it.  The key intelligence bit for FDR:

" I understand that Germany has actually stopped the sale of uranium from the Czechoslovakian mines which she has taken over. That she should have taken such early action might perhaps be understood on the ground that the son of the German Under-Secretary of State, von Weizsäcker, is attached to the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Institut in Berlin where some of the American work on uranium is now being repeated. "