What is Europe left to do with refugees?

Started by ReadyToShoot, September 08, 2015, 06:34:07 AM

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ReadyToShoot

http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/as-thousands-of-refugees-flock-to-germany-for-a-new-life-man#.ua69Rark9

It has never been a secret that the Syrian refugee crisis is at the high alert right now. These poor people need hope, so they flee.
But Europe has softened the entering rules for the refugees about 15 years ago, so now there are more Moroccans in Brussels than in Marrakesh.
Now after the UN declared there in no money for Syrian refugees in the camps, the poor people decided to flee. But There is NO place for them in Europe. At the same time the rich Arab nations don't WANT them in, cause they can increase the criminal rates.
What are all them left to do?

Solar

This issue is no different than our own border mess. Close it, and send their asses back home!


Orban: People entering EU are 'immigrants, not refugees'
Hungary's Prime Minister has insisted that the migrants entering Europe are "immigrants", not refugees.
Viktor Orban said the migrants entering Hungary were 'immigrants', not refugees
Viktor Orban said the migrants entering Hungary were 'immigrants', not refugees Credit: Reuters
Speaking to Hungarian diplomats in Budapest, Viktor Orban said the European Union should provide financial support to Turkey and other non-member states to help deal with the flow of people from parts of the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

He also defended the use of a fence along the country's border with Serbia, arguing that it was a "primary interest" of the EU that Hungary should be able to protect its border.
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Dori

Assad has killed over 300,000 of his own people, including using chemical warfare, (remember Obama's red lines?)

ISIS has killed and displaced millions of Syrians.  There are other terrorist groups like al Qaeda in the fray, killing people. 

Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's.  They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.

I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants. 
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

red_dirt

Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's.  They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.
I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants.

I agree, completely.
It has been orchestrated.
The saddest thing is the goal is infiltration.

redbeard

Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Assad has killed over 300,000 of his own people, including using chemical warfare, (remember Obama's red lines?)

ISIS has killed and displaced millions of Syrians.  There are other terrorist groups like al Qaeda in the fray, killing people. 

Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's.  They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.

I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants.
That is the estimate of the total killed in Syria! Assad is responsible a lot of the but so aren't the rebels and ISIS!

Dori

Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
That is the estimate of the total killed in Syria! Assad is responsible a lot of the but so aren't the rebels and ISIS!

Yes, that's what I said.  They've also displaced millions inside of Iraq. 

We've seen refugees flee war for centuries.  The only way to stop the current crisis is to destroy ISIS, but no one wants to do that.

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

redbeard

Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 09:16:57 AM
Yes, that's what I said.  They've also displaced millions inside of Iraq. 

We've seen refugees flee war for centuries.  The only way to stop the current crisis is to destroy ISIS, but no one wants to do that.
Did you see the report of Russian forces building in Syria? Is Putin getting ready to do what the world hasn't? With Russia involved Assad will not be removed but a fair chance they will go after ISIS. Will we work with Russia in the collation Even if it means Assad staying in power?

Dori

Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 09:34:06 AM
Did you see the report of Russian forces building in Syria? Is Putin getting ready to do what the world hasn't? With Russia involved Assad will not be removed but a fair chance they will go after ISIS. Will we work with Russia in the collation Even if it means Assad staying in power?

I don't trust Putin. He's in bed with Assad and the Iranians and loves to instigate. 
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

redbeard

Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 09:49:37 AM
I don't trust Putin. He's in bed with Assad and the Iranians and loves to instigate.
A lot of his Muslim enemies from his region have gone to join ISIS. He may have reason to take them out! If you could get rid of just one side in that war which would it be? ISIS or Assad? Who is a bigger threat to the United States?

Dori

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Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 10:37:00 AM
A lot of his Muslim enemies from his region have gone to join ISIS. He may have reason to take them out! If you could get rid of just one side in that war which would it be? ISIS or Assad? Who is a bigger threat to the United States?

ISIS is Obama's fault.  It was Iraq al Qaeda to start with, and has morphed into ISIS, wanting to form a caliphate just like the one that formed right after Mohammed died.  It's leader is al Baghdadi.  He was mastermind of many terrorist plots inside of Iraq.  ISIS didn't expand into Syria to any degree until 2012/2013. 

If anyone is to blame for the formation of ISIS, it's us.  It's also our responsibility to dismantle this group, which we could have done in a few days of serious bombing, but no, our Coward In Chief has decided to let them get a foot hold in the region, which we are going to pay dearly for some day.

All those millions of displaced people out there know exactly how this group got started, and who was responsible.  I seriously doubt they'll forget, anymore than those who lost family or were displaced by Hitler. 
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

Bluetick

You would have to have a heart of stone to feel no pity for these people. At the same time, just because they have been victimized by their muslim co-religionists doesn't mean they don't despise Jews and Christians.  And just because they have been victimized doesn't mean they are compatible with Europeans. They will wreak havoc and Europe will come to regret this. Mark my words.


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supsalemgr

Quote from: Bluetick on September 08, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
You would have to have a heart of stone to feel no pity for these people. At the same time, just because they have been victimized by their muslim co-religionists doesn't mean they don't despise Jews and Christians.  And just because they have been victimized doesn't mean they are compatible with Europeans. They will wreak havoc and Europe will come to regret this. Mark my words.

I ask the same question as Rush was asking today. Why hasn't the oil rich ME countries stepped up to take care of their own Muslim brothers and sisters?
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

red_dirt

Because, according to General Mihail Pacepa, Andropov's master plan was to
flood Western Europe and the Americas with Moslems, with the goal of destroying
the West as we have known it.

carlb

The Turd World hates the Christian West.

Yet that's where they always flee.  Germany is for GERMANS. England is for ENGLISH.

SYRIANS BELONG IN SYRIA. Muslims belong in Muslim countries.

They made their mess, THEY must clean up their messes.

They are really COLONIZING the West. I have sympathy for MY PWOPLE, not those who want to transform my countries.