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Title: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: ReadyToShoot on September 04, 2015, 04:54:32 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/04/i-just-dont-know-biden-still-undecided-on-presidential-run
Could anybody explain to me what stops the vice-president Joe Biden from nominating himself to the presidential election 2016?
He got the blessing from his mentor, Obama (is it still mentor if he is younger?), so we can be sure that he'll find the money for the campaign?
Anyway it's hard to believe that Biden could be our next president, cause the front runners are already in the race.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 04, 2015, 06:25:41 AM
Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?
Look at the big picture. No one in the Dim party thinks they have a snow flakes chance in Hell of winning, so the bigger question is why would anyone want to run?
Bottom line is Hitlery will be the nominee despite the corruption, she's the only one qualified,
Biden was chosen as VP because of his willingness to be a Toady, his incompetence, he is never a threat to the Marxist.

In the end, it's all about power, and the left, liberals as individuals willingly accept corruption as part of the equation because they see life through a lens of corruption themselves.
Point is, Hitlery will lose, obviously, and as has been staged by the party, she will be the fall guy for blame of their failure to capture the WH.

You see, the party needs a scapegoat for the Marxist and his Muscum/communist policy pursuits, so instead of the real perp getting the blame, everyone will focus on Hitlery and her failures as the reason for the party's inevitable demise.

Though I have no idea what her prize is in the end, there's a reason she is staying in, and obviously it's one serious reward.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Hoofer on September 04, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2015, 06:25:41 AM
Look at the big picture. No one in the Dim party thinks they have a snow flakes chance in Hell of winning, so the bigger question is why would anyone want to run?
Bottom line is Hitlery will be the nominee despite the corruption, she's the only one qualified,
....
Though I have no idea what her prize is in the end, there's a reason she is staying in, and obviously it's one serious reward.

Put out a sacrificial lamb, the numbers are so bad.  Let her fail, and sweep her out of the way for the next election cycle. 
It's also the chance for the "lucky shot" that hits the mark.   If by sheer luck, she wins, OMG!   They just hit the jackpot!

I think... from her perspective,  :scared: the fear of losing and not fulfilling whatever back room deals,  :sneaky: the stuff of the Clinton Crime Foundation was paid for...    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  high drama!  If her numbers keep going down, boy... is this gonna get UGLY!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: walkstall on September 04, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: kj4adn on September 04, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
Put out a sacrificial lamb, the numbers are so bad.  Let her fail, and sweep her out of the way for the next election cycle. 
It's also the chance for the "lucky shot" that hits the mark.   If by sheer luck, she wins, OMG!   They just hit the jackpot!

I think... from her perspective,  :scared: the fear of losing and not fulfilling whatever back room deals,  :sneaky: the stuff of the Clinton Crime Foundation was paid for...    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  high drama!  If her numbers keep going down, boy... is this gonna get UGLY!  :thumbsup:

It is nice to see Hillary pulling down the Clinton Legacy, one scandal at a time. 
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: tac on September 04, 2015, 08:11:28 AM
Quote
Solar wrote:

Though I have no idea what her prize is in the end, there's a reason she is staying in, and obviously it's one serious reward.

That is the $64,000 question, what does she get for being the sacrificial lamb? Money? Nah she has millions. Not a political office - she's had that and she's running for the highest in the land. The only thing that I can figure is that a deal is in the making to keep her out of prison! Then there's always the scenario that the `rats are stupid enough to believe she might win the WH! Our perspective of her is not the same as the left. While hr support might be slipping, she is the best the left has right now and the possibility does exist that she might win. If she can carry the blue states that Obozo carried, she's in -  if she can win the nomination.

The left coast, NE, NY,IL,IN,OH,FL,Carolinas, NV,NM,CO, and a few others will give her the 270 she needs. All of these states voted for Obozo in 2012.

Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: kroz on September 04, 2015, 08:39:10 AM
Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 08:11:28 AM

The left coast, NE, NY,IL,IN,OH,FL,Carolinas, NV,NM,CO, and a few others will give her the 270 she needs. All of these states voted for Obozo in 2012.

And most if not all of those States are totally disillusioned with Obozo!!

Time does change people's opinions.

I don't see any Dim rallying the Obozo minions.  The bloom is off the rose!   :laugh:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Possum on September 04, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: kj4adn on September 04, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
Put out a sacrificial lamb, the numbers are so bad.  Let her fail, and sweep her out of the way for the next election cycle. 
It's also the chance for the "lucky shot" that hits the mark.   If by sheer luck, she wins, OMG!   They just hit the jackpot!

