Quote from: fraggle on August 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
hmmm...now a team?  How does that hit conservatives?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-donald-trump-team-rally-against-iran-deal-n417341

Maybe read through the forum and see where we've discussed this.  Just a thought.

Quote from: fraggle on August 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
hmmm...now a team?  How does that hit conservatives?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-donald-trump-team-rally-against-iran-deal-n417341

It's a brilliant move when you think about it. Ted is not being given any airtime on purpose because he scares the shit out of the Establishment, and in direct opposition to the Lefts agenda of total governmental control over Americans.
So when you think about it, LIV's and Libs really know nothing about Cruz because Trump is sucking up all the attention, and a Cruz alignment forces Trumps supporters to take a look at the quiet Conservative.When these libs discover that a True Conservative is all about Liberty, there'll be a huge shift in polling, and it will all favor Cruz.

I can't stress enough, just how masterful Cruz is running his campaign.

Quote from: fraggle on August 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
hmmm...now a team?  How does that hit conservatives?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-donald-trump-team-rally-against-iran-deal-n417341

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QuoteCruz has made his opposition to the Iran agreement a key part of his campaign platform, vowing to "rip to shreds" the deal on the first day of a Cruz presidency.

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QuoteTrump, who said Thursday the Texas senator "has been so nice to me," also opposes the Iran deal. Still, he acknowledged he'd likely be stuck with it if he became president.

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Thanks for pointing that out, walks.  This is the HUGE difference between Cruz and Trump.

Trump will wring his hands and say, "Oh dear, what can I do about it."

Cruz will ACT and obliterate the agreement!!!

Quote from: kroz on August 29, 2015, 07:35:59 AM
Thanks for pointing that out, walks.  This is the HUGE difference between Cruz and Trump.

Trump will wring his hands and say, "Oh dear, what can I do about it."

Cruz will ACT and obliterate the agreement!!!

He ask the question.   This is how it hit this conservative.   There are doer and there procrastinators.

Quote from: fraggle on August 28, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
hmmm...now a team?  How does that hit conservatives?

Why would someone vote for the lib RINO, when we have a perfectly good Conservative in Cruz?

Quote from: Solar on August 29, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
Why would someone vote for the lib RINO, when we have a perfectly good Conservative in Cruz?

carlb must have voted...

Quote from: taxed on August 29, 2015, 06:12:50 PM


carlb must have voted...

Yeah. I did vote. I voted for Cruz.


But like I said, I was pushing for Cruz when YOU guys in "leadership" positions were making excuses for Rand's pandering. CAN YOU EVEN ADMITVYOU WERE WRONG?

You're bothered because I don't go along with the anti Trump hysteria. I see it here. I see it with the Republican Establishment. I see it with the MSM. You're in good company.

I told you, I'll be voting for Cruz in the primary. I'll vote for the nominee in the general. One thing I won't do is sit home.

Quote from: carlb on August 30, 2015, 10:15:52 AM


Yeah. I did vote. I voted for Cruz.


But like I said, I was pushing for Cruz when YOU guys in "leadership" positions were making excuses for Rand's pandering. CAN YOU EVEN ADMITVYOU WERE WRONG?

You're bothered because I don't go along with the anti Trump hysteria. I see it here. I see it with the Republican Establishment. I see it with the MSM. You're in good company.

I told you, I'll be voting for Cruz in the primary. I'll vote for the nominee in the general. One thing I won't do is sit home.

I do not recall a great deal of support for Paul on this board. He is just another faux conservative.

If a tree falls in the forest....?

QuoteI agree, it's like a pyramid, Husein on the left, the GOP on the Right, and Rand on the pinnacle between them.
Not that Rand is any kind of moderate, but that's the reality both party's have created, a literal divide in the country and Rand is the uniting force.           

QuotePaul is every candidates worst night mare, no one wants to go up against the man holding the Bill of Rights like a Howitzer.   

