http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ten-dead-in-shooting-at-french-satirical-weekly/ar-AA7Spbm (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ten-dead-in-shooting-at-french-satirical-weekly/ar-AA7Spbm)
The Muscum said they would change to soft targets (in Europe and the US). France has been a Leader in the European Model of Appeasement to the threats of Muscum Extremists (even allowing elements of Sharia Law, within their ghettos (yes, Europe still employs the Ghetto system of isolation, rather than assimilation)... See what you get from kissing the ass of the Phophet!
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 04:49:00 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ten-dead-in-shooting-at-french-satirical-weekly/ar-AA7Spbm (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ten-dead-in-shooting-at-french-satirical-weekly/ar-AA7Spbm)
The Muscum said they would change to soft targets (in Europe and the US). France has been a Leader in the European Model of Appeasement to the threats of Muscum Extremists (even allowing elements of Sharia Law, within their ghettos (yes, Europe still employs the Ghetto system of isolation, rather than assimilation)... See what you get from kissing the ass of the Phophet!
Kissing their ass only makes you a target. Not a hard concept to learn.
Quote from: s3779m on January 07, 2015, 04:57:48 AM
Kissing their ass only makes you a target. Not a hard concept to learn.
AGREED! Kind of scary (for us) since Obama has been Kissing Ass ever since his World Apology Tour! (makes you wonder how Barry ever got along in the schoolyard; Oh, I forgot..he recruited some manly muscle to back him up, in the Chum Gang! Little Barry probably got them weed and they kept people from beating his ass)
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 05:18:49 AM
AGREED! Kind of scary (for us) since Obama has been Kissing Ass ever since his World Apology Tour! (makes you wonder how Barry ever got along in the schoolyard; Oh, I forgot..he recruited some manly muscle to back him up, in the Chum Gang! Little Barry probably got them weed and they kept people from beating his ass)
Don't forget how much ass cliton kissed. that didn't turn out so well either.
Quote from: s3779m on January 07, 2015, 06:24:59 AM
Don't forget how much ass cliton kissed. that didn't turn out so well either.
AND...Jimmy Carter, who sponsored "jihad" in Afghanistan...you know, back when Osama Bin Laden was one of the good guys on our side! (If only the Shah had kept hold of the Middle East, using whatever means he felt we're necessary to protect our common interests (His and ours). Oh well, I guess mass murders and endless wars are much better than supporting someone who was designated as a violator of human rights....wait a minute; aren't we dong that right now with the Obama Foreign Policy...enmasse!
Just saw where the white house is not calling this an act of terrorism. This man is a disgrace and shows it every time he opens his mouth.
And this pathetic excuse for an administration refuses to call it an ISLAMIC terrorist attack. And Kerry is going to speak about it because Obama is too busy praying to Allah and golfing. Funny how when Boko Haram (spelling?) does something in Africa, Michelle starts Twitter campaigns and does commercials. But something happens to white people in Europe and the pres can't even be troubled to make a speech. What a disgusting excuse for a man.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on January 07, 2015, 07:37:59 AM
And this pathetic excuse for an administration refuses to call it an ISLAMIC terrorist attack. And Kerry is going to speak about it because Obama is too busy praying to Allah and golfing. Funny how when Boko Haram (spelling?) does something in Africa, Michelle starts Twitter campaigns and does commercials. But something happens to white people in Europe and the pres can't even be troubled to make a speech. What a disgusting excuse for a man.
When (you) got em by the balls; their hearts and minds will follow" Their hasn't yet been enough suffering caused by Liberalism (both economic and political). As more havoc is wreaked from misguided, corrupt and inept policies; the American people, as well as people of the world will rebel against their oppressors!
I only hope that history doesn't reapeat itself, allowing for an even more ruthless Tyrannt to exploit the situations 'created' by our goverment (and goverments like they have in France)
Did you notice how MSN, ever the Administration's lackey, even put terrorists in quotes in its headline?
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 07, 2015, 07:49:13 AM
Did you notice how MSN, ever the Administration's lackey, even put terrorists in quotes in its headline?
:rolleyes:
You mean the " Journalists " or the " Free Press " (fomerly know as "the Fourth Estate") :rolleyes:
Sarcasm (and pitch-black ill will) can't quite hit the note I seek when I say Islam ought to lay waste to the New York Times. Only then will leftists actually get it, that these islamoanimals deserve to be put down like the rabid running dogs they are.
