'Bout time somebody said it. No "hate," no "phobia," its just the truth and nobody from either party has the guts to say it. Have to give credit where credit is due.

QuoteDonald Trump would reverse President Obama's executive orders on immigration and deport all undocumented immigrants from the U.S. as president, he said in an exclusive interview with NBC's Chuck Todd.

"We're going to keep the families together, but they have to go," he said in the interview, which will air in full on NBC's "Meet the Press" this Sunday.

Pressed on what he'd do if the immigrants in question had nowhere to return to, Trump reiterated: "They have to go."

"We will work with them. They have to go. Chuck, we either have a country, or we don't have a country," he said 

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/donald-trump-undocumented-immigrants-have-go-n410501

I wonder if Walker could say they have to go?

How would Donald do that?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 15, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
How would Donald do that?

So how do YOU think?  I could do it. So can anyone detetmined to do the right thing. It's really not hard.

Here's a hint. ENFORCE THE CURRENT LAWS FOR STARTERS. They aren't "broken." Our politicians are.

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 15, 2015, 09:53:05 PM
I wonder if Walker could say they have to go?

Walker will say WORDS. It's not an issue to him except to get elected. I think it is with Trump.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 15, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
How would Donald do that?

Hehe good point, it's all just cheap rhetoric without any substance. Start checking everyone for their passport or documents will be seen as unconstitutional and doing it only to latino featured individuals will be racist. Trump is just pandering to the voters and splitting GOP base further.

It's impossible to throw all or even most illegal immigrants out, you can only stop most new ones from entering.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 16, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
Hehe good point, it's all just cheap rhetoric without any substance. Start checking everyone for their passport or documents will be seen as unconstitutional and doing it only to latino featured individuals will be racist. Trump is just pandering to the voters and splitting GOP base further.

It's impossible to throw all or even most illegal immigrants out, you can only stop most new ones from entering.

THIS is how you never do anything. Seriously, some of you are a disappointment. I get that you don't think HE will do anything on this issue (he will). But don't pretend we, as a nation, can't!  It's not hard. Still, well never accomplish anything with some of you nattering nabobs of negativism.

"Lead, follow, or just get out of the way!

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
THIS is how you never do anything. Seriously, some of you are a disappointment. I get that you don't think HE will do anything on this issue (he will). But don't pretend we, as a nation, can't!  It's not hard. Still, well never accomplish anything with some of you nattering nabobs of negativism.

"Lead, follow, or just get out of the way!

So how do you propose to deport 20,000,000 illegal immigrants back to countries that will themselves do everything to block the deportation? Remember that these illegals send a lot of money back to their origin countries (capital drain). Any Financial incentives would have to be enormous. You said yourself it's not hard...

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
THIS is how you never do anything. Seriously, some of you are a disappointment. I get that you don't think HE will do anything on this issue (he will). But don't pretend we, as a nation, can't!  It's not hard. Still, well never accomplish anything with some of you nattering nabobs of negativism.

"Lead, follow, or just get out of the way!

As long as there are incentives there will be a flow of people to get them. Take away the incentives and the flow will soon trickle. I have yet to hear anyone promise to take away money benefits for those who are not here legally or/and to punish those who hire those who are here illegally with prison time. Too many people depend on illegals because of the cheap cost, make that cheap cost a high risk decision and we will start to fix the problem. 

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 16, 2015, 10:37:42 AM
So how do you propose to deport 20,000,000 illegal immigrants back to countries that will themselves do everything to block the deportation? Remember that these illegals send a lot of money back to their origin countries (capital drain). Any Financial incentives would have to be enormous. You said yourself it's not hard...

Answers are given, but some of you keep throwing out the same old line the SUPPORTERS of ILLEGAL immigration use. Are you a supporter of ILLEGAL immigration?

"How do you deport 20 million illegals.?"

You REALLY DONT KNOW?I'm not going to spoon feed you. I'll let you think about it to see if you can come up to with answers.