This one was from you SSM:

QuoteThis may sound a little strange, but Obama is Rand Paul's biggest asset when it comes to fighting the RINO's.           

I have a very short list that I will vote for given the opportunity...  That  I CAN vote for with a good conscience...  That is to say I am FINISHED with the Republican party and its betrayal of We the People...  So there are Republican candidates I simply will NOT vote for, regardless of who the Dems nominate... 

My short list is Cruz first and foremost, followed by Jindal, Trump, or Fiorina... 

But I'm also a realist and often my first choice washes out of the primary race before I get a chance to vote...  Realistically, unless some miracle happens, I don't think Jindal has the financial legs or the machine behind him to finish this race...  I can't speak for Fiorina because I simply don't follow her that closely so I don't know much about her campaign... 

Cruz is clearly THE Constitutional Originalist with the best public impact, but the media (and the Republican power brokers) intend to freeze him out at their earliest possible opportunity...

Realistically Trump is the 900 lb gorilla in the room that WILL NOT be ignored and is in fact scaring the pants off the RINOs and Lefties alike...  In fact I believe its Trumps presence on the stage that is keeping the RINOs and Leftists distracts and off of Ted's back...  If Trump wasn't there being his scary outrageous self, the Pubs and the media would be "doing a Palin" on Ted Cruz to destroy him early...

The four names I mention are the only ones in this race that I can support in good conscience (yes I know about the amazing Dr. Carson but I have a problem with him, to be discussed later)...  Cruz is head and shoulders above the rest but in a real world where the party power brokers are waging war on Conservatives and have every intention of driving Conservatism out of the primary race, I can't be certain that my man will finish the course... 

If Cruz is in the race when my state comes up, he has my vote - Period..! 

But if not, and Mr. Trump is still in it, I have every intention of voting for Trump, if for no other reason than to bitch-slap the Republican power machine...  He's as qualified to hold the office as ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN and I'm sick to death of this arrogant attitude among the insiders that you have to have government experience to qualify for the office...  We have tried that for decades and we now see what a hot recommendation that was...

If none of the four candidates mentioned win the nomination, I will simply withhold my vote...  I REFUSE to participate in anymore of this Republican con-game...  I don't care if the Dems nominate Lucifer himself, I will NOT vote for a RINO... 

RINOs don't represent me anymore than Democrats do...  This election is a pivotal point in the survival of the America I grew up in...  I will vote for Conservativism or none at all...

So sayeth Laz...

I will write Cruz if need be as of right now.

Quote from: lazarus on September 04, 2015, 12:22:01 PM
I have a very short list that I will vote for given the opportunity...  That  I CAN vote for with a good conscience...  That is to say I am FINISHED with the Republican party and its betrayal of We the People...  So there are Republican candidates I simply will NOT vote for, regardless of who the Dems nominate... 

My short list is Cruz first and foremost, followed by Jindal, Trump, or Fiorina... 

But I'm also a realist and often my first choice washes out of the primary race before I get a chance to vote...  Realistically, unless some miracle happens, I don't think Jindal has the financial legs or the machine behind him to finish this race...  I can't speak for Fiorina because I simply don't follow her that closely so I don't know much about her campaign... 

Cruz is clearly THE Constitutional Originalist with the best public impact, but the media (and the Republican power brokers) intend to freeze him out at their earliest possible opportunity...

Realistically Trump is the 900 lb gorilla in the room that WILL NOT be ignored and is in fact scaring the pants off the RINOs and Lefties alike...  In fact I believe its Trumps presence on the stage that is keeping the RINOs and Leftists distracts and off of Ted's back...  If Trump wasn't there being his scary outrageous self, the Pubs and the media would be "doing a Palin" on Ted Cruz to destroy him early...

The four names I mention are the only ones in this race that I can support in good conscience (yes I know about the amazing Dr. Carson but I have a problem with him, to be discussed later)...  Cruz is head and shoulders above the rest but in a real world where the party power brokers are waging war on Conservatives and have every intention of driving Conservatism out of the primary race, I can't be certain that my man will finish the course... 

If Cruz is in the race when my state comes up, he has my vote - Period..! 

But if not, and Mr. Trump is still in it, I have every intention of voting for Trump, if for no other reason than to bitch-slap the Republican power machine...  He's as qualified to hold the office as ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN and I'm sick to death of this arrogant attitude among the insiders that you have to have government experience to qualify for the office...  We have tried that for decades and we now see what a hot recommendation that was...

If none of the four candidates mentioned win the nomination, I will simply withhold my vote...  I REFUSE to participate in anymore of this Republican con-game...  I don't care if the Dems nominate Lucifer himself, I will NOT vote for a RINO... 

RINOs don't represent me anymore than Democrats do...  This election is a pivotal point in the survival of the America I grew up in...  I will vote for Conservativism or none at all...

So sayeth Laz...

Laz, search our forum, you'll find a thread on every Pol you mentioned, particularly Fiorina, who is in fact a huge RINO.
As for Trump, he talks a damn good game, but in truth, he's more of a Lib RINO than anything, flip flops like a carp on a hot street, and changes direction like a seasonal breeze.

For me, Cruz is the ONLY candidate.

Quote from: lazarus on September 04, 2015, 12:22:01 PM
I have a very short list that I will vote for given the opportunity...  That  I CAN vote for with a good conscience...  That is to say I am FINISHED with the Republican party and its betrayal of We the People...  So there are Republican candidates I simply will NOT vote for, regardless of who the Dems nominate... 

My short list is Cruz first and foremost, followed by Jindal, Trump, or Fiorina... 

But I'm also a realist and often my first choice washes out of the primary race before I get a chance to vote...  Realistically, unless some miracle happens, I don't think Jindal has the financial legs or the machine behind him to finish this race...  I can't speak for Fiorina because I simply don't follow her that closely so I don't know much about her campaign... 

Cruz is clearly THE Constitutional Originalist with the best public impact, but the media (and the Republican power brokers) intend to freeze him out at their earliest possible opportunity...

Realistically Trump is the 900 lb gorilla in the room that WILL NOT be ignored and is in fact scaring the pants off the RINOs and Lefties alike...  In fact I believe its Trumps presence on the stage that is keeping the RINOs and Leftists distracts and off of Ted's back...  If Trump wasn't there being his scary outrageous self, the Pubs and the media would be "doing a Palin" on Ted Cruz to destroy him early...

The four names I mention are the only ones in this race that I can support in good conscience (yes I know about the amazing Dr. Carson but I have a problem with him, to be discussed later)...  Cruz is head and shoulders above the rest but in a real world where the party power brokers are waging war on Conservatives and have every intention of driving Conservatism out of the primary race, I can't be certain that my man will finish the course... 

If Cruz is in the race when my state comes up, he has my vote - Period..! 

But if not, and Mr. Trump is still in it, I have every intention of voting for Trump, if for no other reason than to bitch-slap the Republican power machine...  He's as qualified to hold the office as ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN and I'm sick to death of this arrogant attitude among the insiders that you have to have government experience to qualify for the office...  We have tried that for decades and we now see what a hot recommendation that was...

If none of the four candidates mentioned win the nomination, I will simply withhold my vote...  I REFUSE to participate in anymore of this Republican con-game...  I don't care if the Dems nominate Lucifer himself, I will NOT vote for a RINO... 

RINOs don't represent me anymore than Democrats do...  This election is a pivotal point in the survival of the America I grew up in...  I will vote for Conservativism or none at all...

So sayeth Laz...

" If Trump wasn't there being his scary outrageous self, the Pubs and the media would be "doing a Palin" on Ted Cruz to destroy him early..."

An excellent point. Cruz is gaining more support, but the establishment and MSM are fixated on Trump. That is fine, Cruz is slowly building support. He will pick up most of the Jindal and Santorum followers, as well as Huckabee. I don't see Trump and Fiorina as hurting conservatives as they do provide distraction.