Quote from: taxed on July 20, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
I think cubedemon would excel as a cheeseburger assembly engineer.  Just make sure he has a checklist of the steps within his sight.

And the cheese.   

Quote from: quiller on July 20, 2015, 03:27:03 PM
How competitive is THIS clod if he cannot use a search engine to find himself a job? Just what does he expect from life, demanding everything be handed to him?

What do I expect from life?   Obviously nothing, including others to be consistent and logical in their thoughts and ideas and to use critical thought.   

If our society is a competitive society then by the very definition of competition our society and other societies will have winners and losers.  The idea of competition is that some will be predestined to lose no matter what moves they make including using a search engine.  People don't always get what they want and need no matter what methods they use or how hard they try.   In fact, "life is not fair" is the concept that embodies this.

How does personal responsibility, internal locus of control  and the idea that we control our own destinies hold up at all?  The belief is if I lose then it is my fault that I lose and I'm to blame no matter the circumstances.   How can some individuals be at fault and responsible for their own loss if the idea of competition is that there will be winners and losers, life is not fair, which means some are predestined to lose.  It's like saying that we create our own predestination and based upon both concepts which are opposite to each other how does both contradictory concepts hold up at the same time?   

If some are predestined to lose then how is it always true that a person causes their own failure?   

I'm not whining nor complaining.  I'm disputing American beliefs and questioning them.   American logic and beliefs do not stand up to rationality and logic whatsoever and is riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies. 

By the way, how do you know I haven't tried the search answer and the information I found to me was confusing, made so sense, contradictory and again made absolutely no sense.   

I don't quote lazy fools too self-indulgent to fix their own problems. Grow up, boy.

Quote from: cubedemon on July 23, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
What do I expect from life?   Obviously nothing, including others to be consistent and logical in their thoughts and ideas and to use critical thought.   

If our society is a competitive society then by the very definition of competition our society and other societies will have winners and losers.  The idea of competition is that some will be predestined to lose no matter what moves they make including using a search engine.  People don't always get what they want and need no matter what methods they use or how hard they try.   In fact, "life is not fair" is the concept that embodies this.

How does personal responsibility, internal locus of control  and the idea that we control our own destinies hold up at all?  The belief is if I lose then it is my fault that I lose and I'm to blame no matter the circumstances.   How can some individuals be at fault and responsible for their own loss if the idea of competition is that there will be winners and losers, life is not fair, which means some are predestined to lose.  It's like saying that we create our own predestination and based upon both concepts which are opposite to each other how does both contradictory concepts hold up at the same time?   

If some are predestined to lose then how is it always true that a person causes their own failure?   

I'm not whining nor complaining.  I'm disputing American beliefs and questioning them.   American logic and beliefs do not stand up to rationality and logic whatsoever and is riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies. 

By the way, how do you know I haven't tried the search answer and the information I found to me was confusing, made so sense, contradictory and again made absolutely no sense.

Life is a matter of perspective, if you think you're a loser, then by God, you're a loser.
Ask a poor man whom just finally paid off his car, he will tell you he is successful, but ask a rich man that can't find love, and he'll probably say he is unhappy.

Point is, it's how you view your station in life.
Myself, I couldn't have a more blessed life, but I'd rather be running the country, and that'll never happen, I have to accept that as part of my limitations, but if I were to focus on it, try and fail, and repeat, then I doubt I'd be happy due to failure.
So I accept my limitations and work within my restrictions, which I do and I'm quite happy with that.

Recognize your limits and focus on your abilities, to do otherwise?

Quote from: quiller on July 23, 2015, 07:30:01 PM
I don't quote lazy fools too self-indulgent to fix their own problems. Grow up, boy.

More Ad Hominem Attacks!  Wow!

Even Charles Sykes says in rule eight of the rules won't learn in school "Your school may have done away with winners and losers but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades, they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer.  This, of course, bears not the slightest resemblance to anything in real life."

This is a truism that is accepted as fact and is fact.   Again, by the idea of this some are predestined to win and some are predestined to lose.   If this is true then are we all to blame for our own circumstances no matter what the circumstances are?   Can everyone be responsible, work hard, overcome obstacles and win.   Can anyone and everyone be winners in American Society?   If not and if life is not fair holds up and some will lose holds up as fact then by logic working hard, being responsible and making the right decisions doesn't always work. 

Either he is correct in what he says and some our predestined to fail in life no matter what decisions they make or our destines are determined by the choices we make in our life?   People seem to accept both propositions as truth and to accept both as true means you accept diametrically opposing beliefs at the same which means American beliefs are a form of double think like in Orwell's 1984.  You believe contrary ideas as both true.

I should add, I don't even READ the sniveling from self-indulgent children too lazy to fix their own problems. Whine me a river. It's wasted effort.

Quote from: cubedemon on July 23, 2015, 08:01:23 PM
More Ad Hominem Attacks!  Wow!

 

I did not see that as a Ad Hominem Attack.  I think he told you where the bear shits in the woods.

Quote from: cubedemon on July 23, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
What do I expect from life?

Who cares.

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   Obviously nothing, including others to be consistent and logical in their thoughts and ideas and to use critical thought.   

I'd be lying if I said I care what someone with the skill-cap of a cheeseburger assembler thinks, about anything, ever.

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If our society is a competitive society then by the very definition of competition our society and other societies will have winners and losers.

Gee, what amazing observation.

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  The idea of competition is that some will be predestined to lose no matter what moves they make including using a search engine.

Wrong.  Competition makes people strong.  Person A beats person B, then person B works harder to beat person A.  You, on the other hand, roll over and cry about how unfair life is.  Your parents need a mulligan.

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  People don't always get what they want and need no matter what methods they use or how hard they try.   In fact, "life is not fair" is the concept that embodies this.

That's a good thing.  People need to earn what they want.

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How does personal responsibility, internal locus of control  and the idea that we control our own destinies hold up at all?

For me, very well.  Not so much for those I knew who blew away their 20s.  You can't whine your way to success.

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  The belief is if I lose then it is my fault that I lose and I'm to blame no matter the circumstances.

That's not a belief, it's a reality.

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   How can some individuals be at fault and responsible for their own loss if the idea of competition is that there will be winners and losers, life is not fair, which means some are predestined to lose.  It's like saying that we create our own predestination and based upon both concepts which are opposite to each other how does both contradictory concepts hold up at the same time?

You'd make a great Scientology member.  You have no marketable skill at all, yet you complain about your lack of success.  Put some work into learning something like the rest of us normal people.

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If some are predestined to lose then how is it always true that a person causes their own failure?   

You're saying people are pre-destined to lose.

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I'm not whining nor complaining.

Yeah, and Oprah at a buffet is just "snacking".

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  I'm disputing American beliefs and questioning them.

Take that energy and do something.

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   American logic and beliefs do not stand up to rationality and logic whatsoever and is riddled with contradictions and inconsistencies. 

Speak for yourself.  You should probably move to another country.

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By the way, how do you know I haven't tried the search answer and the information I found to me was confusing, made so sense, contradictory and again made absolutely no sense.

Because you're not the first lazy person to complain about our evil capitalist system.

Quote from: walkstall on July 23, 2015, 08:13:44 PM
I did not see that as a Ad Hominem Attack.  I think he told you where the bear shits in the woods.

Ad hominem attacks? Yeah. Right.

I held my first regular paying job in eighth grade. Why can't this bawling brat?

Quote from: quiller on July 23, 2015, 09:05:38 PM

Great verse, quiller.....  full of poignant truth !

I wonder how many people here have had any contact with people who have Autism or even understand what it is.   

Quote from: Dori on July 24, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
I wonder how many people here have had any contact with people who have Autism or even understand what it is.

I do, but cannot expose it on this forum.

Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 11:21:14 AM
I do, but cannot expose it on this forum.

Me too. I used to let the Kaplin foundation for autistic children bring their group to my business and perform menial tasks to the best of their abilities.
Granted, these kids were severe cases, but it gives one a new perspective on an individuals abilities as well as disabilities.
One thing they all shared, was a need to try new things, some even refused to stop once they mastered the chore.
One kid refused to stop sweeping once he understood it's purpose. Never had a cleaner parking lot.

Quote from: Dori on July 24, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
I wonder how many people here have had any contact with people who have Autism or even understand what it is.

One of my close friends has a kid with autism.  Also, my sister ran a house for autistic kids.  I heard a lot about it first hand from her.  Even stuff like how when one of them would freak out, she'd have to do manuver with them and do a roll with them on the ground until they calm down.  There's an element of danger to it I remember.  Autistic kids can't just hop on a computer, log into a forum with a username, find the right forum, then post about how the US and da evil capitalism be keepin dem down.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Then you have the rare rain-man like guys, or even like Jacob Barnett who is in his teens and disproving Einstein's theories and teaching astrophysics.  Trust me, cubedemon isn't that one.