I find it interesting that Carson only made four campaign stops last month, yet his poll numbers doubled, went up to as high as 15%.
Does this correlates with Bush's plummet to the bottom of polling?
I make the connection to RINO due to a couple of issues of ignorance he displayed when interviewed by the Hill and Beck.

Quote"I would probably be in favor of taking that $4 billion a year we spend on oil subsidies and using that in new fueling stations for 30 percent ethanol blends."
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/241176-carson-in-iowa-use-oil-subsidies-for-ethanol

The other was when he said some time back regarding his ignorance on the Second Amendment.

Quote"I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I'm afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it."
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/conservative-hero-ben-carson-to-beck-you-have-no-right-to-semi-automatic-weapons-in-large-cities/

I don't know if my theory is correct, but the rise in his poll numbers and his lack of exposure seems to be directly related to a lack of support for Jeb.
Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I just don't see the necessary experience to be in the WH. Let alone his lack of core principals being displayed where our Rights and liberties are concerned.

Why is he even considered a serious candidate except he's seen as  somewhat Conservative with the "right" color skin? If he were white, he wouldn'tbe taken sseriously by the he Conservatives.

Surgeon General in the Cruz Administration. THAT is his proper place.

Quote from: carlb on September 05, 2015, 09:43:27 AM
Why is he even considered a serious candidate except he's seen as  somewhat Conservative with the "right" color skin? If he were white, he wouldn'tbe taken sseriously by the he Conservatives.

Surgeon General in the Cruz Administration. THAT is his proper place.

I never really considered it, but you're probably right, it's all about skin color.

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2015, 09:11:09 AM
I find it interesting that Carson only made four campaign stops last month, yet his poll numbers doubled, went up to as high as 15%.
Does this correlates with Bush's plummet to the bottom of polling?
I make the connection to RINO due to a couple of issues of ignorance he displayed when interviewed by the Hill and Beck.

The other was when he said some time back regarding his ignorance on the Second Amendment.

I don't know if my theory is correct, but the rise in his poll numbers and his lack of exposure seems to be directly related to a lack of support for Jeb.
Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I just don't see the necessary experience to be in the WH. Let alone his lack of core principals being displayed where our Rights and liberties are concerned.

I find it very early yet.  It's the games the LSM plays.  There a lot like trolls throwing poo hoping it will stick.

Quote from: walkstall on September 05, 2015, 10:39:28 AM
I find it very early yet.  It's the games the LSM plays.  There a lot like trolls throwing poo hoping it will stick.

They have yet to Palinize a single candidate, but mark my word, it's coming, and most likely Cruz will be the target.
Truth is, the only ones that'll take the LSM seriously is the libs, while the rest of us vote in anger and destroy the Marxists.

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2015, 11:36:03 AM
They have yet to Palinize a single candidate, but mark my word, it's coming, and most likely Cruz will be the target.
Truth is, the only ones that'll take the LSM seriously is the libs, while the rest of us vote in anger and destroy the Marxists.

As I said it's early yet.  I see Cruz talking it up with the people he know he can reach without spending a lot of money.  He will need that money down the road for his big push in the LSM aids at the right time.   It's like building a wall, one brick at a time. 

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2015, 09:11:09 AM
I find it interesting that Carson only made four campaign stops last month, yet his poll numbers doubled, went up to as high as 15%.
Does this correlates with Bush's plummet to the bottom of polling?
I make the connection to RINO due to a couple of issues of ignorance he displayed when interviewed by the Hill and Beck.

The other was when he said some time back regarding his ignorance on the Second Amendment.

I don't know if my theory is correct, but the rise in his poll numbers and his lack of exposure seems to be directly related to a lack of support for Jeb.
Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I just don't see the necessary experience to be in the WH. Let alone his lack of core principals being displayed where our Rights and liberties are concerned.

That is interesting, especially in light of this Splitter Strategy Sundance talks about: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/22/tripwire-alert-evidence-now-exists-to-show-benefit-of-gope-road-mapped-splitter-strategy/

AND the article that came out saying Carson supports amnesty:( http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/ben_carson_supports_citizenship_for_illegal_aliens.html

Sorry, I hit post too soon;/  I just wanted to say, as time passes it becomes very clear that the establishment want Bush and they will have him no matter the cost. It is near impossible for anyone other than Trump to win because people like Cruz are diluted by other candidates.

Quote from: Boudica on September 05, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
That is interesting, especially in light of this Splitter Strategy Sundance talks about: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/22/tripwire-alert-evidence-now-exists-to-show-benefit-of-gope-road-mapped-splitter-strategy/

Yeah, I posted a thread on this last week, nd it's also evident., their plan is failing miserably.

QuoteAND the article that came out saying Carson supports amnesty:( http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/09/ben_carson_supports_citizenship_for_illegal_aliens.html

OUCH!

QuoteSorry, I hit post too soon;/  I just wanted to say, as time passes it becomes very clear that the establishment want Bush and they will have him no matter the cost. It is near impossible for anyone other than Trump to win because people like Cruz are diluted by other candidates.

Nah, Trump will fade and Cruz will be the beneficiary. Be patient.

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
I never really considered it, but you're probably right, it's all about skin color.

Right or wrong Carson really comes across soft spoken, intelligent and just a likable guy! It's not his skin color but what and how he presents himself! He doesn't have the fire in the belly required of our president but he is a genuine likable guy regardless of his race!

Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 01:32:21 PM
Right or wrong Carson really comes across soft spoken, intelligent and just a likable guy! It's not his skin color but what and how he presents himself! He doesn't have the fire in the belly required of our president but he is a genuine likable guy regardless of his race!

I agree, but that doesn't explain the poll numbers, especially when you consider he has absolutely no experience.
I have a feeling his support, numbers and money, is coming from the GOPe.

He's unsettled on the issues. He's not pro 2nd Amendment. There are other issues. If he were white, he wouldn't be getting this kind of support.


http://redmaryland.com/2015/05/stop-pretending-ben-carson-is-a-conservative/

Quote from: Solar on September 05, 2015, 01:48:59 PM
I agree, but that doesn't explain the poll numbers, especially when you consider he has absolutely no experience.
I have a feeling his support, numbers and money, is coming from the GOPe.

People leaving the bush, Crusty and the other RINO camps must be moving to Carson. Carson has some middle road conservative values. He is anti abortion and claims to support the second amendment! He may be wishy washy on gun rights, I don't Know, but He doesn't impress me as a liar either!

Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 02:31:38 PM
People leaving the bush, Crusty and the other RINO camps must be moving to Carson. Carson has some middle road conservative values. He is anti abortion and claims to support the second amendment! He may be wishy washy on gun rights, I don't Know, but He doesn't impress me as a liar either!

That's how I see it as well, that as the other RINO face plant, he gains supporters.
And no, I don't think he's a liar either.

I believe that Carson is a great person, probably would function best as Surgeon General and even then he would have to bone up on what was expected of him.  What we don't want is someone that is only familiar with the workings of government, especially in the presidential seat.  We can't have someone as president who will have to take his first 4 years as a tutorial event.   

Ben is popular because he is a nice guy, intelligent and very likeable  I like him too but liking someone doesn't mean he'd make a good President. He is a brilliant Doctor, and Doctors tend to be humanitarian. Sometimes too humanitarian, would he be tough enough to deal with the real sharks in this world....Putin, Iran, the Chinese, the insane NORK's????

His strong point is going to be dealing with Obamaocare....Now years ago I heard his "plan" on "Replacing healthcare" it involved some sort of account begining (forced no doubt) and when they begin working they pay it off  now the person has a health care account just like social security...I really don't like the sound of that.

Now he might have modified that somewhat over the years but I think this guy is a Moderate (code name RINO) not an elitist or a socialist but a mild conservative of some sort.