Of course you all know how I despise polling, but one thing they do show, regardless of their leftist bent, is attitude and that's hard to hide.
OK so reading all the polls, they all make the same claims despite reality, like Bush still having a fighting chance, or the illusion they create with Sanders, O'Malley and Clinton being in the running.
Truth is, none of the socialists generate enthusiasm, and as bad as Clinton is, she is still seen as the leader, but when you do the math, she only draws a tiny percentage of the Nations support.
The metrics always tell a clearer story than the illusion the headline portrays.
So lets look at the polls, shall we, and keep in mind, this is just a slice, but it's still reflective of the country as a whole.
Part of this was taken from the PDF which is a download, which can be found here:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/co/co11182015_c23tbvm.pdf
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 48, Clinton 37 Trump +11
Colorado: Carson vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Carson 52, Clinton 38 Carson +14
Colorado: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 52, Clinton 36 Rubio +16
Colorado: Cruz vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Cruz 51, Clinton 38 Cruz +13
This tells more about Trump, than all the hype hides.
Clinton has the lowest favorability rating of any top candidate in Colorado, a negative 33 – 61 percent. Trump also gets a negative 34 – 58 percent favorability rating. Favorability ratings for other candidates are:
49 – 30 percent positive for Carson;
46 – 25 percent for Rubio;
37 – 33 percent for Cruz;
40 – 37 percent for Sanders.
Colorado voters say 67 – 30 percent that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy and 57 – 37 percent that Trump is not honest. Rubio has the best score for honesty, 58 – 28 percent, with Sanders at 56 – 30 percent, Carson at 57 – 33 percent and Cruz at 50 – 35 percent.
Here's an important question. I only posted the first two numbers, the first being the over all total and the second is TEA, simply because to post the rest doesn't line up with the names and makes it really confusing.
Note Trump's high negatives, strangely enough, higher than Bush.
2. (If Registered Republican) Are there any of these candidates you would definitely not support for the Republican nomination for president: Bush, Carson, Christie, Cruz, Fiorina, Gilmore, Graham, Huckabee, Jindal, Kasich, Pataki, Paul, Rubio, Santorum, or Trump? (Totals may add up to more than 100% because multiple responses were allowed)
Bush 21% 32%
Carson 5 4
Christie 13 17
Cruz 6 1
Fiorina 7 4
Gilmore 9 13
Graham 12 15
Huckabee 10 12
Jindal 7 4
Kasich 18 29
Pataki 10 15
Paul 15 13
Rubio 5 4
Santorum 6 6
Trump 32 24
1. (If Registered Republican) Who would you most like to see the Republicans nominate for President in 2016 if the candidates were Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich, George Pataki, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Donald Trump?
Tea BornAgain CONSERVATIVE Mod/
Tot Party Evangelical Very Smwht Lib Men Wom
Bush 2%
Carson 25 22
Christie 1 2
Cruz 14 32
Fiorina 5 4
Gilmore - - - - - - - -
Graham - - - - - - - -
Huckabee 1 - 3 -
Jindal 1 2
Kasich 1 1
Pataki - - - - - - - -
Paul 3 2
Rubio 19 14
Santorum - -
Trump 17 15
For more indepth on favorable and unfavorable, and it is worth a look because it really does give an inside as to how the nation is moving towards Cruz.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/co/co11182015_c23tbvm.pdf
I'm a big fan of five thirty eight for polling analysis - http://fivethirtyeight.com/
They do a lot of work identifying where error and bias in polls is coming from and really explain it well. In 2008 they predicted 50/51 states+dc and in 2012 predicted every single one.
This is interesting, from the 2012 results;
Among the more prolific polling firms, the most accurate by this measure was TIPP, which conducted a national tracking poll for Investors' Business Daily. Relative to other national polls, their results seemed to be Democratic-leaning at the time they were published. However, it turned out that most polling firms underestimated Mr. Obama's performance, so those that had what had seemed to be Democratic-leaning results were often closest to the final outcome.
