I don't think so.

They have devolved to a violent, regressive, Muslim State.

I cringe to think America is committed to defend them.

No.  Their President is a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer, if he isn't one of them.

Not now, no.

Quote from: SalemCat on November 18, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
I don't think so.

They have devolved to a violent, regressive, Muslim State.

I cringe to think America is committed to defend them.

The Illegitimate One's nuclear deal would commit America to defend IRAN against Israel!

About defending Turkey, it's not about protecting Turkey, it's about containing Russia.

The old joke actually is coming true!  Hungary should gobble up Turkey!  Problem solved!

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 18, 2015, 08:51:09 PM
Not now, no.

Agreed.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 18, 2015, 08:51:09 PM
Not now, no.

NEVER !!!!

The Ottoman Empire will rise again and you do NOT want that! 

Putting Turkey in the EU will facilitate that and put it on the fast track.   

You cannot get any more "crawling in bed with the enemy" than that!   

Turkey only joined NATO to keep its ass off the USSR's dinner plate. The Soviets grabbed most of Iran and set it's sights on Turkey, looking for that warm water port.....

This new guy is Muslim Brotherhood...... I say boot them out

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 20, 2015, 06:01:11 AM
Turkey only joined NATO to keep its ass off the USSR's dinner plate. The Soviets grabbed most of Iran and set it's sights on Turkey, looking for that warm water port.....

This new guy is Muslim Brotherhood...... I say boot them out

Turkey is the gateway for the Muslim migrant invasion. Kick them out, who are they going to ally with - Russia?

Quote from: mdgiles on November 20, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
Turkey is the gateway for the Muslim migrant invasion. Kick them out, who are they going to ally with - Russia?

We should reflect on why NATO invited Turkey in. They are natural and long time enemies with Russia and this made sense during the cold war. I don't think that hatchet has been buried so I respectfully disagree they would seek out Russia. I believe they are more aligned now under current direction with radical Islam.

Quote from: mdgiles on November 20, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
Turkey is the gateway for the Muslim migrant invasion. Kick them out, who are they going to ally with - Russia?

THey might, There might be some sort of deal involving a pipeline thru Turkey, more money to buy weapons and Putin would be eager to sell 'em to raise cash for his struggling economy.

Yes, they are aligned with Islam in it's most radical form.  Erdogan once said, "There is no moderate Islam.  There is no radical Islam.  There is only Islam.  Ataturk who once was one of their heroes, doubtful now, enforced a secular government and did away with requiring women to cover their heads, polygamy and other repressive Islamic restrictions.  Erdogan's goal is to bring back Islam as it was practiced during the Ottoman Empire and his wish is to reestablish the Ottoman Empire and to regain the parts of Europe, i.e. Spain which had been conquered by Islam.  They were stopped and forced back at the gates of Vienna but they have not given up the dream of conquest. 

They have no business whatsoever in NATO.

Quote from: Charliemyboy on November 20, 2015, 03:50:52 PM
Yes, they are aligned with Islam in it's most radical form.  Erdogan once said, "There is no moderate Islam.  There is no radical Islam.  There is only Islam.  Ataturk who once was one of their heroes, doubtful now, enforced a secular government and did away with requiring women to cover their heads, polygamy and other repressive Islamic restrictions.  Erdogan's goal is to bring back Islam as it was practiced during the Ottoman Empire and his wish is to reestablish the Ottoman Empire and to regain the parts of Europe, i.e. Spain which had been conquered by Islam.  They were stopped and forced back at the gates of Vienna but they have not given up the dream of conquest. 

They have no business whatsoever in NATO.

Oh his true alliance is with the MB, but in the mean time he will use the best means necessary to arm and equip his minions, Russia is the strongest in Europe, makes sense, of course when the time comes he'll turn like a rabid dog on them. This flood of invaders thru Europe shows a slightly different strategy, they know they can't do it with the sword (or nowadays gun) so they are gonna do it with their penises'. They are going to take over Europe by means of interbreeding and population. Turkey is facilitating this, it might even be funding these people.

That Strategy was used successfully throughout History by my Celtic ancestors, Vikings, the Romans and the Huns and Mongols (who if I remember correctly conquered some of Turkey).

Quote from: SalemCat on November 18, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
I don't think so.

They have devolved to a violent, regressive, Muslim State.

I cringe to think America is committed to defend them.

The real question is should we, the USA, be in NATO?

Quote from: Shooterman on November 21, 2015, 09:42:27 AM
The real question is should we, the USA, be in NATO?

Better yet! Should the UN be in the USA?

Quote from: quiller on November 21, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Better yet! Should the UN be in the USA?

No!  All of these worthless international organizations are a waste of money and detrimental to our own Country. We ALWAYS end up as the loser,  villain, and sugar daddy to third world dictators.