I did mention earlier BEGIN by enforcing the damn law. The People are with a president who will do that rather than pretend "the law is broken.". No, the laws are fine. The politicians are broken.

No go from there. How do we deport 20 million CRIMINALS  Think it thru a little before asking to be spoon fed.

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
Answers are given, but some of you keep throwing out the same old line the SUPPORTERS of ILLEGAL immigration use. Are you a supporter of ILLEGAL immigration?

"How do you deport 20 million illegals.?"

You REALLY DONT KNOW?I'm not going to spoon feed you. I'll let you think about it to see if you can come up to with answers.

I did mention earlier BEGIN by enforcing the damn law. The People are with a president who will do that rather than pretend "the law is broken.". No, the laws are fine. The politicians are broken.

No go from there. How do we deport 20 million CRIMINALS  Think it thru a little before asking to be spoon fed.

Well lets see, first one would have to hire enough law enforcement at the federal level to go after 20,000,000 illegals, you have to house, clothe and feed the 20,000,000 illegals while waiting for a court appearance, if there is a court decision there will probably be an appeal, so more housing, clothing, and feeding for 20,000,000. Then there is transportation to the border for 20,000,000, which will need more federal l.e. Of course you can only drop them off at the border, to try to transport them into their country would technically be an invasion, and we have not been very good at that, not to mention the cost on that. Lets say all of this works, any idea what the cost would be, I have no idea, and after it works, what do you do with all of that federal l.e. that just got hired? that scares me more than the illegal problem. And we still have not fixed the problem of more crossing. Not to mention the problem that agriculture produce will be rotting in the fields by now. In other words deporting 20,000,000 is not a workable solution. Take away incentives for illegals, but figure out a way to get workers here legally, on time, where needed.   

Quote from: s3779m on August 16, 2015, 11:14:14 AM




Well lets see, first one would have to hire enough law enforcement at the federal level to go after 20,000,000 illegals, you have to house, clothe and feed the 20,000,000 illegals while waiting for a court appearance, if there is a court decision there will probably be an appeal, so more housing, clothing, and feeding for 20,000,000. Then there is transportation to the border for 20,000,000, which will need more federal l.e. Of course you can only drop them off at the border, to try to transport them into their country would technically be an invasion, and we have not been very good at that, not to mention the cost on that. Lets say all of this works, any idea what the cost would be, I have no idea, and after it works, what do you do with all of that federal l.e. that just got hired? that scares me more than the illegal problem. And we still have not fixed the problem of more crossing. Not to mention the problem that agriculture produce will be rotting in the fields by now. In other words deporting 20,000,000 is not a workable solution. Take away incentives for illegals, but figure out a way to get workers here legally, on time, where needed.

QuoteNot to mention the problem that agriculture produce will be rotting in the fields by now.

Put the unemployed in the fields.  If they don't work, then no unemployment check also.  If they do not wish to work in the fields they will find a job.   I see load after load of old school buses taking people out to work in the fields.   All coming from towns 40 to 50 miles away.  Take the illegals and they will start going home on there own.  We have law about who can work and who can not, just enforce the law we have.  It would not take 20.000 new law enforcement badge holders. 

Quote from: carlb on August 16, 2015, 03:35:58 AM
So how do YOU think?  I could do it. So can anyone detetmined to do the right thing. It's really not hard.

Here's a hint. ENFORCE THE CURRENT LAWS FOR STARTERS. They aren't "broken." Our politicians are.

Yes I get that but they still have to go through the court system and that is where it breaks down.

Quote from: s3779m on August 16, 2015, 10:48:18 AM
As long as there are incentives there will be a flow of people to get them. Take away the incentives and the flow will soon trickle. I have yet to hear anyone promise to take away money benefits for those who are not here legally or/and to punish those who hire those who are here illegally with prison time. Too many people depend on illegals because of the cheap cost, make that cheap cost a high risk decision and we will start to fix the problem.

And that really is the answer, take away all the freebies, fine people that hire them, close the damn border, they'll leave on their own accord and won't be back.

Never going to happen, I don't care who gets into office.