Conversely, polls that were Republican-leaning relative to the consensus did especially poorly.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2015, 07:15:54 AM
Of course you all know how I despise polling, but one thing they do show, regardless of their leftist bent, is attitude and that's hard to hide.
OK so reading all the polls, they all make the same claims despite reality, like Bush still having a fighting chance, or the illusion they create with Sanders, O'Malley and Clinton being in the running.
Truth is, none of the socialists generate enthusiasm, and as bad as Clinton is, she is still seen as the leader, but when you do the math, she only draws a tiny percentage of the Nations support.
The metrics always tell a clearer story than the illusion the headline portrays.
So lets look at the polls, shall we, and keep in mind, this is just a slice, but it's still reflective of the country as a whole.
Part of this was taken from the PDF which is a download, which can be found here:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/co/co11182015_c23tbvm.pdf
Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Trump 48, Clinton 37 Trump +11
Colorado: Carson vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Carson 52, Clinton 38 Carson +14
Colorado: Rubio vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Rubio 52, Clinton 36 Rubio +16
Colorado: Cruz vs. Clinton Quinnipiac Cruz 51, Clinton 38 Cruz +13
This tells more about Trump, than all the hype hides.
Clinton has the lowest favorability rating of any top candidate in Colorado, a negative 33 – 61 percent. Trump also gets a negative 34 – 58 percent favorability rating. Favorability ratings for other candidates are:
49 – 30 percent positive for Carson;
46 – 25 percent for Rubio;
37 – 33 percent for Cruz;
40 – 37 percent for Sanders.
Colorado voters say 67 – 30 percent that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy and 57 – 37 percent that Trump is not honest. Rubio has the best score for honesty, 58 – 28 percent, with Sanders at 56 – 30 percent, Carson at 57 – 33 percent and Cruz at 50 – 35 percent.
Here's an important question. I only posted the first two numbers, the first being the over all total and the second is TEA, simply because to post the rest doesn't line up with the names and makes it really confusing.
Note Trump's high negatives, strangely enough, higher than Bush.
2. (If Registered Republican) Are there any of these candidates you would definitely not support for the Republican nomination for president: Bush, Carson, Christie, Cruz, Fiorina, Gilmore, Graham, Huckabee, Jindal, Kasich, Pataki, Paul, Rubio, Santorum, or Trump? (Totals may add up to more than 100% because multiple responses were allowed)
Bush 21% 32%
Carson 5 4
Christie 13 17
Cruz 6 1
Fiorina 7 4
Gilmore 9 13
Graham 12 15
Huckabee 10 12
Jindal 7 4
Kasich 18 29
Pataki 10 15
Paul 15 13
Rubio 5 4
Santorum 6 6
Trump 32 24
1. (If Registered Republican) Who would you most like to see the Republicans nominate for President in 2016 if the candidates were Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich, George Pataki, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Donald Trump?
Tea BornAgain CONSERVATIVE Mod/
Tot Party Evangelical Very Smwht Lib Men Wom
Bush 2%
Carson 25 22
Christie 1 2
Cruz 14 32
Fiorina 5 4
Gilmore - - - - - - - -
Graham - - - - - - - -
Huckabee 1 - 3 -
Jindal 1 2
Kasich 1 1
Pataki - - - - - - - -
Paul 3 2
Rubio 19 14
Santorum - -
Trump 17 15
For more indepth on favorable and unfavorable, and it is worth a look because it really does give an inside as to how the nation is moving towards Cruz.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/co/co11182015_c23tbvm.pdf
The Colorado polls are very interesting. This state is supposed to be ome of those so called battleground states, but these results definite show a strong lean to the GOP. Remember the silent majority.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 19, 2015, 08:15:02 AM
The Colorado polls are very interesting. This state is supposed to be ome of those so called battleground states, but these results definite show a strong lean to the GOP. Remember the silent majority.
Exactly why I chose it, I see Colorado as reflective of most of the US.
What I managed to glean from all of this and other polls, is Trump's negatives hold him back, as well as Carson's which only bares well for Cruz whom has yet to slide back in any polling, signifying his base is not only solid, but growing steadily.
