Quote from: Dori on August 16, 2015, 02:14:09 PM
Never going to happen, I don't care who gets into office.

Your right. As long as they can count on YOUR attitude. It's the same attitude as Rubio and McCain and Shumer and Ted Kennedy the author of this mess.

Like I said, SOME of you really disappointed me. You wallow in negativity. No wonder we got Obama. You'll bitch about it day and night, but nothing will ever change because doing the right thing is "too hard" for you.

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
THIS is how you never do anything. Seriously, some of you are a disappointment. I get that you don't think HE will do anything on this issue (he will). But don't pretend we, as a nation, can't!  It's not hard. Still, well never accomplish anything with some of you nattering nabobs of negativism.

"Lead, follow, or just get out of the way!

Whoa!  There's a phrase out of the past!

Quote from: Solar on August 16, 2015, 12:47:56 PM
And that really is the answer, take away all the freebies, fine people that hire them, close the damn border, they'll leave on their own accord and won't be back.

exactly! Enforce the damn laws, turn off the benefits and they WILL self deport. It's happened during the Obama depression. The jobs dried up - even for them- and a lot of them went home. This is easy. Why some want to make this a hard thing is beyond me.

Great article. Worth your time to read:

Legal Reasons a U.S. Immigrant May Be Deported

Quote from: PeterR on August 16, 2015, 02:26:56 PM


Whoa!  There's a phrase out of the past!

I always liked that phrase 

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 02:26:24 PM
Your right. As long as they can count on YOUR attitude. It's the same attitude as Rubio and McCain and Shumer and Ted Kennedy the author of this mess.

Like I said, SOME of you really disappointed me. You wallow in negativity. No wonder we got Obama. You'll bitch about it day and night, but nothing will ever change because doing the right thing is "too hard" for you.

Just what am I supposed to do about illegal immigration?  Tell me, what do you do about illegal immigration outside of voting for someone you hope can reign it in. 

Quote from: Solar on August 16, 2015, 12:47:56 PM
And that really is the answer, take away all the freebies, fine people that hire them, close the damn border, they'll leave on their own accord and won't be back.

Absolutely. This is not rocket science or brain surgery.

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 02:26:24 PM
Your right. As long as they can count on YOUR attitude. It's the same attitude as Rubio and McCain and Shumer and Ted Kennedy the author of this mess.

Like I said, SOME of you really disappointed me. You wallow in negativity. No wonder we got Obama. You'll bitch about it day and night, but nothing will ever change because doing the right thing is "too hard" for you.

How do you do it? And don't just say enforce the laws because isn't enough. The system itself is unworkable.

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 02:26:24 PM
Your right. As long as they can count on YOUR attitude. It's the same attitude as Rubio and McCain and Shumer and Ted Kennedy the author of this mess.

Like I said, SOME of you really disappointed me. You wallow in negativity. No wonder we got Obama. You'll bitch about it day and night, but nothing will ever change because doing the right thing is "too hard" for you.

So besides blasting all of us for not being up to your standard, what have you done that we can latch onto?

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 16, 2015, 02:55:19 PM
Absolutely. This is not rocket science or brain surgery.

Yep, Las Vegas is a prime example, nearly 30% of the workforce left when the obozo depression hit, and that was only the beginning, and that workforce consisted primarily of illegals, most of which went back to Mexico.
In fact, it was this same labor force that the unions used to unseat TEA candidate Sharron Angle when she ran against Reid.
All we have to do is enforce the laws already on the books, cut off all support, see to it bilingual BS support ends, etc.
They'll simply up and leave.

Quote from: s3779m on August 16, 2015, 03:45:36 PM
  So besides blasting all of us for not being up to your standard, what have you done that we can latch onto?

Do you lie, or just have trouble reading?

SOME of you disappoint me.

You disappoint me if you condemn Rubio who believes they can't be deported, so we have to settle. Here you tell us the same thing.

Why do you hate Rubio or McCain when you parrot his words?

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
Do you lie, or just have trouble reading?

