Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
It's not that Trump is all that popular, it's not that he can win, which I don't believe he can, it's the media frenzy designed to make a Trump candidacy appear inevitable.
Note all the positive Trump polls, also note how they are not polling just the Right when talking about primaries.
The media is propping up trump for their own nefarious reasons.

Yes, it's killing the RINO', but it's also creating an illusion that the Right backs him for President.
Here's the truth, it's an legerdemain.

"Our latest national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely Republican Voters now think Trump is likely to be the Republican presidential nominee next year, with 25% who say it's Very Likely. That compares to 27% who felt a Trump nomination was likely two months ago when he formally announced his presidential bid, a finding that included just nine percent (9%) who said it was Very Likely."

It's not that they support him, they're falling for the hype of inevitably.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change

Both Parties have long used the "inevitability" hype to drive the political process.  For the life of me I do not understand WHY the voters fall for it EVERY election cycle. 

I still think we can break that cycle.  The weird thing is that the GOPe want Jeb, the LIV want Trump, and the grassroots conservatives still want Cruz.  My question is HOW LONG the GOPe will continue to support Jeb?  His numbers are not good and the base has revolted against him.  They can either get behind a REAL conservative candidate or cede defeat to Trump.  Which do they fear most?

It's gonna be huge!: Trump relocates event to Alabama football stadium as expected attendance balloons to 30,000 people or more

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205320/It-s-gonna-huge-Trump-relocates-event-Alabama-football-stadium-expected-attendance-balloons-30-000-people-more.html#ixzz3jTBkpmNV

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
It's not that Trump is all that popular, it's not that he can win, which I don't believe he can, it's the media frenzy designed to make a Trump candidacy appear inevitable.
Note all the positive Trump polls, also note how they are not polling just the Right when talking about primaries.
The media is propping up trump for their own nefarious reasons.

Yes, it's killing the RINO', but it's also creating an illusion that the Right backs him for President.
Here's the truth, it's an legerdemain.

"Our latest national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely Republican Voters now think Trump is likely to be the Republican presidential nominee next year, with 25% who say it's Very Likely. That compares to 27% who felt a Trump nomination was likely two months ago when he formally announced his presidential bid, a finding that included just nine percent (9%) who said it was Very Likely."

It's not that they support him, they're falling for the hype of inevitably.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change

Indeed. Just the other day, Limbaugh in breaking down a variety of polls, illustrated there is quite a discrepancy between the party base and moderate voters, the latter representing a majority of his Republican voter support. So he doesnt carry the base as of right now, and wont as long as a Ted Cruz can hang with him till the Iowa primary next Feb. Another thing to consider is confusion between Trump's name recognition and actual popular support, which will hurt him over the course of the process, because h cant get any better well known. His approval numbers, due to this, were pretty much static from the get go. Trump's only real option, which has been heavily in practice already, is in attempting via attack mode to suppress the other nominees approval.

Quote from: kroz on August 21, 2015, 09:54:04 AM
Both Parties have long used the "inevitability" hype to drive the political process.  For the life of me I do not understand WHY the voters fall for it EVERY election cycle. 

I still think we can break that cycle.  The weird thing is that the GOPe want Jeb, the LIV want Trump, and the grassroots conservatives still want Cruz.  My question is HOW LONG the GOPe will continue to support Jeb?  His numbers are not good and the base has revolted against him.  They can either get behind a REAL conservative candidate or cede defeat to Trump.  Which do they fear most?

EXACTLY!!!! The GOPe depend on this sleight of hand, manipulating to base into believing that if we don't support their guy, we lose to the left.
Well that crap no longer flies, the Marxists are not a threat any longer, so their is no reason to settle for an Establishment Troll.

