Ya gotta love it, the Establishment just can't pull it together, simply because no one wants a damned RINO.

Several key 2016 contenders — Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Mike Huckabee — had decided against dishing out the big bucks that it can take to win the straw poll. Party officials needed at least one legitimate player to participate, but the Iowa frontrunner, Scott Walker, declined to commit or even signal any interest.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/06/12/iowa-straw-poll/71116276/

 

Quote from: taxed on June 12, 2015, 11:30:22 AM

Somehow they even blame Walker, and he hasn't even committed yet, has he?

Gee, after Iowa had them all set up so perfectly to spend big money to win that one, they declined. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates would form a protective association, a little union, if I might, with the mission of designing the way to deliver the candidate whose views most reflected the members of the Party?

It is old news that FOX intends to run two debates of 10 each. One debate for the top tier candidates, another for the second string.  The nerve!

This is good news as I have wondered for a long time why Iowa is so important in the GOP nominating process. I would like to know the whole story as to how this decision came about.

RINO for decades used this poll to lock their choice as the lead candidate, but not any longer.
The RINO candidates knew quite well they were going to be exposed for the posers they are once the results came in, so.... They bailed on the whole idea.

That's what really took place in Iowa, the Establishment got it's worthless ass kicked to the curb!

Quote from: red_dirt on June 12, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Gee, after Iowa had them all set up so perfectly to spend big money to win that one, they declined. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates would form a protective association, a little union, if I might, with the mission of designing the way to deliver the candidate whose views most reflected the members of the Party?

It is old news that FOX intends to run two debates of 10 each. One debate for the top tier candidates, another for the second string.  The nerve!

May I offer my professional experience here and say that if anyone tries to inflict 20 speakers on an audience in a single day-gone-evening, that (1) no TV except C-SPAN and only MAYBE the clowns at NPR would cover it, whereupon (2) that same coverage would be severely edited and doctored to the whims of the final broadcasters.

Moral? Catch it on the news, if you absolutely must endure the posturing and platitudes and media poltroons stirring us up in our politicized frenzy.

They never show how stiff people are after enduring that sort of tent-revival. The nerve, indeed! Cutting it both makes sense and infuriates reason. I side with the folks having to sit through it. I've done it for money, but I'll never do it again. I can stand only so much of any topic before I go berserk. Even in Iowa, there's just plain got to be a limit.

Quote from: red_dirt on June 12, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Gee, after Iowa had them all set up so perfectly to spend big money to win that one, they declined. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates would form a protective association, a little union, if I might, with the mission of designing the way to deliver the candidate whose views most reflected the members of the Party?

It is old news that FOX intends to run two debates of 10 each. One debate for the top tier candidates, another for the second string.  The nerve!

Soooo, who will be in charge of the poll, AP/GFK?

Problem is, polls lie, and as far as the nation is concerned, Cruz and Walker are the front runners, while all the RINO are literally third tier.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 01:29:42 PM
Problem is, polls lie, and as far as the nation is concerned, Cruz and Walker are the front runners, while all the RINO are literally third tier.

Yeah, and I think an internal pre-poll poll was going to show that Carson and Fiorina were going to mop-up the rest of the field as the only ones with a chance of joining Cruz and Walker in double-digits...

IOWA
Cruz... 16%
Walker 15% if running
Carson 12%
Fiorina  10%
next closest... 6%

Quote from: kit saginaw on June 12, 2015, 02:55:01 PM
Yeah, and I think an internal pre-poll poll was going to show that Carson and Fiorina were going to mop-up the rest of the field as the only ones with a chance of joining Cruz and Walker in double-digits...

IOWA
Cruz... 16%
Walker 15% if running
Carson 12%
Fiorina  10%
next closest... 6%

Bingo! That's exactly what I thought the truth looked like, and the RINO can't stand the light, like the vampire bastards they are.

Do you have a link to that poll?

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
Do you have a link to that poll?

I made-it-up, based on my guesswork from following a plethora of polls all Spring.

Quote from: kit saginaw on June 12, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
I made-it-up, based on my guesswork from following a plethora of polls all Spring.

LOL, link to the brain.
But aside from Carson, I'd say you're pretty damn close.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 03:27:32 PM
LOL, link to the brain.
But aside from Carson, I'd say you're pretty damn close.

I bumped Carson up because of the closeness of the Supreme Court's decision on commiecare.  It may be temporary, but he's quotable again... and his 'greatest hits' vid-clips are back.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 01:23:58 PM
That's what really took place in Iowa, the Establishment got it's worthless ass kicked to the curb!

That's what I'm hopin' for.

Interesting, Bush was the one who first closed the check book. He's the number one suspect when it comes to possibly buying the primary.  Front runner.

Quote from: kit saginaw on June 12, 2015, 08:39:33 PM
I bumped Carson up because of the closeness of the Supreme Court's decision on commiecare.  It may be temporary, but he's quotable again... and his 'greatest hits' vid-clips are back.

I still think he's a shill RINO plant, designed to draw votes away from Conservatives.
Though I don't think it's going to work, he has absolutely no experience outside of a hospital.