It won't happen. They need their house organ in our (excuse the quotes) "news media."
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.fotki.com%2F1_p%2Crrqddstdtqkkwbtxbqfqsbrwqdbw%2Cvi%2Fdgbstgkbxbsrrkbwtfxwwkfkbqww%2F1%2F1595431%2F12754338%2Ftvnarratives-vi.jpg&hash=85fd965ea518fcc422fa0cdc20906a4b7adddccf)
Quote from: s3779m on January 07, 2015, 07:27:06 AM
Just saw where the white house is not calling this an act of terrorism. This man is a disgrace and shows it every time he opens his mouth.
Josh Ernest was on FNC and he walked back the original WH statement. He did call the attacks terrorism, but did label it what is was -Islamic terrorists.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 07, 2015, 08:10:12 AM
Josh Ernest was on FNC and he walked back the original WH statement. He did call the attacks terrorism, but did label it what is was -Islamic terrorists.
He and his silk-underwear'd ilk are disgustingly incompetent. I can't wait until actual adults are in-charge of the White House and State Department again. Wtf does 'condemn in strongest possible terms' mean??
Say: " This phoney religion called islam makes us
sick! "
Reading headlines on Yahoo news and they have "terrorist" in quotes and have "attack" in quotes on another. I hate PC crap like this. Not even PC, intentional lies and distortions from leftist scum.
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 07:52:02 AM
You mean the " Journalists " or the " Free Press " (fomerly know as "the Fourth Estate") :rolleyes:
The Fourth Estate has long since become The Fifth Column!
Quote from: Dr. Meh on January 07, 2015, 09:18:43 AM
Reading headlines on Yahoo news and they have "terrorist" in quotes and have "attack" in quotes on another. I hate PC crap like this. Not even PC, intentional lies and distortions from leftist scum.
What's surprising ?
The current president, AG, and entire media want daily losses for America and wins for any & all enemies, including islam, atheism, LGBTQ, racial strife, economic malaise, social decay, etc.
It's a 24/7/365 mosaic from the WH and MSM......every single word counts toward the goal of imploding America and aiding the enemy.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 07, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
It's a 24/7/365 mosaic from the WH and MSM......every single word counts toward the goal of imploding America and aiding the enemy.
This attack will be chilling on our media. Watch them turn into even bigger cowards. Dissing Allah is a problem for them, yet they have no trouble going after anything a Christian or Jew believes in.
This fear is how Islam is gaining a bigger footprint in western countries.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 07, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
What's surprising ?
The current president, AG, and entire media want daily losses for America and wins for any & all enemies, including islam, atheism, LGBTQ, racial strife, economic malaise, social decay, etc.
It's a 24/7/365 mosaic from the WH and MSM......every single word counts toward the goal of imploding America and aiding the enemy.
I never said it was surprising.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on January 07, 2015, 10:33:19 AM
I never said it was surprising.
It was just a generic observation that their dishonesty and tacit support / misinfo for the enemy.....is completely unsurprising.
But just so's we can argue.......YES YOU DID.
REPORT: French Police Have Identified The Three People Involved In Magazine Shooting
According to Metro, by Wednesday evening local time French law enforcement was aware of the names and birthdates of the alleged perpetrators. Metro reported one of the suspects is 34-years-old, another is 32-years-old, and the third is 18-years old.
The two older men are reportedly brothers, French citizens, and residents of Paris. Metro reported the younger man is a student whose nationality is unknown and has no fixed address.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/report-police-identified-three-people-involved-in-paris-shooting-2015-1#ixzz3OAbMbI8W (http://www.businessinsider.com/report-police-identified-three-people-involved-in-paris-shooting-2015-1#ixzz3OAbMbI8W)
Quote from: Dori on January 07, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
REPORT: French Police Have Identified The Three People Involved In Magazine Shooting
According to Metro, by Wednesday evening local time French law enforcement was aware of the names and birthdates of the alleged perpetrators. Metro reported one of the suspects is 34-years-old, another is 32-years-old, and the third is 18-years old.
