http://www.buzzfeed.com/husseinkesvani/as-thousands-of-refugees-flock-to-germany-for-a-new-life-man#.ua69Rark9
It has never been a secret that the Syrian refugee crisis is at the high alert right now. These poor people need hope, so they flee.
But Europe has softened the entering rules for the refugees about 15 years ago, so now there are more Moroccans in Brussels than in Marrakesh.
Now after the UN declared there in no money for Syrian refugees in the camps, the poor people decided to flee. But There is NO place for them in Europe. At the same time the rich Arab nations don't WANT them in, cause they can increase the criminal rates.
What are all them left to do?
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This issue is no different than our own border mess. Close it, and send their asses back home!
Orban: People entering EU are 'immigrants, not refugees'
Hungary's Prime Minister has insisted that the migrants entering Europe are "immigrants", not refugees.
Viktor Orban said the migrants entering Hungary were 'immigrants', not refugees
Viktor Orban said the migrants entering Hungary were 'immigrants', not refugees Credit: Reuters
Speaking to Hungarian diplomats in Budapest, Viktor Orban said the European Union should provide financial support to Turkey and other non-member states to help deal with the flow of people from parts of the Middle East, Africa and Asia.
He also defended the use of a fence along the country's border with Serbia, arguing that it was a "primary interest" of the EU that Hungary should be able to protect its border.
Last updated Tue 8 Sep 2015
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-09-07/orban-people-entering-eu-are-immigrants-not-refugees/
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/08/60-muslim-men-raped-one-12-year-old-schoolgirl-but-only-six-have-been-jailed-so-far/
Assad has killed over 300,000 of his own people, including using chemical warfare, (remember Obama's red lines?)
ISIS has killed and displaced millions of Syrians. There are other terrorist groups like al Qaeda in the fray, killing people.
Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's. They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.
I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants.
Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's. They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.
I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants.
I agree, completely.
It has been orchestrated.
The saddest thing is the goal is infiltration.
Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
Assad has killed over 300,000 of his own people, including using chemical warfare, (remember Obama's red lines?)
ISIS has killed and displaced millions of Syrians. There are other terrorist groups like al Qaeda in the fray, killing people.
Over 2 million have landed on Turkey's border, and over a million on Lebanon's border, and one and a half million on Jordan's. They are fleeing the violence inside Syria.
I seriously doubt these people are going to Europe as immigrants.
That is the estimate of the total killed in Syria! Assad is responsible a lot of the but so aren't the rebels and ISIS!
Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
That is the estimate of the total killed in Syria! Assad is responsible a lot of the but so aren't the rebels and ISIS!
Yes, that's what I said. They've also displaced millions inside of Iraq.
We've seen refugees flee war for centuries. The only way to stop the current crisis is to destroy ISIS, but no one wants to do that.
Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 09:16:57 AM
Yes, that's what I said. They've also displaced millions inside of Iraq.
We've seen refugees flee war for centuries. The only way to stop the current crisis is to destroy ISIS, but no one wants to do that.
Did you see the report of Russian forces building in Syria? Is Putin getting ready to do what the world hasn't? With Russia involved Assad will not be removed but a fair chance they will go after ISIS. Will we work with Russia in the collation Even if it means Assad staying in power?
Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 09:34:06 AM
Did you see the report of Russian forces building in Syria? Is Putin getting ready to do what the world hasn't? With Russia involved Assad will not be removed but a fair chance they will go after ISIS. Will we work with Russia in the collation Even if it means Assad staying in power?
I don't trust Putin. He's in bed with Assad and the Iranians and loves to instigate.
Quote from: Dori on September 08, 2015, 09:49:37 AM
I don't trust Putin. He's in bed with Assad and the Iranians and loves to instigate.
A lot of his Muslim enemies from his region have gone to join ISIS. He may have reason to take them out! If you could get rid of just one side in that war which would it be? ISIS or Assad? Who is a bigger threat to the United States?
Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 10:37:00 AM
A lot of his Muslim enemies from his region have gone to join ISIS. He may have reason to take them out! If you could get rid of just one side in that war which would it be? ISIS or Assad? Who is a bigger threat to the United States?
ISIS is Obama's fault. It was Iraq al Qaeda to start with, and has morphed into ISIS, wanting to form a caliphate just like the one that formed right after Mohammed died. It's leader is al Baghdadi. He was mastermind of many terrorist plots inside of Iraq. ISIS didn't expand into Syria to any degree until 2012/2013.
If anyone is to blame for the formation of ISIS, it's us. It's also our responsibility to dismantle this group, which we could have done in a few days of serious bombing, but no, our Coward In Chief has decided to let them get a foot hold in the region, which we are going to pay dearly for some day.
All those millions of displaced people out there know exactly how this group got started, and who was responsible. I seriously doubt they'll forget, anymore than those who lost family or were displaced by Hitler.
You would have to have a heart of stone to feel no pity for these people. At the same time, just because they have been victimized by their muslim co-religionists doesn't mean they don't despise Jews and Christians. And just because they have been victimized doesn't mean they are compatible with Europeans. They will wreak havoc and Europe will come to regret this. Mark my words.
