What is Biden waiting for?

Started by ReadyToShoot, September 04, 2015, 04:54:32 AM

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Solar

Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.
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Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.

Yes.   :thumbsup:

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Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.
Depends on if he negotiated the final wording! The art of the deal!! :lol: :lol:

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Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.

It might be more than that. The GOP may have realized Jebbers isn't the man but he has the money to continue on. They may see Trump as the guy to latch on to because Trump seems to be able to tackle issues the GOP usually loses like immigration.
The last thing they want is a Cruz and they may see Trump as that barrier.

Solar

Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Depends on if he negotiated the final wording! The art of the deal!! :lol: :lol:
Then he should have chosen his words more wisely, and not have proclaimed he wouldn't sign it.
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Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 06, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
It might be more than that. The GOP may have realized Jebbers isn't the man but he has the money to continue on. They may see Trump as the guy to latch on to because Trump seems to be able to tackle issues the GOP usually loses like immigration.
The last thing they want is a Cruz and they may see Trump as that barrier.
The GOP lose on immigration, because they side with the Dims, and against the base.
They've never been against flooding the nation with cheap labor, ever.
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Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!

Well, now that does shine a different light on it.   Devil's in the details.

Now, Bush is apparently everything a good democrat thinks a good republican ought to be.
I think the converse may also be true with respect to Joe Biden and republicans.
Push comes to shove, the congressional republicans have shown they have successfully caucused with the democrats to counter the Cruz effect, should Cruz go all the way.
In the same sense, the two parties have cooperated to effect the Obama agenda.

I still think the Boehner Bush game plan is to continue the media assault on Trump. At a certain point, they will offer voters a choice between Bush or Carson, not counting Cruz out.


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Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 09:35:03 PM
Well, now that does shine a different light on it.   Devil's in the details.

Now, Bush is apparently everything a good democrat thinks a good republican ought to be.
I think the converse may also be true with respect to Joe Biden and republicans.
Push comes to shove, the congressional republicans have shown they have successfully caucused with the democrats to counter the Cruz effect, should Cruz go all the way.
In the same sense, the two parties have cooperated to effect the Obama agenda.

I still think the Boehner Bush game plan is to continue the media assault on Trump. At a certain point, they will offer voters a choice between Bush or Carson, not counting Cruz out.
Why do you people think the media is assaulting Trump? Hell, who do you think is giving the guy the credibility he's garnered this time around?
You want media assault? Ask Palin what an onslaught from both party's looks like.

Fact is, without the media echoing Trump's every word, he'd be nothing more than a Rubio or Christy.
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Back to Biden and the DIMs for a moment...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/2/monica-crowley-the-clinton-scheme-to-counterattack/

I think the mainstream media is trying to steer attention away from the frackas in the Democratic party.

"The Clintons have never taken a political hit lying down. But given their weak and panicky reactions to Mr. Obama's current, well-orchestrated hit on her — the FBI investigation into her alleged mishandling of classified material as secretary of state — they have appeared to passively absorb the escalating attack. Until now.

As he presses his attack, Mrs. Clinton has two choices. Option one: fold early and negotiate a mild end to the investigation in exchange for dropping out of the race. But Mr. Obama is not a forgiving sort, and now that he's drawn blood, he's likely to go for the kill.

That suggests that the Clintons are going with option two: fight him — as part of an elaborate, unspoken negotiation between them over their secrets and futures. That requires a plausible defense. Their go-to strategy has always been to blame others, or inanimate objects such as documents, servers, "processes" — and to designate a fall guy (or gal) to take the rap.

This is the well-worn path they now appear to be pursuing to try to escape Mr. Obama's ever-tightening political and legal vise.

According to a well-placed source, the four known documents at the center of the FBI investigation are deeply problematic. (They came from a relatively small sample; with each new email dump, there are more questionable documents.) Some of the documents appear to have had no original classification markings."


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THIS is what Biden is waiting for - a clear path to the nomination.
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redbeard

Biden is getting free attention. This is right out of Trumps play book! Why announce at this time and become a target while all the news on him to this point is positive! The smart move is what he is doing sitting back watching Hillary implode. When he enters he will just have to sweep away the socialist!
If he gets in it will have to be soon to put together his ground game, but if I was him I would delay as long as possible!

supsalemgr

Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Biden is getting free attention. This is right out of Trumps play book! Why announce at this time and become a target while all the news on him to this point is positive! The smart move is what he is doing sitting back watching Hillary implode. When he enters he will just have to sweep away the socialist!
If he gets in it will have to be soon to put together his ground game, but if I was him I would delay as long as possible!

If he waits there would be a lot of Hillary's people available.  :lol:

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kroz

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 07, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
If he waits there would be a lot of Hillary's people available.  :lol:

They would probably jump ship right now!!  They see the train wreck ahead.   :laugh: