Quote from: redbeard on August 06, 2015, 09:52:51 PM
Why?

Unbelievable.  Can't be sure of his positions.  Seemed to me that which ever way the wind blows you will find Trump.  He looked like a joke tonight.  That's my opinion.  I guess we will see how he did in the next couple day but I think he hurt himself.

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 06, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Unbelievable.  Can't be sure of his positions.  Seemed to me that which ever way the wind blows you will find Trump.  He looked like a joke tonight.  That's my opinion.  I guess we will see how he did in the next couple day but I think he hurt himself.

At this point Trump is all words. Eventually he is going to have to put some meat on the bones.

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 06, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Unbelievable.  Can't be sure of his positions.  Seemed to me that which ever way the wind blows you will find Trump.  He looked like a joke tonight.  That's my opinion.  I guess we will see how he did in the next couple day but I think he hurt himself.

He couldn't even give a coherent answer when asked WHEN he became a Republican.

Quote from: carlb on August 07, 2015, 04:34:28 AM
He couldn't even give a coherent answer when asked WHEN he became a Republican.

That was a GREAT question!!!   I thought Trump did not shine last night.... very defensive and surly. 

I did not like the question about not supporting the Party nominee.  I won't agree to that either.  That's because I won't support Jeb or Christie or Pataki or Graham......   

Trump wasn't bad.  He just... wasn't that great either.  He warned us he was a first time debater.  It showed.

TRump was Trump.

He sounded on the defensive all night and that means he was the only one to actually debate . WHile I enjoyed his calling out of leaders as 'stupid' I thought he could have gave a better answer on the "proof" of Mexican govt 'sending illegals here....I mean it is rather obvious in a country where cartels control territory the size of califonia how corrupt the local Govt and police are to let that happen let alone 100K body count in a narco terrorist war.

As right as he may be about some things you have to articulate it better than he did.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 07, 2015, 06:03:26 AM
TRump was Trump.
He sounded on the defensive all night and that means he was the only one to actually debate . WHile I enjoyed his calling out of leaders as 'stupid' I thought he could have gave a better answer on the "proof" of Mexican govt 'sending illegals here....I mean it is rather obvious in a country where cartels control territory the size of califonia how corrupt the local Govt and police are to let that happen let alone 100K body count in a narco terrorist war.  As right as he may be about some things you have to articulate it better than he did.

At first, Billy, I would have said I agreed with you on that. Upon further reflection, that FOX jerk was demanding Trump provide concrete evidence to back up his statement that illegal aliens are committing crimes in America. Think about it. That jerk on FOX may well have been trying to trick Trump into making a compromising statement about a specific criminal, be it Kate's killer (the obvious reference)  or some other accused high profile illegal. The jerks on FOX, especially Kelly, were falling over one another baiting and hoping to trap Trump. That is almost undeniable.

Donald Trump was not born yesterday. He did exactly the right thing. He recognized right away that he had stepped into a nest of vipers (Bush supporters) and he chose to remain silent on that leading question, even though everyone has read the records of violence and crime committed by Obama's illegals. The fact is, the illegals are "raisin' hell" all over the country.

I am sure Trump could have come up with a generic statistic, but he is too smart for that. Probably, FOX geniuses, Bushg dupes that they are,  put their heads together and came up with that question as a  trap.  Then they sent that FOX jerk on an errand, one that turned out to be a fool's errand.  Sorry FOX, no byte, no pun intended.

Again, think about it. This is a candidate who has been threatened by El Chapo. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, playing this game and going there. Obviously, though, FOX has  no shame.

Trump has no substance. However, I did enjoy his Rosie O'Donnell quip.

Trump 1
Cruz 2
Fox 0

Quote from: red_dirt on August 07, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
At first, Billy, I would have said I agreed with you on that. Upon further reflection, that FOX jerk was demanding Trump provide concrete evidence to back up his statement that illegal aliens are committing crimes in America. Think about it. That jerk on FOX may well have been trying to trick Trump into making a compromising statement about a specific criminal, be it Kate's killer (the obvious reference)  or some other accused high profile illegal. The jerks on FOX, especially Kelly, were falling over one another baiting and hoping to trap Trump. That is almost undeniable.

Donald Trump was not born yesterday. He did exactly the right thing. He recognized right away that he had stepped into a nest of vipers (Bush supporters) and he chose to remain silent on that leading question, even though everyone has read the records of violence and crime committed by Obama's illegals. The fact is, the illegals are "raisin' hell" all over the country.

I am sure Trump could have come up with a generic statistic, but he is too smart for that. Probably, FOX geniuses, Bushg dupes that they are,  put their heads together and came up with that question as a  trap.  Then they sent that FOX jerk on an errand, one that turned out to be a fool's errand.  Sorry FOX, no byte, no pun intended.

Again, think about it. This is a candidate who has been threatened by El Chapo. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, playing this game and going there. Obviously, though, FOX has  no shame.

Yeah you got a good point its pretty obvious as to how mexican officials are benefitting from the cartels cash. Only an idiot would ask that question and demand proof. That's why I say Trump missed a golden opportunity to make Wallace look even more stupid, speaking of el Chappo all he had to do was mention that saying something like "how the hell you think he got out of prison building a mile long tunnel if not with cooperation of the prison officials?"

And fox should be ashamed of that nonsense they orchestrated last night

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 06, 2015, 09:42:55 PM
Trump is out!  I think he flopped.

I disagree.  I think he gained.

I can;t find any solid evidence of it but internet rumor has it Trump WENT UP in the polls, I think Fox quoted a Georgia Poll where he was at 38% up from 34.

Of course some of that may be backlash against Fox....

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 07, 2015, 05:16:52 PM
I can;t find any solid evidence of it but internet rumor has it Trump WENT UP in the polls, I think Fox quoted a Georgia Poll where he was at 38% up from 34.

Of course some of that may be backlash against Fox....

Georgia? No it must be Harry keeps hitting the Trump button!!

It's not that Trump is all that popular, it's not that he can win, which I don't believe he can, it's the media frenzy designed to make a Trump candidacy appear inevitable.
Note all the positive Trump polls, also note how they are not polling just the Right when talking about primaries.
The media is propping up trump for their own nefarious reasons.

Yes, it's killing the RINO', but it's also creating an illusion that the Right backs him for President.
Here's the truth, it's an legerdemain.

"Our latest national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely Republican Voters now think Trump is likely to be the Republican presidential nominee next year, with 25% who say it's Very Likely. That compares to 27% who felt a Trump nomination was likely two months ago when he formally announced his presidential bid, a finding that included just nine percent (9%) who said it was Very Likely."

It's not that they support him, they're falling for the hype of inevitably.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change

Quote from: Solar on August 21, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
It's not that Trump is all that popular, it's not that he can win, which I don't believe he can, it's the media frenzy designed to make a Trump candidacy appear inevitable.
Note all the positive Trump polls, also note how they are not polling just the Right when talking about primaries.
The media is propping up trump for their own nefarious reasons.

Yes, it's killing the RINO', but it's also creating an illusion that the Right backs him for President.
Here's the truth, it's an legerdemain.

"Our latest national telephone survey finds that 57% of Likely Republican Voters now think Trump is likely to be the Republican presidential nominee next year, with 25% who say it's Very Likely. That compares to 27% who felt a Trump nomination was likely two months ago when he formally announced his presidential bid, a finding that included just nine percent (9%) who said it was Very Likely."

It's not that they support him, they're falling for the hype of inevitably.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_change

The MSM is very hard at work making him number one for a reason.  They must have something down the line they will drop about him.