I think... from her perspective,  :scared: the fear of losing and not fulfilling whatever back room deals,  :sneaky: the stuff of the Clinton Crime Foundation was paid for...    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  high drama!  If her numbers keep going down, boy... is this gonna get UGLY!  :thumbsup:
Guessing here its the backroom deals keeping her in. Nobody paid hellery or bill millions just to hear them talk. Those who paid are expecting favors only the president can deliver. Wonder what the penalty is for non payment?
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: kroz on September 04, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: s3779m on September 04, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Guessing here its the backroom deals keeping her in. Nobody paid hellery or bill millions just to hear them talk. Those who paid are expecting favors only the president can deliver. Wonder what the penalty is for non payment?

  :scared:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: supsalemgr on September 04, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 04, 2015, 06:25:41 AM
Look at the big picture. No one in the Dim party thinks they have a snow flakes chance in Hell of winning, so the bigger question is why would anyone want to run?
Bottom line is Hitlery will be the nominee despite the corruption, she's the only one qualified,
Biden was chosen as VP because of his willingness to be a Toady, his incompetence, he is never a threat to the Marxist.

In the end, it's all about power, and the left, liberals as individuals willingly accept corruption as part of the equation because they see life through a lens of corruption themselves.
Point is, Hitlery will lose, obviously, and as has been staged by the party, she will be the fall guy for blame of their failure to capture the WH.

You see, the party needs a scapegoat for the Marxist and his Muscum/communist policy pursuits, so instead of the real perp getting the blame, everyone will focus on Hitlery and her failures as the reason for the party's inevitable demise.

Though I have no idea what her prize is in the end, there's a reason she is staying in, and obviously it's one serious reward.

I am going to take Joe at his word that he doesn't know if he has it in him to take this on. Now, the reason is a different matter. Is it because of what he speaks or realizes he would have his ass handed to him in the general?
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: walkstall on September 04, 2015, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 04, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
I am going to take Joe at his word that he doesn't know if he has it in him to take this on. Now, the reason is a different matter. Is it because of what he speaks or realizes he would have his ass handed to him in the general?

He may be using this for free air time like Trump.  If he doesn't get enough hell ya!  Then he will not run. 
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 04, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 04, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
I am going to take Joe at his word that he doesn't know if he has it in him to take this on. Now, the reason is a different matter. Is it because of what he speaks or realizes he would have his ass handed to him in the general?
It's normal for Pols to float balloons to see how they do. In Joe's case, they forgot the helium or hot air.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 04, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Why would he run? He has always wanted to be president but I doubt he ever envisioned being sworn in with as many problems as we have and Obama will only support a nominee that will continue the same policies. If he won he would take office with a "recovery" in it's ninth year with barely two percent growth. The lowest labor participation rate since Carter. Highest level of Debt and number of people on assistance.

Meanwhile Iran will be building a bomb, ISIS is on the march and Syria will be on the brink or have fallen to the terrorists who will now have control of their chemical weapons and the other Gulf countries will be in an arms race. Putin is on the march in Europe and China is on the march in Asia and neither of those countries respect or fear us.

That is a lot for a seventy-three year old person to deal with when the policies he uses are the reason things are so bad.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Hoofer on September 04, 2015, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 04, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
It is nice to see Hillary pulling down the Clinton Legacy, one scandal at a time.
Yup!   :popcorn: needs more salt!  :popcorn:

Quote from: s3779m on September 04, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Guessing here its the backroom deals keeping her in. Nobody paid hellery or bill millions just to hear them talk. Those who paid are expecting favors only the president can deliver. Wonder what the penalty is for non payment?
It could get as ugly as they've treated their adversaries in the past - really ugly!  :scared:  She was pretty merciless with her "Bimbo Eruption Control" - I think there could be a number of women,  :angry: just hoping she gets a taste of her own medicine.   :cursing: Praying for the day she goes down and starts groveling...  :popcorn:  munch, munch, munch!  She knows how to ruin people, probably cooked up some really NASTY stuff in those back rooms with Huma and Cheryl at her side...  :angry: plotting & planning...  :angry: ...how to keep ole Joe OUT of the race and take down Bernie ...  :mad: :mad: ...it's suppose to be HERS!  Ach!, can't use the IRS, maybe there's video of ole Joe grabbing someone, naaa... everyone's seen that .... There's gotta be some blackmail dirt on these guys!  Obama couldn't have spent all that capitol, could he...???  :wink:

The thought of what her creditors could do to her (in her own mind)  :scared: - and I doubt they play by American rules in Saudi...!   :scared: :scared:  
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: kroz on September 04, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 04, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Why would he run? He has always wanted to be president but I doubt he ever envisioned being sworn in with as many problems as we have and Obama will only support a nominee that will continue the same policies. If he won he would take office with a "recovery" in it's ninth year with barely two percent growth. The lowest labor participation rate since Carter. Highest level of Debt and number of people on assistance.

