Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
He's very good at stating the obvious!  The so called "majority of Peace Loving Muslims, better start taking a stand for what is right.  If citizens of some country were to attack us, wouldn't we hold that country responsible!

The Egyptian president has shown some courage in speaking out against the radicals. He is a lone voice in the desert though.

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 05:04:48 AM
The Egyptian president has shown some courage in speaking out against the radicals. He is a lone voice in the desert though.

Watch how quickly Obama and his friends in the Muslim Brotherhood throw him under the bus!!!

Quote from: wally on January 10, 2015, 06:49:43 AM
Watch how quickly Obama and his friends in the Muslim Brotherhood throw him under the bus!!!

Hasn't Obama already done that by withholding funding from Egypt? Here we have a government that overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood and restored some semblance of stability to ME country. Stability is the last thing Obama desires.

Would it be insulting their Prophet, to point out he's guilty of rape, murder, theft and pedophilia?

Quote from: mdgiles on January 10, 2015, 10:39:07 AM
Would it be insulting their Prophet, to point out he's guilty of rape, murder, theft and pedophilia?

Would it be insulting to actual religions to mistake Islam for being one?

Allahu screws sheep.

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 08:23:25 AM
Hasn't Obama already done that by withholding funding from Egypt? Here we have a government that overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood and restored some semblance of stability to ME country. Stability is the last thing Obama desires.

Very true.  Chaos is a central goal of Obama.  Whether in the ME, or in America (illegals-border, Ferguson, Trayvon, Garner, etc.).

He hopes that it will yield progress for non- or anti-American interests.

Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 06:12:47 AM
One could lift selected quotes out of the Bible that presents the justification for crusades and holy war to spead Christianity throughout the world.  It would be either ignorant of stupid to think that it's a liberal narrative that most Christians do not support the Bible (or that they support every word of both the old and new testiments as being an instruction from God for them to slay the nonBelievers and subjegate the world under their control!

I do believe that it's a fact that most "Catholics" are Liberal, as are most Muslims.  I'm married to a Catholic, who is also a Teacher and a member of a Teacher Union.  Inspite of the stgerotypes, I can assure you that she is no Liberal!

If people believe in freedom and liberty above all else, it kind of puts God and religious teachings into a much better perspective!  Our Founders believed that our rights came from God and hense were (are) unalienable and no goverment (or religious hierarcy) can take those away.  Many of us in America still do believe this!  The furtherence of these rights promotes Liberty; the protection of these rights ensure Justice and the free exercise of these rights ensures Freedom for all of us.  One of the most basic (sacred) rights is the freedom of religion!

Christians take the old testament as a spiritual internal war with ones relationship With God, but whatever. Good Luck waiting for Islam to undergo a reformation, I guess all the innocent lives who are killed and the countries that are subverted and destroyed in the meantime are just acceptable sacrifices of that goal.

Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 12:14:18 AM
Christians take the old testament as a spiritual internal war with ones relationship With God, but whatever. Good Luck waiting for Islam to undergo a reformation, I guess all the innocent lives who are killed and the countries that are subverted and destroyed in the meantime are just acceptable sacrifices of that goal.

I have the answer. Conquer Islum, force conversion to Christianity, including a tax for life, accept the role of subservient at the threat of death.
Hell, its better than what they offer most Christians.
Oh, and if they refuse, stone them, then behead them. Do you think that would stop this senseless killing?

Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 12:14:18 AM
Christians take the old testament as a spiritual internal war with ones relationship With God, but whatever. Good Luck waiting for Islam to undergo a reformation, I guess all the innocent lives who are killed and the countries that are subverted and destroyed in the meantime are just acceptable sacrifices of that goal.

I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of modern thinking Muslims (we have many doctors, dentists, nurses etc. and there are educated Muslims throughout our society)have a similar view of the Quoran.  Our Liberal Media is already pointing out David Korech was a Christian religious cult Leader, as if there is some sort of moral equivilence or the magnitude of this sort of behavior on the fringes of the Christian community is some how equivelent to that in the worldwide nation of Islam.  True, we have our Christian nut cases, but they are not Terrorists trying to further the establishment of one world wide religious goverment (Caliphate) as our enemy is doing.  The left doesn't like facts!

Quote from: wally on January 12, 2015, 05:59:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of modern thinking Muslims (we have many doctors, dentists, nurses etc. and there are educated Muslims throughout our society)have a similar view of the Quoran.  Our Liberal Media is already pointing out David Korech was a Christian religious cult Leader, as if there is some sort of moral equivilence or the magnitude of this sort of behavior on the fringes of the Christian community is some how equivelent to that in the worldwide nation of Islam.  True, we have our Christian nut cases, but they are not Terrorists trying to further the establishment of one world wide religious goverment (Caliphate) as our enemy is doing.  The left doesn't like facts!

Some idiot on "Meet the Press" tried to equate this to the nut job that killed all those kids on that island in Norway in 2011.  His reasons he said were to save Western Europe from a Muslim takeover. 

Quote from: wally on January 12, 2015, 05:59:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of modern thinking Muslims (we have many doctors, dentists, nurses etc. and there are educated Muslims throughout our society)have a similar view of the Quoran.  Our Liberal Media is already pointing out David Korech was a Christian religious cult Leader, as if there is some sort of moral equivilence or the magnitude of this sort of behavior on the fringes of the Christian community is some how equivelent to that in the worldwide nation of Islam.  True, we have our Christian nut cases, but they are not Terrorists trying to further the establishment of one world wide religious goverment (Caliphate) as our enemy is doing.  The left doesn't like facts!

hah, as soon as Koresh has dozens  of private, inviolable (by the federal govt) mini-cities...........let me know.

You saw what the feds in America do to people who think they're sovereign, in Waco and Ruby Ridge.

France & England have actually ceded a huge # of towns / cities that are now privately run by Imams.

You'd have to be immensely stupid to compare the Koresh debacle, to the actual sovereign muslim takeover of huge pieces of europe.

Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 05:22:31 AM
I have the answer. Conquer Islum, force conversion to Christianity, including a tax for life, accept the role of subservient at the threat of death.
Hell, its better than what they offer most Christians.
Oh, and if they refuse, stone them, then behead them. Do you think that would stop this senseless killing?

I've got a better answer. Tax all religious organizations the way you would any corporation - in fact, do away with "non-profits" totally.

Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 08:22:42 AM
I've got a better answer. Tax all religious organizations the way you would any corporation - in fact, do away with "non-profits" totally.

It would never, ever get applied to pro-Obama churches and pastors.

They would certainly try to finagle the wording to apply to everybody but them, though.

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 12, 2015, 08:25:16 AM
It would never, ever get applied to pro-Obama churches and pastors.

They would certainly try to finagle the wording to apply to everybody but them, though.

That is only part of the equation.

Nearly all of the IRS attacks on Conservative groups have been due to  their tax exempt status. If they are not tax exempt, the IRS can't hold that 501(c) status over their head like the Sword of Damocles!

If I were starting a political organization today (or a religion for that matter) no way would I file for tax exempt status.

Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 08:32:27 AM
That is only part of the equation.

Nearly all of the IRS attacks on Conservative groups have been due to  their tax exempt status. If they are not tax exempt, the IRS can't hold that 501(c) status over their head like the Sword of Damocles!

If I were starting a political organization today (or a religion for that matter) no way would I file for tax exempt status.

Better answer would be a Fair Tax system, completely usurping govts ability to discriminate.