Quote from: Ulsterking on August 21, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Indeed. Just the other day, Limbaugh in breaking down a variety of polls, illustrated there is quite a discrepancy between the party base and moderate voters, the latter representing a majority of his Republican voter support. So he doesnt carry the base as of right now, and wont as long as a Ted Cruz can hang with him till the Iowa primary next Feb. Another thing to consider is confusion between Trump's name recognition and actual popular support, which will hurt him over the course of the process, because h cant get any better well known. His approval numbers, due to this, were pretty much static from the get go. Trump's only real option, which has been heavily in practice already, is in attempting via attack mode to suppress the other nominees approval.

Nailed it! Trump tops out around 30% at best, while 65% detest the Leftist in RINO clothing.

Quote from: walkstall on August 21, 2015, 09:46:52 AM
The MSM is very hard at work making him number one for a reason.  They must have something down the line they will drop about him.

If I was a betting man, I would give great odds that the msm has several somethings they can drop on trump.

This is where you go astray. The MSM didn't make him. The People did. You can accept that or reject it, but the politicians better figure out his appeal -- fast!

Quote from: mrclose on August 22, 2015, 01:18:11 PM

Looks like Angela Lansbury...  Murder, She Wiped 

Quote from: kit saginaw on August 22, 2015, 05:33:07 PM
Looks like Angela Lansbury...  Murder, She Wiped

Your right, she does look like Lansbury in that hair.

Quote from: s3779m on August 22, 2015, 02:52:41 PM
If I was a betting man, I would give great odds that the msm has several somethings they can drop on trump.

If not for the LSM avoiding asking him all the tough questions, or vetting and holding him to his hypocrisy, there wouldn't be a Trump in the race.
So yes, the LSM is not only responsible, but they're keeping him front page above the fold.

Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2015, 06:34:40 PM
If not for the LSM avoiding asking him all the tough questions, or vetting and holding him to his hypocrisy, there wouldn't be a Trump in the race.
So yes, the LSM is not only responsible, but they're keeping him front page above the fold.

I think they are trying to give him enough rope to hang himself but that isn't working! Trump has given 66 interviews and he talks about the issues! Every time they get a gotcha like the anchor baby thing , he is proven correct! It's like the Teflon Don! nothing sticks!
Cruz is doing well building on his base. His policy statements are not far from Trumps. If or when the Donald implodes Cruz may be the main benefactor.

Quote from: redbeard on August 22, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
I think they are trying to give him enough rope to hang himself but that isn't working! Trump has given 66 interviews and he talks about the issues! Every time they get a gotcha like the anchor baby thing , he is proven correct! It's like the Teflon Don! nothing sticks!
Cruz is doing well building on his base. His policy statements are not far from Trumps. If or when the Donald implodes Cruz may be the main benefactor.

He's stuck at 30% approval and 50%+ disapproval. He has no where to go but down.

Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2015, 07:13:18 PM
He's stuck at 30% approval and 50%+ disapproval. He has no where to go but down.

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Friday, August 21, 2015
Billionaire businessman Donald Trump has captured the public's attention for better or worse, and his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, once seen as a pipe dream, is now a topic of serious discussion. So for the near future at least, Rasmussen Reports intends to track Trump's race for the White House in a weekly Friday feature we're calling Trump Change.

Our latest national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely Republican Voters now think Trump is likely to be the Republican presidential nominee next year, with 25% who say it's Very Likely. That compares to 27% who felt a Trump nomination was likely two months ago when he formally announced his presidential bid, a finding that included just nine percent (9%) who said it was Very Likely
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change

Can't find where you got that unfavorability rating from but it looks old.

Quote from: carlb on August 22, 2015, 05:22:22 PM
This is where you go astray. The MSM didn't make him. The People did. You can accept that or reject it, but the politicians better figure out his appeal -- fast!

Never claimed the msm "made him". I guess lots of us "go astray".

Quote from: s3779m on August 23, 2015, 01:08:48 AM
  Never claimed the msm "made him". I guess lots of us "go astray".

You're right, although I wonder why you believe I was addressing you. My statement was addressing a common theme about Trump. Guess you went astray after all in your assumption.