Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
It's not Solar. Ohio's ass backwards anymore. So I wouldn't go by polling in any other state, to indicate who's going to get the electorals from Ohio.

Sheesh, where did I say Ohio? I stated Colorado as the representative State.

Quote from: Solar on November 30, 2015, 07:13:12 AM
Sheesh, where did I say Ohio? I stated Colorado as the representative State.

LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.

Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.

News Flash! The country is rejecting liberalism.

Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.

California is not a swing state!

obama's home-country; Kenya, has lost 16 percentage-points of favorability in his climate-change 'leadership' from 2010 to 2015, according to Pew Research.  Pew is leftist.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/ft_15-06-23-obama-climate/

 

Quote from: kit saginaw on December 01, 2015, 12:58:35 AM
obama's home-country; Kenya, has lost 16 percentage-points of favorability in his climate-change 'leadership' from 2010 to 2015, according to Pew Research.  Pew is leftist.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/ft_15-06-23-obama-climate/

I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries???   

Quote from: kroz on December 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries???   

With cans of food.  It works just like free stuff. 

Quote from: kroz on December 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries???   

Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? 

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? 

Yes.  Hilarious!!!   

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? 

all that for an empty soda bottle..!

I found this great page:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/compare/republican_presidential_nomination_2016_2012_2008.html

It shows the polls from 2016, 2012, and 2008 all as if it were "today" in those years.  Really makes you see how poor the polls can be at predicting a winner this early. 

Quote from: mhughes on December 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
I found this great page:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/compare/republican_presidential_nomination_2016_2012_2008.html

It shows the polls from 2016, 2012, and 2008 all as if it were "today" in those years.  Really makes you see how poor the polls can be at predicting a winner this early.

Good site, mhughes.  If you look at 2012 Romney was only slightly behind Cain.  And if Cain had not run into problems with a female co-worker accusing him of touching her inappropriately, he might have made the nomination.  He must have known that this accusation was going to bring him down so he dropped out of the race.  He also feared for his marriage.  So, it might be a good correlation to 2016.

2008 was an anomaly because McCain's campaign was thought to be dead in the water but he kept holding on by a shoe string.  That has not happened in recent memory.  McCain won because we had no good candidate.  They were all seasoned politicians.

But it is really hard to predict at this stage.

Poked around some more, this site actually has great summaries.  The Clinton vs. Cruz match ups over time:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

Quote from: mhughes on December 02, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
Poked around some more, this site actually has great summaries.  The Clinton vs. Cruz match ups over time:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html

Very interesting.  Thanks for posting this.

I think that when it gets down to the wire, Cruz could handily beat Hillary.  The General campaign will bring out all of her warts!   

Here's a new polling-the-polls, or public-opinion database:

http://morningconsult.com/

click 'polling' at bottom.

from yesterday's Gretchen Carlson interview:

http://morningconsult.com/polls/morning-consut-intelligence-fox-news/