SOME of you disappoint me.

You disappoint me if you condemn Rubio who believes they can't be deported, so we have to settle. Here you tell us the same thing.

Why do you hate Rubio or McCain when you parrot his words?

Wait, you aren't saying you believe Rubio, are you?

Quote from: Solar on August 16, 2015, 04:07:05 PM
Wait, you aren't saying you believe Rubio, are you?

Rubio disappointed me when he joined Schumer and McCain on this issue. I think, in general, he's a good man though and worth keeping. I don't want him as president though because he also thinks this can't be fixed (fixed my way).

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
Do you lie, or just have trouble reading?

SOME of you disappoint me.

You disappoint me if you condemn Rubio who believes they can't be deported, so we have to settle. Here you tell us the same thing.

Why do you hate Rubio or McCain when you parrot his words?

Ok, some of us disappoint you, still did not answer what have you done? Or answered how to deport 20,000,000. And I believe I did offer a solution or "do you have trouble reading"

Quote from: s3779m on August 16, 2015, 11:14:14 AM




Well lets see, first one would have to hire enough law enforcement at the federal level to go after 20,000,000 illegals, you have to house, clothe and feed the 20,000,000 illegals while waiting for a court appearance, if there is a court decision there will probably be an appeal, so more housing, clothing, and feeding for 20,000,000. Then there is transportation to the border for 20,000,000, which will need more federal l.e. Of course you can only drop them off at the border, to try to transport them into their country would technically be an invasion, and we have not been very good at that, not to mention the cost on that. Lets say all of this works, any idea what the cost would be, I have no idea, and after it works, what do you do with all of that federal l.e. that just got hired? that scares me more than the illegal problem. And we still have not fixed the problem of more crossing. Not to mention the problem that agriculture produce will be rotting in the fields by now. In other words deporting 20,000,000 is not a workable solution. Take away incentives for illegals, but figure out a way to get workers here legally, on time, where needed.

Wrong...Wrong and wrong again.

They don;t have to hire anybody. All they need do is adopt a strict enforcement policy of the laws already on the books. They do need some fine tuning of the laws, they need to empower LOCAl/STATE Law enforcement to be able to enforce immigration law....which the Hussein admin fought tooth and nail because they knew how effective this would be. Their only (wrong again) counter to that was that Local Cops cannot enforce Federal Law which is the biggest bunch of horse manure ever. Local cops certainly have been enforcing a myriad of federal laws from Bank robbery, interstate transportation of stolen motor vehicles RICO Statutes and especially DRUG LAWS. Holder got called on that he replied with some wimpy retort about Being an illegal is an administrative infraction not a criminal offense...wrong again.

Local Cops are most likely to encounter the aliens we need to get rid of first...criminal aliens. Other than that we need laws that penalizes anyone who hires illegals, rents them houses, gives them loans from the bank, allows them bank accounts or sales them motor vehicles or gives them a driver license. Then go after sanctuary cities, no federal funds to any such self declared cities & hold the city officials accountable and Lock their assses up...see how fast they recant

Deporting 20,000 or more illegals wouldn't be an overnight endeavor but I believe with the resources we have it is do-able, AFTER FIRST TURNING OFF THE SPIGOT at the border and STOP GIVING VISAS TO THOSE WHO POSE A THREAT ie from all muslim countries.

Even if congress would not enact such laws there are ways around it. In the old days, we had several (then) INS agents who worked with the city cops on Task forces. These guys would ride around with members of the detective bureau and when anyone encountered a suspected illegal they would be there, do an interview and arrest as needed, or file detainers against anyone arrested by the cops for something else. These people were working with us 24/7 and they really made an impact when we were going after the Rastafarian (Jamaican) Posse's who were shooting up DC trying to take over the drug trade.

I take these people to the nearest airport, have US Military C-130's outfitted for passenger travel and fly them back under armed fighter escort to Mexico and kick 'em out the door once on the ground....simple..You have to have somebody with the cojones to do that. And a polictian who has the brains to listen to people who could make it come to fruition.