Rubio on the other hand? Well no matter how they spin it, it comes down to a battle between him and Cruz in the end, and we know how that's going top play out. :lol:
Rubio at best, after Trump and Carson bow out, will have, if he's lucky 20% support, while Cruz carries the lions share.
The results of the CO poll are interesting, but like all polls, they can be rigged by the pollsters. Denver, Boulder and parts of the San Luis valley are liberal strong holds and vote accordingly. What will be interesting is to see if Senator Bennet (D-CO) is defeated in 2016, and also the make up of the Colorado legislature. The governor is a flaming liberal nitwit that is welcoming the 'refugees' with open arms, and will suffer the consequences if that backfires.
Quote from: tac on November 19, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
The results of the CO poll are interesting, but like all polls, they can be rigged by the pollsters. Denver, Boulder and parts of the San Luis valley are liberal strong holds and vote accordingly. What will be interesting is to see if Senator Bennet (D-CO) is defeated in 2016, and also the make up of the Colorado legislature. The governor is a flaming liberal nitwit that is welcoming the 'refugees' with open arms, and will suffer the consequences if that backfires.
Absolutely true, but that's why you have to study the metrics re: trends, that's really the only thing they're useful for.
Quote from: tac on November 19, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
The results of the CO poll are interesting, but like all polls, they can be rigged by the pollsters. Denver, Boulder and parts of the San Luis valley are liberal strong holds and vote accordingly. What will be interesting is to see if Senator Bennet (D-CO) is defeated in 2016, and also the make up of the Colorado legislature. The governor is a flaming liberal nitwit that is welcoming the 'refugees' with open arms, and will suffer the consequences if that backfires.
There is no IF. It will backfire. Obama has handed the GOP an absolutely slam dunk for 2016. The BIG question is whether the GOP will seize the moment. Cruz seems to be ahead of the others on this issue.
The PPP poll is left leaning but I figured I'd post it because it looks like , by this poll, Cruz is the one showing real momentum! Cruz is 3rd in this poll and they have really started to notice him, Or rather admit he's there! Liknd of fascinating what they are saying!
QuoteDemocratic-leaning Public Policy Polling notes its latest survey shows that little has changed from October in the Republican top tier:
Trump: 26 percent
Ben Carson: 19 percent
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz: 14 percent
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: 13 percent
Jeb Bush: 5 percent
Carly Fiorina; 4 percent
SNIP
In a head-to-head contest, Trump loses to Cruz, however.
Trump/Cruz: 44/46
Trump/Rubio: 46/44
Trump/Carson: 50/41
Trump/Bush: 56/34
According to the pollster, Cruz has also had an improvement in his favorability ratings, from 50/30 a month ago to 55/26 in the current survey.
Among "very conservative voters," Cruz is ahead.
Cruz: 29 percent
Trump: 24 percent
Carson: 22 percent
Also, among tea party voters:
Cruz; 26 percent
Trump: 23 percent
Carson: 23 percent
"He is definitely the candidate headed in the right direction with the right at this time," the pollster noted.
The margin of error for the whole survey is plus or minus 2.7 percentage points.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/donald-trump-leads-republicans-primary/2015/11/19/id/702856/#ixzz3rz4zOdYm
Quote from: redbeard on November 19, 2015, 03:47:51 PM
The PPP poll is left leaning but I figured I'd post it because it looks like , by this poll, Cruz is the one showing real momentum! Cruz is 3rd in this poll and they have really started to notice him, Or rather admit he's there! Liknd of fascinating what they are saying!
Exactly my point for posting the metrics, Cruz is steadily moving up, despite the efforts of the media in ignoring him.
Interesting. I've always had the feeling that the media is pushing Trump (or Bush) because those are the candidates that the voters dislike almost as much as Clinton. Also in a way he's the most vulnerable of her possible opponents. Look at it this way. Trump - as he often tells us - is a billionaire businessman. Do you really believe, once in office he's going to piss off the Demorats - who are strong in the bureaucracy - or all those other businessmen he (and his kids) will have to deal with? Think about OSHA at his properties every day while he's running and/or constant audits of his finances. He's been rich all his life, what would the prospect of being reduced to poverty look like?
A new poll has Cruz tied for second place with Carson.... both at 18%.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/290464180/NBC-SM-Nov-Rep-Primary-Toplines-Methodology-ONLY-11-20-15
Cruz is gaining support in Iowa at Carson's expense.
Terrorism and Foreign Policy goofs are costing Carson.
Per Politico
Quote from: kroz on November 21, 2015, 11:02:14 AM
Cruz is gaining support in Iowa at Carson's expense.
Terrorism and Foreign Policy goofs are costing Carson.
Per Politico
:thumbsup:
Cruz ground work is paying off, he has been working Iowa for over a year, if memory serves me correctly.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Exactly why I chose it, I see Colorado as reflective of most of the US.
What I managed to glean from all of this and other polls, is Trump's negatives hold him back, as well as Carson's which only bares well for Cruz whom has yet to slide back in any polling, signifying his base is not only solid, but growing steadily.
Rubio on the other hand? Well no matter how they spin it, it comes down to a battle between him and Cruz in the end, and we know how that's going top play out. :lol:
Rubio at best, after Trump and Carson bow out, will have, if he's lucky 20% support, while Cruz carries the lions share.
Aside from my God in heaven I hope not!
Solar, why do you think that?
Quote from: daidalos on November 21, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
Aside from my God in heaven I hope not!
Solar, why do you think that?
Because like many States, there is one liberal hub that give the appearance that the entire State is liberal, and like Ca, Denver Co. is no different from La and the Bay Area, where the libs concentrate, while the majority of the State is solid Conservative.
Libs merely control large urban cesspits, like DC/Chicago, they get all he attention because of all the crime, giving the impression all of Ill. is a liberal Hell, as well as Co, Ca appears liberal, when nothing could be further from the truth, as the poll clearly points out.
Here's an interesting poll that wasn't in the news last week, not that I heard anyway.
The media claimed Cruz was in 2nd place, but according to Qiuinnipiac, Cruz is in a statistical dead heat with Trump for first place.
Not really surprised.
RCP Average 10/29 - 11/22
Quinnipiac Trump 25% Carson 18% Cruz 23% give or take +/- 3%
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ia/ia11242015_Ic344mgh.pdf
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Here's an interesting poll that wasn't in the news last week, not that I heard anyway.
The media claimed Cruz was in 2nd place, but according to Qiuinnipiac, Cruz is in a statistical dead heat with Trump for first place.
Not really surprised.
RCP Average 10/29 - 11/22
Quinnipiac Trump 25% Carson 18% Cruz 23% give or take +/- 3%
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ia/ia11242015_Ic344mgh.pdf
Yes, I saw that but I think it was in Iowa only.
They also say that Cruz polls as the most electable. I haven't quite found that poll. I have looked but cannot find it. He does rank highest in foreign policy in the polls.
Cruz is definitely moving up in Iowa and is putting together a strong ground game in the South for Super Tuesday, March 1.
This guy has a strategically shrewd game plan. He knows what he is doing.
Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
Yes, I saw that but I think it was in Iowa only.
They also say that Cruz polls as the most electable. I haven't quite found that poll. I have looked but cannot find it. He does rank highest in foreign policy in the polls.
Cruz is definitely moving up in Iowa and is putting together a strong ground game in the South for Super Tuesday, March 1.
This guy has a strategically shrewd game plan. He knows what he is doing.
Yes, it was Iowa, but the only thing the news reported was that Cruz was in 2nd, based on Qiuinnipiac polling averages.
But truth is, they include some serious leftist polling Co's.
I find in interesting how Qiuinnipiac has regularly polled Cruz higher than all the others.
Here's the link, the graph is rather telling as well.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Yes, it was Iowa, but the only thing the news reported was that Cruz was in 2nd, based on Qiuinnipiac polling averages.
But truth is, they include some serious leftist polling Co's.
I find in interesting how Qiuinnipiac has regularly polled Cruz higher than all the others.
Here's the link, the graph is rather telling as well.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html
All of this is playing out just fine. Doing well in Iowa is a good start for Cruz. I do not think he will do well in RINO NH, but SC is another story where a few faux conservatives will be eliminated. Then I expect him to do really well in the SEC primaries. More and more folks are paying attention to Cruz.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 29, 2015, 01:01:01 PM
All of this is playing out just fine. Doing well in Iowa is a good start for Cruz. I do not think he will do well in RINO NH, but SC is another story where a few faux conservatives will be eliminated. Then I expect him to do really well in the SEC primaries. More and more folks are paying attention to Cruz.
I believe he'll do even better than most think. Simply because Trump has peaked, has absolutely no front team or ground game in either state worth a shit, Rubio, despite claims he's a threat, has statistically flat-lined since the day he entered the race, and Carson has matched pace with Cruz in the polls, as Cruz rose, Carson fell equally as far in polling.
No, I think Ted will shock most election junkies. The sky is the limit for this guy.
He may not be perfect, but he's hands down the best in the field.
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
I believe he'll do even better than most think. Simply because Trump has peaked, has absolutely no front team or ground game in either state worth a shit, Rubio, despite claims he's a threat, has statistically flat-lined since the day he entered the race, and Carson has matched pace with Cruz in the polls, as Cruz rose, Carson fell equally as far in polling.
No, I think Ted will shock most election junkies. The sky is the limit for this guy.
He may not be perfect, but he's hands down the best in the field.
Absolutely!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Absolutely!! :thumbsup:
That to me is the key, his competition consists of a fraud lib pretending to be a Conservative, a RINO trying to pretend aligning with libs never happened, a doctor that has zero experience outside the hospital, oh, and I guess if you want to throw a bone to Jeb, a guy completely out of touch with the nation, hasn't a snowflakes chance...
In truth, Cruz will metaphorically slaughter each and everyone of these guys, simply because he refuses to pander to the left, something each and everyone of the other candidates has done.
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
That to me is the key, his competition consists of a fraud lib pretending to be a Conservative, a RINO trying to pretend aligning with libs never happened, a doctor that has zero experience outside the hospital, oh, and I guess if you want to throw a bone to Jeb, a guy completely out of touch with the nation, hasn't a snowflakes chance...
In truth, Cruz will metaphorically slaughter each and everyone of these guys, simply because he refuses to pander to the left, something each and everyone of the other candidates has done.
I totally agree with that! Staying principled and consistently conservative on all the issues is truly the key to winning this time around. Only Cruz has done that. No flip flops, no faux pas, and attacking no other GOP candidate! Superb.
Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 01:45:42 PM
I totally agree with that! Staying principled and consistently conservative on all the issues is truly the key to winning this time around. Only Cruz has done that. No flip flops, no faux pas, and attacking no other GOP candidate! Superb.
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no politician seemed bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no candidate seems bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:
Maybe God has blinded the other candidates to this reality! He has been known to do things like that!! :biggrin:
Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
Maybe God has blinded the other candidates to this reality! He has been known to do things like that!! :biggrin:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
It really would be easy, considering they already live in a bubble surrounded by yes men.
Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no politician seemed bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:
GOPe are not fast learners.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 30, 2015, 04:13:52 AM
GOPe are not fast learners.
:lol:
Commie tools were never chosen for their ability to think as individuals.
Boner is a perfect example of leftist tool. Look at pics of the guy when he first ran for office, same puppy dog eyes that even granny would trust, a reassuring voice of confidence, disguising a psychopaths mind that has only his own best interests at heart, as evidenced by his tenure in office, in selling out Americans on behalf of his handlers.
He's the poster child RINO, epitome of evil, right next to McCONnel.
I hate using the term RINO, because it's been decades since the party espoused Republican tenets, if ever, really.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Exactly why I chose it, I see Colorado as reflective of most of the US.
What I managed to glean from all of this and other polls, is Trump's negatives hold him back, as well as Carson's which only bares well for Cruz whom has yet to slide back in any polling, signifying his base is not only solid, but growing steadily.
Rubio on the other hand? Well no matter how they spin it, it comes down to a battle between him and Cruz in the end, and we know how that's going top play out. :lol:
Rubio at best, after Trump and Carson bow out, will have, if he's lucky 20% support, while Cruz carries the lions share.
It's not Solar. Ohio's ass backwards anymore. So I wouldn't go by polling in any other state, to indicate who's going to get the electorals from Ohio.
Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
It's not Solar. Ohio's ass backwards anymore. So I wouldn't go by polling in any other state, to indicate who's going to get the electorals from Ohio.
Sheesh, where did I say Ohio? I stated Colorado as the representative State.
Quote from: Solar on November 30, 2015, 07:13:12 AM
Sheesh, where did I say Ohio? I stated Colorado as the representative State.
LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.
Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.
News Flash! The country is rejecting liberalism.
Quote from: daidalos on November 30, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
LOL I think you misunderstand me. What I meant is this. Without the electoral votes from Ohio, Florida and California you can't win the the Presidency. And I don't think that the polling which you said was done in Colorado is really representative of the "mood" in those three states which seem to me, to be going even more liberal. Sorry I was not more "clear" in what I meant Solar.
California is not a swing state! :popcorn: :popcorn:
obama's home-country; Kenya, has lost 16 percentage-points of favorability in his climate-change 'leadership' from 2010 to 2015, according to Pew Research. Pew is leftist.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/ft_15-06-23-obama-climate/
Quote from: kit saginaw on December 01, 2015, 12:58:35 AM
obama's home-country; Kenya, has lost 16 percentage-points of favorability in his climate-change 'leadership' from 2010 to 2015, according to Pew Research. Pew is leftist.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/ft_15-06-23-obama-climate/
I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries??? :confused:
Quote from: kroz on December 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries??? :confused:
With cans of food. It works just like free stuff. :drool:
Quote from: kroz on December 01, 2015, 04:16:47 AM
I wonder how they "poll" in some of those third world countries??? :confused:
Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? :lol:
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? :lol:
Yes. Hilarious!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2015, 04:55:12 AM
Ever seen "The God's Must Be Crazy"? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
all that for an empty soda bottle..!
I found this great page:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/compare/republican_presidential_nomination_2016_2012_2008.html
It shows the polls from 2016, 2012, and 2008 all as if it were "today" in those years. Really makes you see how poor the polls can be at predicting a winner this early.
Quote from: mhughes on December 02, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
I found this great page:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/compare/republican_presidential_nomination_2016_2012_2008.html
It shows the polls from 2016, 2012, and 2008 all as if it were "today" in those years. Really makes you see how poor the polls can be at predicting a winner this early.
Good site, mhughes. If you look at 2012 Romney was only slightly behind Cain. And if Cain had not run into problems with a female co-worker accusing him of touching her inappropriately, he might have made the nomination. He must have known that this accusation was going to bring him down so he dropped out of the race. He also feared for his marriage. So, it might be a good correlation to 2016.
2008 was an anomaly because McCain's campaign was thought to be dead in the water but he kept holding on by a shoe string. That has not happened in recent memory. McCain won because we had no good candidate. They were all seasoned politicians.
But it is really hard to predict at this stage.
Poked around some more, this site actually has great summaries. The Clinton vs. Cruz match ups over time:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html
Quote from: mhughes on December 02, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
Poked around some more, this site actually has great summaries. The Clinton vs. Cruz match ups over time:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.
I think that when it gets down to the wire, Cruz could handily beat Hillary. The General campaign will bring out all of her warts! :wink:
Here's a new polling-the-polls, or public-opinion database:
http://morningconsult.com/
click 'polling' at bottom.
from yesterday's Gretchen Carlson interview:
http://morningconsult.com/polls/morning-consut-intelligence-fox-news/