Quote from: keyboarder on January 08, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
The carnage in Germany was what I had in mind when I said these words.  It's still hard for me to imagine why people were so stupid as to fall for any of Hitler's bull but there are explanations for it.  The same can be said of the millions that have fallen for Obola's crap.  It does not take much effort to accept enslavement when you don't have a job, no money, you are cold or your children are sick.  Nevermind that the reason you are undergoing changes that brought about the strife and forget that you couldn't have found anything out that would have helped shed light on the problems due to censorship.   Ok, I get all that about the folks in Germany but in light of all that is known about that time in history, why in hell would we have people in today's time period that just refuse to connect the dots as far as the parallel between the situations?  It doesn't even take a pHD to reason out anything that's going on out here in the world.  The world is a very dangerous place right now and we need for people to wake up and see all the progressiveness/liberalism for what it is.  I have faith and hope that this will come to pass.

I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else.  Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.

Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level".  It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.

I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence.  It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened.  Really, what they allowed to happen.  That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else.  Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.

Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level".  It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.

I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence.  It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened.  Really, what they allowed to happen.  That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.

Obama is the first POTUS from the gimme generation that had everything handed to him. He grew up tutored in Marxism, the evils of capitalism and how terribly unfair and unjust the American history has been since the days of colonialization and slavery. 

In other words, Obama represented the first American POTUS with an Ivy League education provided by teachers who were the radicals of the sixties!

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else.  Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.

Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level".  It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.

I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence.  It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened.  Really, what they allowed to happen.  That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.

That is probably Post Of The Year, so far. 

Without a doubt he'll be a laughingstock for future generations... because long-term History doesn't scold the voters.  It'll assume obama-voters suffered the consequences of their horrible mistake.  It'll harshly criticize the media instead, though I'm not sure which scandals will remain inextricably entwined with obama's legacy.

Each President has incidents of media zealotry; pro or con.

QuoteBill Donohue, President of the Catholic League, decried the violence of the Charlie Hebdo massacre on his organization's website, but contended the French satirical magazine brought the attack on itself by publishing offensive cartoons. Donohue started by saying that the killing, "must be unequivocally condemned" but "neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction."

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry

Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 04:29:24 PM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry

wow, what an asshole, say I as a Catholic.

That's one of the problems with the Church today.  Pushed along by Francis, they are eager to embrace the fascism of the left, pretending that it has something to do with Jesus' messages to help the poor, or whatever else.

There's a reason why the founders and constitution thought that a free society needed the freedom to say whatever they damn well please (that can't be proven to cause quantifiable damages).

Because every dictatorship and fascist state always starts with outlawing what the rulers declare "wrong".  Basically anything that doesn't praise the rulers.

How damned stupid do you need to be, to not realize that outlawing "offensive" or "provoking" is the absolute  basis of this fascism.  "Offensive / provoking" immediately becomes "whatever the rulers don't like".  And a quick trip to jail for all dissenters.

I mean hell, we've only seen it play out in every socialist / communist country in the last century.  Today's morons are always certain that they're smarter than yesterday's morons, and that they've perfected what was obviously stupid the previous 1000 times.

Quote from: kit saginaw on January 08, 2015, 02:46:15 PM
That is probably Post Of The Year, so far. 

Without a doubt he'll be a laughingstock for future generations... because long-term History doesn't scold the voters.  It'll assume obama-voters suffered the consequences of their horrible mistake.  It'll harshly criticize the media instead, though I'm not sure which scandals will remain inextricably entwined with obama's legacy.

Each President has incidents of media zealotry; pro or con.

haha, POTY for 8 days  !!

I'm not sure if laughingstock is the correct description of what it will be, when the cards are laid on the table.

Mainly because we're talking treason, sedition, a friggin' mole that sat in the oval office, dedicated to wrecking America.

More like a damned Tom Clancy novel that happened in real life America, rather than something to laugh at.

Maybe the worst days of America.  Though as I like to say when being positive........FDR and Wilson were worse.  We at least had some new media and a little better legal protection from Obama, which was almost completely buried during those guys' attempted socialist dictatorships.

Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Obama is the first POTUS from the gimme generation that had everything handed to him. He grew up tutored in Marxism, the evils of capitalism and how terribly unfair and unjust the American history has been since the days of colonialization and slavery. 

In other words, Obama represented the first American POTUS with an Ivy League education provided by teachers who were the radicals of the sixties!

I think the Clintons really beat him to it.  Granted, Obama's worse with his obvious hatred for America going back to 1776.

But the Clintons are the first people in the WH who actually embraced Alinsky, the 70's commies of academia, the murderous criminals like SDS and Weather Underground and Black Panthers.

Bubba is probably just amenable to anything that gets him a steak dinner, drunk / high, and some sweet young 'tang.  Which would be whatever Hillary's bringing half the time.  She's the real hard core commie idealogue.

Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 04:29:24 PM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry

Idiot......Yeah Muslims may have a "right" to be angry but this Jerkoff almost sounds like he thinks they have JUSTIFICATION to go out an slaughter a dozen innocent people because they are angry.

BUT I must say that the French indeed have brought this on themselves for adopting their moronic policy of appeasement to Muslim terrorists since the days they harboured the Ayattollah Khomeni. They have allowed their Muslim population to grow to around 20% and almost uncheck immigration, they have also turned a blind eye to Sharia Law that trumps in some sort of "Islamic zone"

snip~
Revenge attacks and retaliation begin: Mosques come under fire with guns and 'grenades' in France... and kebab shop near another Muslim temple is blown up.

more @
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q

Quote from: walkstall on January 08, 2015, 09:42:53 PM
snip~
Revenge attacks and retaliation begin: Mosques come under fire with guns and 'grenades' in France... and kebab shop near another Muslim temple is blown up.

more @
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q

Ironically there will be torch-marches in empathy for these muslims whereas the terrorist attacks will be blamed on the French themselves, as that Catholic League president has already done.

On the subject of Obama; do any of you remember the Christian woman they were going to execute in Sudan as an apostate? Story is because her father was a Muslim, she had to be one also according to the Koran, even though she had been raised by her mother as a Christian, after her Muslim father had abandoned them. So question; Obama's father was also a Muslim, has anyone ever heard of a fatwa calling for his death as an apostate? Yeah I thought so. Now why is that. Muscum holy men are always calling for the death of this Christian and that apostate, but never for Obozo. That fact demands an explanation.

Quote from: mdgiles on January 09, 2015, 06:55:52 AM
On the subject of Obama; do any of you remember the Christian woman they were going to execute in Sudan as an apostate? Story is because her father was a Muslim, she had to be one also according to the Koran, even though she had been raised by her mother as a Christian, after her Muslim father had abandoned them. So question; Obama's father was also a Muslim, has anyone ever heard of a fatwa calling for his death as an apostate? Yeah I thought so. Now why is that. Muscum holy men are always calling for the death of this Christian and that apostate, but never for Obozo. That fact demands an explanation.

Muslims are allowed to lie to nonBelievers to further the faith of Islam, according to the Quran

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
Muslims are allowed to lie to nonBelievers to further the faith of Islam, according to the Quran

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

The doctrine of Taqiyya. Understood. And how exactly, are all Moslems supposed to know he's one of them? Did he give the secret hi sign, or what. In any case, that would be an excellent way to destroy him as a political rival. Hillary Clinton doesn't strike me as that nice or that stupid, so why didn't she bring it up? Especially now. Someone should stand up and ask the press secretary that question, just to watch them squirm.

Quote from: mdgiles on January 09, 2015, 11:27:07 AM
The doctrine of Taqiyya. Understood. And how exactly, are all Moslems supposed to know he's one of them? Did he give the secret hi sign, or what. In any case, that would be an excellent way to destroy him as a political rival. Hillary Clinton doesn't strike me as that nice or that stupid, so why didn't she bring it up? Especially now. Someone should stand up and ask the press secretary that question, just to watch them squirm.

interesting email from my Uncle may shed a bitg of light about this.. "A nod's as good as a wink, to a blind horse"!