Meanwhile Iran will be building a bomb, ISIS is on the march and Syria will be on the brink or have fallen to the terrorists who will now have control of their chemical weapons and the other Gulf countries will be in an arms race. Putin is on the march in Europe and China is on the march in Asia and neither of those countries respect or fear us.

That is a lot for a seventy-three year old person to deal with when the policies he uses are the reason things are so bad.

Oh, that was GOOD, Boo!!
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: quiller on September 05, 2015, 12:10:34 AM
Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?

Maybe nothing's holding him back. Until he declares he can't openly seek campaign contributions for a decent run against Hildabeast. At this stage it's just testing the waters. As for why the Donks haven't forced him out there to save us all from Shrill....gee, that's a toughie!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: quiller on September 05, 2015, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 04, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Why would he run? He has always wanted to be president but I doubt he ever envisioned being sworn in with as many problems as we have and Obama will only support a nominee that will continue the same policies. If he won he would take office with a "recovery" in it's ninth year with barely two percent growth. The lowest labor participation rate since Carter. Highest level of Debt and number of people on assistance.

Meanwhile Iran will be building a bomb, ISIS is on the march and Syria will be on the brink or have fallen to the terrorists who will now have control of their chemical weapons and the other Gulf countries will be in an arms race. Putin is on the march in Europe and China is on the march in Asia and neither of those countries respect or fear us.

That is a lot for a seventy-three year old person to deal with when the policies he uses are the reason things are so bad.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: ReadyToShoot on September 05, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: kj4adn on September 04, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
Put out a sacrificial lamb, the numbers are so bad.  Let her fail, and sweep her out of the way for the next election cycle. 
It's also the chance for the "lucky shot" that hits the mark.   If by sheer luck, she wins, OMG!   They just hit the jackpot!

I think... from her perspective,  :scared: the fear of losing and not fulfilling whatever back room deals,  :sneaky: the stuff of the Clinton Crime Foundation was paid for...    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:  high drama!  If her numbers keep going down, boy... is this gonna get UGLY!  :thumbsup:
I guess that as long as there still is enough time for all, in the end of the race the role of the sacrificial lamp will be played by Hillary.
Anyway we all know that it's somebody Republican to be our next president. 
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: ReadyToShoot on September 05, 2015, 10:15:17 AM
Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?
Yeah, definitely
Half a year ago I was hoping to see some fresh face on the race. Now I see a pack of "newbies"
Let us wait for them to open up
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: red_dirt on September 05, 2015, 10:32:35 AM
With the world sitting on two potential watershed moments, the economy and the Iran nuke, it would not be a good idea to enter the contest until later this year, or after the first of next year. I say that because worst case, all Washington could wind up taking the heat for, let's just say, a financial crisis or an action by Israel and or a ME coalition.

Hillary could skulk away babbling about the Republicans being too mean to avoid a financial crisis, one that is most likely unavoidable. Kerry is already out there saying that if America rejects the Iran nuke, it could trigger a crisis in the financial markets.

https://youtu.be/RsHD1jrozO4
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 04, 2015, 01:10:21 PM
He may be using this for free air time like Trump.  If he doesn't get enough hell ya!  Then he will not run.
I would bet that Bill Clinton has bullied, cursed, threatened and promised all the leaders of the party enough to give Hillary a little more time! This last week she is attempting to get really aggressive! Hasn't worked, But he has been giving interviews, speeches and even press conferences. She is pushing her Woman's issues  and defending the server scandal! She has been more active this last week then she's been in months.
Biden is waiting to be let loose!
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Hoofer on September 06, 2015, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
I would bet that Bill Clinton has bullied, cursed, threatened and promised all the leaders of the party enough to give Hillary a little more time! This last week she is attempting to get really aggressive! Hasn't worked, But he has been giving interviews, speeches and even press conferences. She is pushing her Woman's issues  and defending the server scandal! She has been more active this last week then she's been in months.
Biden is waiting to be let loose!

That picture of Bill wagging his finger at Barry on the golf course, comes to mind.  It is her nomination to lose, he who contributes to her loss will pay the price with political & financial ruin.  Money talks - in this case, demands.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: kj4adn on September 06, 2015, 10:13:41 AM
That picture of Bill wagging his finger at Barry on the golf course, comes to mind.  It is her nomination to lose, he who contributes to her loss will pay the price with political & financial ruin.  Money talks - in this case, demands.
Absolutely! Obozo is a piker when compared to Klinton mafia connections.
They'd eat his bony ass alive once he's out of office.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 11:49:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 10:16:31 AM
Absolutely! Obozo is a piker when compared to Klinton mafia connections.
They'd eat his bony ass alive once he's out of office.

As far as Obama being this awesome power player goes, same principle applies. Both parties gave him more than enough rope to hang himself with, which he did, made a total fool out of himself,  assured that America won't see another black first family for the rest of the century.
"We can't stand in the way of the world's most powerful man, now, can we?"
Pure baloney. Nixon, Carter, Johnson, Clinton, GW Bush -- each at one time the "world's most powerful man," and mattered not the least to Washington or the lawyers that run it.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Hoofer on September 06, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 11:49:11 AM
As far as Obama being this awesome power player goes, same principle applies. Both parties gave him more than enough rope to hang himself with, which he did, made a total fool out of himself,  assured that America won't see another black first family for the rest of the century.
"We can't stand in the way of the world's most powerful man, now, can we?"
Pure baloney. Nixon, Carter, Johnson, Clinton, GW Bush -- each at one time the "world's most powerful man," and mattered not the least to Washington or the lawyers that run it.

I think we need to ask, "who made each of these men, who are they beholden to?", themselves or someone or something else?

Nixon is an interesting mix of "Kennedy royalty" & GOPe, Carter was a Dem long shot at rabid socialism in disguise, Johnson was the last thing anyone expected (a placeholder getting the top slot due to an assignation), Clinton was nothing but a Cheshire Cat Smile elected via the split (Perot).  However, Clinton has proven to be smart enough to parlay his Presidency into a war $ chest, and leverage Hillary's campaign.  Unlike GW Bush, Bill is a political predator who loves the halls of power.   Maybe Soros will shut Bill down, and a new war front will open.

Barry is like a vapor, I think the same people that brought him into office will tell him his time is up, sit down and shut up - provided a Democrat is elected.  Or they'll try to figure out how to leverage his -thin- "racial" popularity for another run at turning the country socialist, thru racial division, then shut him down when they're through with him.  In short, he's a puppet - but, thinks he's really his own man.  Barry's move to encourage Biden to run was his own mistake, thinking he was a mover-n-shaker.

Biden...?  He's probably been warned to keep his skinny white butt OUT until Hillary has failed completely.   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

The media likes to distract us from the REAL drama on the left with Trump stuff - but, there's gotta be a real brawl going on between Bill, DEM elites & Barry... with the rest of the candidates begging for media attention.   :popcorn: Tis the stuff for suspense novels & TV series... Oh, they did that already?  :woot:  LOL, silly me!  :blushing:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Maybe the Trump supporters will counter with a pledge of their own. Either Trump is nominated, or we stay home.  The escape clause would be a contingency -- if Hillary turns out the nominee, the pledge is off.  Thataway, if the GOP should nominate JEB, he'd likely lose.
Then, Jesuit Joe could jump in.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Maybe the Trump supporters will counter with a pledge of their own. Either Trump is nominated, or we stay home.  The escape clause would be a contingency -- if Hillary turns out the nominee, the pledge is off.  Thataway, if the GOP should nominate JEB, he'd likely lose.
Then, Jesuit Joe could jump in.
Seriously, you like the lib that much?
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 02:03:47 PM
Seriously, you like the lib that much?

More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 02:34:25 PM
More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!
Oh I'm sure he'll walk on water, just like the trumpbots believe he can, for Trump can do no wrong. Right?
This is what happens when people deitise men, raise their status above mere mortals, like the kiddies did with the "O", all the while ignoring reality, and in Trump's case, his connection to the Marxist in both party's.

How is it possible that suddenly, after decades of pandering to both political party's, people think This time is different, "This time he's Telling The Truth".
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 02:34:25 PM
More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!
I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: kroz on September 06, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.

Yes.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: kroz on September 06, 2015, 06:03:48 PM
Yes.   :thumbsup:
You saw it too, eh? :biggrin:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.
Depends on if he negotiated the final wording! The art of the deal!! :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 06, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 06:02:53 PM
I think what really bothers them, is after stating he would not sign it, he did anyway, which gave credence to what many of us have been warning them about.
He'll change his mind in a heart beat.

