Quote from: Solar on July 19, 2015, 03:48:54 PM
See Reply #235.

Yea! I read that! He is a real jerk but it doesn't reduce what he did or went through during the war! McCain hides behind his war status which is also wrong!

Quote from: redbeard on July 19, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
Yea! I read that! He is a real jerk but it doesn't reduce what he did or went through during the war! McCain hides behind his war status which is also wrong!

So, you say he "uses" his war status to accomplish ulterior motives?  Do real heroes do that?

Do you think WWII vets would make a practice of that?

Quote from: kroz on July 19, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
So, you say he "uses" his war status to accomplish ulterior motives?  Do real heroes do that?

Do you think WWII vets would make a practice of that?

Some did! Bob Dole? Jessie Ventura?

Quote from: redbeard on July 19, 2015, 04:43:18 PM
Some did! Bob Dole? Jessie Ventura?

Good point...... but both are "politicians" with questionable judgement!   

It's funny listed ng to the media and Trump's competition trying to make hay out of this.

They all care that the leading RINO was insulted but they all are silent when McCain insults a huge percentage of the Republican voting base "wackobirds and crazies"

Quote from: carlb on July 19, 2015, 04:48:14 PM
It's funny listed ng to the media and Trump's competition trying to make hay out of this.

They all care that the leading RINO was insulted but they all are silent when McCain insults a huge percentage of the Republican voting base "wackobirds and crazies"

Typical media double standard....... nothing new about that!

And now he's almost out.

Trump needs to STFU or have his  mouth sewn shut for him, he overstepped his bounds this time.

What the Hell were you doing Trump when McCain was flying missions IN THE SERVICE OF HIS COUNTRY? Were you riding some kind of deferrment? Or were you a 4-F? You have no business mocking McCain's MILITARY SERVICE.

I dislike McCain and consider him a Has Been RINO but as a Vietnam Vet I respect his service and his ordeal and ALWAYS WILL....mocking his service AND HIS SACRIFICE HE ENDURED in that service just lowered Trump into almost Lib-like status.

Those of us who are Vets will remember....not that I'd ever vote for Trump.....

Suddenly t he left is defending McCain.

Quote from: Solar on July 19, 2015, 02:21:11 PM
But what qualifies him as a hero? Did he save lives in prison, is there more to the story?
I did hear one version that claimed he refused to leave others behind when offered in a trade for freedom, but another POW called it bull and lies, that Johnny had made concessions for better treatment.

Anyone know the truth?

Lots of people said lots of things about McCain, who really knows the truth.....I know this much...McCain was tortured and starved to make him sign a confession....he never did, some of those guys did....can't say I blame them...you'll do anything under torture even though as a Military man you are forbidden to do so.

Second, He put a lot of effort into finding and locating the remains of lots of MIA AMERICAN pilots and servicemen who were shot down, captured and killed, his efforts allowed many teams to enter Vietnam and Laos to recover American servicemen's remains, returned them home for a proper Burial, gave their families a lot of closure.

As a Viet Vet I respect him for that..

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 19, 2015, 07:11:54 PM

Lots of people said lots of things about McCain, who really knows the truth.....I know this much...McCain was tortured and starved to make him sign a confession....he never did, some of those guys did....can't say I blame them...you'll do anything under torture even though as a Military man you are forbidden to do so.

Second, He put a lot of effort into finding and locating the remains of lots of MIA AMERICAN pilots and servicemen who were shot down, captured and killed, his efforts allowed many teams to enter Vietnam and Laos to recover American servicemen's remains, returned them home for a proper Burial, gave their families a lot of closure.

As a Viet Vet I respect him for that..

All too much has gone unanswered, more questions created than answered.

See Reply #235

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 19, 2015, 07:11:54 PM

Lots of people said lots of things about McCain, who really knows the truth.....I know this much...McCain was tortured and starved to make him sign a confession....he never did, some of those guys did....can't say I blame them...you'll do anything under torture even though as a Military man you are forbidden to do so.

Second, He put a lot of effort into finding and locating the remains of lots of MIA AMERICAN pilots and servicemen who were shot down, captured and killed, his efforts allowed many teams to enter Vietnam and Laos to recover American servicemen's remains, returned them home for a proper Burial, gave their families a lot of closure.

As a Viet Vet I respect him for that..

Everyone basically agrees with ya... on paper.  But McCain's constantly running-his-mouth-off against Trump's immigration stance and misrepresented illegal-immigrant comments.  Now McCain will have to think twice about calling candidates and their supporters 'crazy'.  Once can be overlooked.  Twice is an epidemic. 

Thanks for your service. 

No Trump slump for his McCain remarks.....

http://whotv.com/2015/07/20/weekend-iowa-poll-no-trump-slump-for-mccain-remarks/

His poll numbers just continue to grow......  well, at least they are not going down!   

Quote from: kroz on July 19, 2015, 04:45:51 PM
Good point...... but both are "politicians" with questionable judgement!   

Bear in mind, that good judgement we associate with elected officials is a learned skill. We have an Congress and White House full of politicians of good judgement and stellar resumes,  politicians who rarely, if utter a word out of turn.

I think it is safe to say if we had a Congress made up 51% of Donald Trump and like personas, the Obama history would tell quite a different story than it is going to tell.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43%
's (R-AZ) 2008 presidential campaign, weighed in on the dispute between McCain and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, posting a message on her Facebook page calling both men heroes and encouraging them to "resolve the media-driven wedge between them."

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/07/20/sarah-palin-donald-trump-and-john-mccain-both-heroes-should-apologize/