Like water dripping on a
stone, they are slowly but surely taking our country, and we just can't
see it. Or, won't see it. > > > Date: November 15, 2014 10:52:28 AM EST
> > > OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT TOP U.S. MILITARY BRASS > > In a fit of
rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint
all of Islam with the same brush!" > > Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama
threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the
bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic
State (ISIS) to Islam. > > His tantrum reportedly took place in the
afternoon of last week just prior to the president's departure to Camp
David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to
take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very
brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked
out of the room. > > The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing
moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood
continued to indicate he was still very upset. > > The senior adviser
made a couple of pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives,
reminded them the president had already had a very busy day, and then
both she and the president once again left the room. Within seconds,
Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at
the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how "inappropriate" it
was to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." The president
repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His
voice carried to several other West Wing offices. > > The senior
adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the
briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president's
personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone "we're done here"
which she repeated several times and then led the president back out
into the hallway. > > "There are none so blind as those who will not
see." > -------------------- > > When you read this you will understand
why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam.".. > > I didn't
originate this, but it checked out with Google and Snopes. > > Did you
know that we now have a Muslim government? > > John Brennan, current
head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. > >
Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran
where her parents still live. > > Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma
Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now
outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. > > Assistant Secretary for Policy
Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim. > >
Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. > > Obama
advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam
al-Marayati, is a Muslim. > > Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid,
of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. > > Advisory
Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a
Muslim. > > And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack
Hussein Obama. > > It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the
oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly
to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed
he was given the oath again in private? > > CIA director John Brennan
took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible. > >
Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an. > > >
Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and
feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking
over our government. > > Considering all these appointments, it would
explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our
nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern
border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on
Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. > > The more damage
Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! > > Our nation and our
government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It can
only get worse! > > If you fail to pass this one on, there's something
wrong ...somewhere! >

Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 11:32:03 AM
interesting email from my Uncle may shed a bitg of light about this.. "A nod's as good as a wink, to a blind horse"!



Like water dripping on a
stone, they are slowly but surely taking our country, and we just can't
see it. Or, won't see it. > > > Date: November 15, 2014 10:52:28 AM EST
> > > OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT TOP U.S. MILITARY BRASS > > In a fit of
rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint
all of Islam with the same brush!" > > Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama
threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the
bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic
State (ISIS) to Islam. > > His tantrum reportedly took place in the
afternoon of last week just prior to the president's departure to Camp
David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to
take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very
brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked
out of the room. > > The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing
moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood
continued to indicate he was still very upset. > > The senior adviser
made a couple of pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives,
reminded them the president had already had a very busy day, and then
both she and the president once again left the room. Within seconds,
Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at
the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how "inappropriate" it
was to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." The president
repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His
voice carried to several other West Wing offices. > > The senior
adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the
briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president's
personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone "we're done here"
which she repeated several times and then led the president back out
into the hallway. > > "There are none so blind as those who will not
see." > -------------------- > > When you read this you will understand
why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam.".. > > I didn't
originate this, but it checked out with Google and Snopes. > > Did you
know that we now have a Muslim government? > > John Brennan, current
head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. > >
Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran
where her parents still live. > > Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma
Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now
outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. > > Assistant Secretary for Policy
Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim. > >
Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. > > Obama
advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam
al-Marayati, is a Muslim. > > Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid,
of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. > > Advisory
Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a
Muslim. > > And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack
Hussein Obama. > > It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the
oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly
to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed
he was given the oath again in private? > > CIA director John Brennan
took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible. > >
Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an. > > >
Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and
feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking
over our government. > > Considering all these appointments, it would
explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our
nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern
border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on
Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. > > The more damage
Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! > > Our nation and our
government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It can
only get worse! > > If you fail to pass this one on, there's something
wrong ...somewhere! >

The solution to this is simple. We elect a conservative as the next president of the US.