Quote from: Bluetick on September 08, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
You would have to have a heart of stone to feel no pity for these people. At the same time, just because they have been victimized by their muslim co-religionists doesn't mean they don't despise Jews and Christians. And just because they have been victimized doesn't mean they are compatible with Europeans. They will wreak havoc and Europe will come to regret this. Mark my words.
I ask the same question as Rush was asking today. Why hasn't the oil rich ME countries stepped up to take care of their own Muslim brothers and sisters?
Because, according to General Mihail Pacepa, Andropov's master plan was to
flood Western Europe and the Americas with Moslems, with the goal of destroying
the West as we have known it.
The Turd World hates the Christian West.
Yet that's where they always flee. Germany is for GERMANS. England is for ENGLISH.
SYRIANS BELONG IN SYRIA. Muslims belong in Muslim countries.
They made their mess, THEY must clean up their messes.
They are really COLONIZING the West. I have sympathy for MY PWOPLE, not those who want to transform my countries.
Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 09:34:06 AM
Did you see the report of Russian forces building in Syria? Is Putin getting ready to do what the world hasn't? With Russia involved Assad will not be removed but a fair chance they will go after ISIS. Will we work with Russia in the collation Even if it means Assad staying in power?
Putin knows these ISIS loons are a threat to the Oil that flows from Iraq and Iran into his country....I'm surprised he hasn;t taken them out already.
Here are your "refugees"
QuoteMuslim "refugees" in Budapest chanted "Allahu Akbar" and "f**k you" while others in Italy attacked an old lady and threw feces at bystanders as Germany announced that it would be prepared to take 500,000 asylum seekers every year.
Although mainstream media coverage of the migrant crisis has focused on happy families and children, footage not broadcast by TV networks shows a different side to some of those crossing into Europe.
A video shot just outside Budapest's Keleti railway station shows Muslim migrants chanting "Allahu Akbar" and "f**k you" as they engage in running battles with police
http://www.infowars.com/muslim-refugees-chant-allahu-akbar-fk-you-attack-citizens-throw-feces/
Go and watch the video. Europe will turn on their "guests" or they will die
As the Hungarians are no doubt saying to the Dutch, " 'n groot, vet ek het jou gese."
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-syrian-refugee-crisis-is-not-our.html?pfstyle=wp (http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-syrian-refugee-crisis-is-not-our.html?pfstyle=wp)
http://traffic.libsyn.com/batchelorshow/JBS_2015_09_08BB.mp3
Nation contributing editor Stephen F. Cohen and John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions of the new US-Russian cold war. Heading this installment is the Obama administration's vehement opposition to Moscow's suggestion that it might deploy Russian air power to Syria against ISIS forces. Cohen argues that this is due to a number of irrational positions in Washington: the new American cold-war reflex of seeing every Russian proposal in a negative light; the Obama administration's determination to fight a two-fight war in Syria—against ISIS and against Syrian President Assad, whom Moscow supports; and an unwillingness to consider Russian President Putin's longstanding argument that the US policy of regime change in the Middle East invariably worsens conditions there, as already evidenced by events in Iraq, Egypt, and Libya. Other subjects discussed include the evolving Russian-Chinese strategic alliance as symbolized by Putin's appearance in Beijing to mark the 70th anniversary of China's defeat of Japan in WW II; French President Hollande's proposals for ending economic sanctions against Russia; and Russia's humanitarian treatment of refugees from Ukraine in contrast to Europe's handling of its refugee crisis.
Well I knew this was going to happen, Idiot Kerry is 'negotiating' as to how many of these 'refugee's " the USA will take.
Quote from: kalash on September 09, 2015, 02:15:36 PM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/batchelorshow/JBS_2015_09_08BB.mp3
Nation contributing editor Stephen F. Cohen and John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions of the new US-Russian cold war. Heading this installment is the Obama administration's vehement opposition to Moscow's suggestion that it might deploy Russian air power to Syria against ISIS forces. Cohen argues that this is due to a number of irrational positions in Washington: the new American cold-war reflex of seeing every Russian proposal in a negative light; the Obama administration's determination to fight a two-fight war in Syria—against ISIS and against Syrian President Assad, whom Moscow supports; and an unwillingness to consider Russian President Putin's longstanding argument that the US policy of regime change in the Middle East invariably worsens conditions there, as already evidenced by events in Iraq, Egypt, and Libya. Other subjects discussed include the evolving Russian-Chinese strategic alliance as symbolized by Putin's appearance in Beijing to mark the 70th anniversary of China's defeat of Japan in WW II; French President Hollande's proposals for ending economic sanctions against Russia; and Russia's humanitarian treatment of refugees from Ukraine in contrast to Europe's handling of its refugee crisis.
Please understand Obama is not America. He hates America and what it stands for. I think most of us agree that Russia and America should be aligned to defeat ISIS and all of radical Islam. However, our current leadership is aligned with the Islamists.