It might be more than that. The GOP may have realized Jebbers isn't the man but he has the money to continue on. They may see Trump as the guy to latch on to because Trump seems to be able to tackle issues the GOP usually loses like immigration.
The last thing they want is a Cruz and they may see Trump as that barrier.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 06:13:58 PM
Depends on if he negotiated the final wording! The art of the deal!! :lol: :lol:
Then he should have chosen his words more wisely, and not have proclaimed he wouldn't sign it.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 06, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 06, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
It might be more than that. The GOP may have realized Jebbers isn't the man but he has the money to continue on. They may see Trump as the guy to latch on to because Trump seems to be able to tackle issues the GOP usually loses like immigration.
The last thing they want is a Cruz and they may see Trump as that barrier.
The GOP lose on immigration, because they side with the Dims, and against the base.
They've never been against flooding the nation with cheap labor, ever.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!

Well, now that does shine a different light on it.   Devil's in the details.

Now, Bush is apparently everything a good democrat thinks a good republican ought to be.
I think the converse may also be true with respect to Joe Biden and republicans.
Push comes to shove, the congressional republicans have shown they have successfully caucused with the democrats to counter the Cruz effect, should Cruz go all the way.
In the same sense, the two parties have cooperated to effect the Obama agenda.

I still think the Boehner Bush game plan is to continue the media assault on Trump. At a certain point, they will offer voters a choice between Bush or Carson, not counting Cruz out.

Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 04:21:09 AM
Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 09:35:03 PM
Well, now that does shine a different light on it.   Devil's in the details.

Now, Bush is apparently everything a good democrat thinks a good republican ought to be.
I think the converse may also be true with respect to Joe Biden and republicans.
Push comes to shove, the congressional republicans have shown they have successfully caucused with the democrats to counter the Cruz effect, should Cruz go all the way.
In the same sense, the two parties have cooperated to effect the Obama agenda.

I still think the Boehner Bush game plan is to continue the media assault on Trump. At a certain point, they will offer voters a choice between Bush or Carson, not counting Cruz out.
Why do you people think the media is assaulting Trump? Hell, who do you think is giving the guy the credibility he's garnered this time around?
You want media assault? Ask Palin what an onslaught from both party's looks like.

Fact is, without the media echoing Trump's every word, he'd be nothing more than a Rubio or Christy.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: Hoofer on September 07, 2015, 04:25:46 AM
Back to Biden and the DIMs for a moment...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/2/monica-crowley-the-clinton-scheme-to-counterattack/

I think the mainstream media is trying to steer attention away from the frackas in the Democratic party.

"The Clintons have never taken a political hit lying down. But given their weak and panicky reactions to Mr. Obama's current, well-orchestrated hit on her — the FBI investigation into her alleged mishandling of classified material as secretary of state — they have appeared to passively absorb the escalating attack. Until now.

As he presses his attack, Mrs. Clinton has two choices. Option one: fold early and negotiate a mild end to the investigation in exchange for dropping out of the race. But Mr. Obama is not a forgiving sort, and now that he's drawn blood, he's likely to go for the kill.

That suggests that the Clintons are going with option two: fight him — as part of an elaborate, unspoken negotiation between them over their secrets and futures. That requires a plausible defense. Their go-to strategy has always been to blame others, or inanimate objects such as documents, servers, "processes" — and to designate a fall guy (or gal) to take the rap.

This is the well-worn path they now appear to be pursuing to try to escape Mr. Obama's ever-tightening political and legal vise.

According to a well-placed source, the four known documents at the center of the FBI investigation are deeply problematic. (They came from a relatively small sample; with each new email dump, there are more questionable documents.) Some of the documents appear to have had no original classification markings."


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THIS is what Biden is waiting for - a clear path to the nomination.
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Biden is getting free attention. This is right out of Trumps play book! Why announce at this time and become a target while all the news on him to this point is positive! The smart move is what he is doing sitting back watching Hillary implode. When he enters he will just have to sweep away the socialist!
If he gets in it will have to be soon to put together his ground game, but if I was him I would delay as long as possible!
Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: supsalemgr on September 07, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Biden is getting free attention. This is right out of Trumps play book! Why announce at this time and become a target while all the news on him to this point is positive! The smart move is what he is doing sitting back watching Hillary implode. When he enters he will just have to sweep away the socialist!
If he gets in it will have to be soon to put together his ground game, but if I was him I would delay as long as possible!

If he waits there would be a lot of Hillary's people available.  :lol:

Title: Re: What is Biden waiting for?
Post by: kroz on September 07, 2015, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 07, 2015, 11:49:40 AM
If he waits there would be a lot of Hillary's people available.  :lol:

They would probably jump ship right now!!  They see the train wreck ahead.   :laugh: