A Peek Into What The Polls Really Say

Started by Solar, November 19, 2015, 07:15:54 AM

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Quote from: daidalos on November 21, 2015, 01:10:56 PM
Aside from my God in heaven I hope not!

Solar, why do you think that?
Because like many States, there is one liberal hub that give the appearance that the entire State is liberal, and like Ca, Denver Co. is no different from La and the Bay Area, where the libs concentrate, while the majority of the State is solid Conservative.
Libs merely control large urban cesspits, like DC/Chicago, they get all he attention because of all the crime, giving the impression all of Ill. is a liberal Hell, as well as Co, Ca appears liberal, when nothing could be further from the truth, as the poll clearly points out.
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Here's an interesting poll that wasn't in the news last week, not that I heard anyway.
The media claimed Cruz was in 2nd place, but according to Qiuinnipiac, Cruz is in a statistical dead heat with Trump for first place.
Not really surprised.
RCP Average   10/29 - 11/22   
Quinnipiac       Trump 25%  Carson 18%  Cruz 23% give or take +/- 3%                      

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ia/ia11242015_Ic344mgh.pdf
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Here's an interesting poll that wasn't in the news last week, not that I heard anyway.
The media claimed Cruz was in 2nd place, but according to Qiuinnipiac, Cruz is in a statistical dead heat with Trump for first place.
Not really surprised.
RCP Average   10/29 - 11/22   
Quinnipiac       Trump 25%  Carson 18%  Cruz 23% give or take +/- 3%                      

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ia/ia11242015_Ic344mgh.pdf

Yes, I saw that but I think it was in Iowa only.

They also say that Cruz polls as the most electable.  I haven't quite found that poll.   I have looked but cannot find it.  He does rank highest in foreign policy in the polls.

Cruz is definitely moving up in Iowa and is putting together a strong ground game in the South for Super Tuesday, March 1. 

This guy has a strategically shrewd game plan.  He knows what he is doing.

Solar

Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
Yes, I saw that but I think it was in Iowa only.

They also say that Cruz polls as the most electable.  I haven't quite found that poll.   I have looked but cannot find it.  He does rank highest in foreign policy in the polls.

Cruz is definitely moving up in Iowa and is putting together a strong ground game in the South for Super Tuesday, March 1. 

This guy has a strategically shrewd game plan.  He knows what he is doing.
Yes, it was Iowa, but the only thing the news reported was that Cruz was in 2nd, based on Qiuinnipiac polling averages.
But truth is, they include some serious leftist polling Co's.
I find in interesting how Qiuinnipiac has regularly polled Cruz higher than all the others.
Here's the link, the graph is rather telling as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Yes, it was Iowa, but the only thing the news reported was that Cruz was in 2nd, based on Qiuinnipiac polling averages.
But truth is, they include some serious leftist polling Co's.
I find in interesting how Qiuinnipiac has regularly polled Cruz higher than all the others.
Here's the link, the graph is rather telling as well.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html

All of this is playing out just fine. Doing well in Iowa is a good start for Cruz. I do not think he will do well in RINO NH, but SC is another story where a few faux conservatives will be eliminated. Then I expect him to do really well in the SEC primaries. More and more folks are paying attention to Cruz.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on November 29, 2015, 01:01:01 PM
All of this is playing out just fine. Doing well in Iowa is a good start for Cruz. I do not think he will do well in RINO NH, but SC is another story where a few faux conservatives will be eliminated. Then I expect him to do really well in the SEC primaries. More and more folks are paying attention to Cruz.
I believe he'll do even better than most think. Simply because Trump has peaked, has absolutely no front team or ground game in either state worth a shit, Rubio, despite claims he's a threat, has statistically flat-lined since the day he entered the race, and Carson has matched pace with Cruz in the polls, as Cruz rose, Carson fell equally as far in polling.

No, I think Ted will shock most election junkies. The sky is the limit for this guy.
He may not be perfect, but he's hands down the best in the field.
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 01:22:16 PM
I believe he'll do even better than most think. Simply because Trump has peaked, has absolutely no front team or ground game in either state worth a shit, Rubio, despite claims he's a threat, has statistically flat-lined since the day he entered the race, and Carson has matched pace with Cruz in the polls, as Cruz rose, Carson fell equally as far in polling.

No, I think Ted will shock most election junkies. The sky is the limit for this guy.
He may not be perfect, but he's hands down the best in the field.

Absolutely!!   :thumbsup:

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Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Absolutely!!   :thumbsup:
That to me is the key, his competition consists of a fraud lib pretending to be a Conservative, a RINO trying to pretend aligning with libs never happened, a doctor that has zero experience outside the hospital, oh, and I guess if you want to throw a bone to Jeb, a guy completely out of touch with the nation, hasn't a snowflakes chance...

In truth, Cruz will metaphorically slaughter each and everyone of these guys, simply because he refuses to pander to the left, something each and everyone of the other candidates has done.
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
That to me is the key, his competition consists of a fraud lib pretending to be a Conservative, a RINO trying to pretend aligning with libs never happened, a doctor that has zero experience outside the hospital, oh, and I guess if you want to throw a bone to Jeb, a guy completely out of touch with the nation, hasn't a snowflakes chance...

In truth, Cruz will metaphorically slaughter each and everyone of these guys, simply because he refuses to pander to the left, something each and everyone of the other candidates has done.

I totally agree with that!  Staying principled and consistently conservative on all the issues is truly the key to winning this time around.  Only Cruz has done that.  No flip flops, no faux pas, and attacking no other GOP candidate!  Superb.

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Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 01:45:42 PM
I totally agree with that!  Staying principled and consistently conservative on all the issues is truly the key to winning this time around.  Only Cruz has done that.  No flip flops, no faux pas, and attacking no other GOP candidate!  Superb.
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no politician seemed bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no candidate seems bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:

Maybe God has blinded the other candidates to this reality!  He has been known to do things like that!!   :biggrin:

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Quote from: kroz on November 29, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
Maybe God has blinded the other candidates to this reality!  He has been known to do things like that!!   :biggrin:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
It really would be easy, considering they already live in a bubble surrounded by yes men.
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Quote from: Solar on November 29, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
Ya know what baffles me? Even an idiot could see that running hard Right was a guaranteed win, yet no politician seemed bright enough to figure this out.
Cruz knew it, but truth is, it was never a secret formula. But Cruz definitely perfected the formula down to an virtual art. :thumbsup:

GOPe are not fast learners.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 30, 2015, 04:13:52 AM
GOPe are not fast learners.
:lol:
Commie tools were never chosen for their ability to think as individuals.
Boner is a perfect example of leftist tool. Look at pics of the guy when he first ran for office, same puppy dog eyes that even granny would trust, a reassuring voice of confidence, disguising a psychopaths mind that has only his own best interests at heart, as evidenced by his tenure in office, in selling out Americans on behalf of his handlers.

He's the poster child RINO, epitome of evil, right next to McCONnel.
I hate using the term RINO, because it's been decades since the party espoused Republican tenets, if ever, really.
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Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Exactly why I chose it, I see Colorado as reflective of most of the US.
What I managed to glean from all of this and other polls, is Trump's negatives hold him back, as well as Carson's which only bares well for Cruz whom has yet to slide back in any polling, signifying his base is not only solid, but growing steadily.

Rubio on the other hand? Well no matter how they spin it, it comes down to a battle between him and Cruz in the end, and we know how that's going top play out. :lol:
Rubio at best, after Trump and Carson bow out, will have, if he's lucky 20%  support, while Cruz carries the lions share.
It's not Solar. Ohio's ass backwards anymore. So I wouldn't go by polling in any other state, to indicate who's going to get the electorals from Ohio.
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