Quote from: kalash on September 09, 2015, 02:15:36 PM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/batchelorshow/JBS_2015_09_08BB.mp3
Nation contributing editor Stephen F. Cohen and John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions of the new US-Russian cold war. Heading this installment is the Obama administration's vehement opposition to Moscow's suggestion that it might deploy Russian air power to Syria against ISIS forces. Cohen argues that this is due to a number of irrational positions in Washington: the new American cold-war reflex of seeing every Russian proposal in a negative light; the Obama administration's determination to fight a two-fight war in Syria—against ISIS and against Syrian President Assad, whom Moscow supports; and an unwillingness to consider Russian President Putin's longstanding argument that the US policy of regime change in the Middle East invariably worsens conditions there, as already evidenced by events in Iraq, Egypt, and Libya. Other subjects discussed include the evolving Russian-Chinese strategic alliance as symbolized by Putin's appearance in Beijing to mark the 70th anniversary of China's defeat of Japan in WW II; French President Hollande's proposals for ending economic sanctions against Russia; and Russia's humanitarian treatment of refugees from Ukraine in contrast to Europe's handling of its refugee crisis.
Putin is playing the Russian people, and doing a damn good job of it.
He and Americans have much in common, we all think the Marxist leader in the WH is a spineless idiot child that deserves humiliation on the world stage.
But don't think for a moment that this punk represents America or her best interests, he does not.
Once we toss this ass hole out of office, watch how suddenly the world economy begins to stabilize, relations between bickering nations are quelled, trade increases, and the M/E is put on notice.
Yes, all this bull shit going on around the world is due to lack of American leadership.
That's right, like it or not, the US is THE stabilizing force in the world, not China or Russia.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2015, 05:18:33 AM
Putin is playing the Russian people, and doing a damn good job of it.
He and Americans have much in common, we all think the Marxist leader in the WH is a spineless idiot child that deserves humiliation on the world stage.
But don't think for a moment that this punk represents America or her best interests, he does not.
Once we toss this ass hole out of office, watch how suddenly the world economy begins to stabilize, relations between bickering nations are quelled, trade increases, and the M/E is put on notice.
Yes, all this bull shit going on around the world is due to lack of American leadership.
That's right, like it or not, the US is THE stabilizing force in the world, not China or Russia.
Couldn't have said it better myself! :wink:
Quote from: kroz on September 10, 2015, 05:22:12 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself! :wink:
Thanks. Only a blind, deaf moron would need this explained to them, or a Russian kid falling for the pride of Nationalism as a willful tool. It's this willful ignorance that starts wars.
I swear, this idiot better wake up soon, or he'll find himself fighting for a false cause and wasting his life for a lie.
The discussion should not be between the householders and the guests.
The country belongs to the householders. They should be the ones to decide.
Europe just starting to recognize the existence of "domestic extremists."
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/10/uk-terrorism-stats-97-are-muslim-majority-of-domestic-extremists-are-christian/
Quote from: red_dirt on September 10, 2015, 06:14:50 AM
The discussion should not be between the householders and the guests.
The country belongs to the householders. They should be the ones to decide.
Europe just starting to recognize the existence of "domestic extremists."
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/10/uk-terrorism-stats-97-are-muslim-majority-of-domestic-extremists-are-christian/
Go figure. (UK)! :huh:
There is no cure for stupid!! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on September 09, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
Well I knew this was going to happen, Idiot Kerry is 'negotiating' as to how many of these 'refugee's " the USA will take.
Hasn't the rise of Trump taught the politicos anything? Right now America isn't welcoming
ANYBODY! Especially Muslims!
Quote from: mdgiles on September 10, 2015, 07:01:50 AM
Hasn't the rise of Trump taught the politicos anything? Right now America isn't welcoming ANYBODY! Especially Muslims!
G'day, squire. America may not be welcoming to immigrants, but in point of fact we will lose population if we do not admit QUALIFIED immigrants, who have something to offer to their new homeland --- immigrants like ours who waited in line and swore the same oath of citizenship and then went on to make us the greatest nation on Earth.
Japan and parts of Europe are also facing population shortages just to fill the jobs available. In our case our educational system is so poor that we can easily find smarter, better-schooled immigrants --- provided they wait in line (et cetera and et al.).
I have nothing against the law-abiders, but to read the lamestream press, it's all the felons no other countries want so they dump those trash on us. To read the LSM it's not our fault we did not get busy and create a next generation large-enough where outside help ain't needed.
Who said we're sex-obsessed if we can't produce our successors?
Quote from: Bluetick on September 08, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
You would have to have a heart of stone to feel no pity for these people. At the same time, just because they have been victimized by their muslim co-religionists doesn't mean they don't despise Jews and Christians. And just because they have been victimized doesn't mean they are compatible with Europeans. They will wreak havoc and Europe will come to regret this. Mark my words.
I agree with your assessment. I feel sorry for the children, but this is primarily an invasion by young military age Muslim men. They will take over Europe for Allah.