The two older men are reportedly brothers, French citizens, and residents of Paris. Metro reported the younger man is a student whose nationality is unknown and has no fixed address.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/report-police-identified-three-people-involved-in-paris-shooting-2015-1#ixzz3OAbMbI8W (http://www.businessinsider.com/report-police-identified-three-people-involved-in-paris-shooting-2015-1#ixzz3OAbMbI8W)
This is a positive development. If true, it reflects again how appeasement in Europe has worked. Hopefully these heathens will be captured. Do you think this will cause France to rethink the death penalty? I am pretty sure Obama, Kerry, Jarrett, etc; did not learn a thing from this.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 07, 2015, 01:11:58 PM
This is a positive development. If true, it reflects again how appeasement in Europe has worked. Hopefully these heathens will be captured. Do you think this will cause France to rethink the death penalty? I am pretty sure Obama, Kerry, Jarrett, etc; did not learn a thing from this.
This would be called workplace or domestic violence by them in the U.S. We on have home grown terrorist in the U.S. :rolleyes:
The template is simple -
-Almost no muslims do this.
-This isn't really islam.
-All the muslims disapprove of this.
So......all is forgotten until the next one. Then roll out this bullshit again, rinse & repeat.
They could theoretically avoid any discussion of any terrorist attack ever, if we let this just be the standard exchange after each one.
Simplest taqquiyah ever.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 07, 2015, 12:04:59 PM
It was just a generic observation that their dishonesty and tacit support / misinfo for the enemy.....is completely unsurprising.
But just so's we can argue.......YES YOU DID.
Nu-uh!
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 04:49:00 AM
(even allowing elements of Sharia Law, within their ghettos (yes, Europe still employs the Ghetto system of isolation, rather than assimilation)... See what you get from kissing the ass of the Phophet!
French TV has been calling them
ghettos all day, occasionally saying 'housing projects'... as places where the killers were most-likely hiding...
Oop
real-time raid happening...
http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/20150107-france-anti-terror-raid-under-way-northeastern-city-reims-police/ (http://www.france24.com/en/breaking/20150107-france-anti-terror-raid-under-way-northeastern-city-reims-police/)
Said Kouachi, Cherif Kouachi and Hamyd Mourad? Sounds French to me. :rolleyes:
Multiculturalism doesn't work, especially with this crowd.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 07, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
What's surprising ?
The current president, AG, and entire media want daily losses for America and wins for any & all enemies, including islam, atheism, LGBTQ, racial strife, economic malaise, social decay, etc.
It's a 24/7/365 mosaic from the WH and MSM......every single word counts toward the goal of imploding America and aiding the enemy.
Not surprised here. Remember Obama called it back in 2012.
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam"http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/07/flashback-the-future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-the-prophet-of-islam/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/07/flashback-the-future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-the-prophet-of-islam/)
Quote from: jungle x on January 07, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Said Kouachi, Cherif Kouachi and Hamyd Mourad? Sounds French to me. :rolleyes:
Multiculturalism doesn't work, especially with this crowd.
I've got to say it, hate me if you will, but I'm looking forward to this being a weekly event in europe, especially france & england.
I'm sorry that somebody has to be the victims, but it's long overdue that they will realize the end game of such stupidity, dishonesty, political / social cheating, etc.
Of course we did have our own in Boston. But at least we're not nearly as far gone as they are in europe, just ripe for the picking.
Their undoing will save us from getting as bad as them. And hopefully lead to a crazy reprisal in europe against the murderous horde disguised as a religion. One that just makes us gasp and gawk.
I heard that two of the victims were unarmed police officers! The friggin Libs in this country (you know, the ones who love the Hamas and excuse the Terrorists) would like us to be more like France; disarming the Police and redistributing wealth from the producers to those who don't!
See what disarming the police gets you!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo (http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo)
Quote from: jungle x on January 07, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Said Kouachi, Cherif Kouachi and Hamyd Mourad? Sounds French to me. :rolleyes:
Multiculturalism doesn't work, especially with this crowd.
QuoteThe Associated Press reported in 2008 that Cherif Kouachi had been sentenced to three years in prison in Paris for helping to funnel prospective jihadi fighters from France to Iraq. He served 18 months, with the remainder of his sentence was suspended. In that case, Cherif was named as a member of the 19th arrondissement network, named for the mainly North African neighborhood where they were based.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/01/cherif-said-kouachi-hamid-mourad-charlie-hebdo-terror-attack/ (http://heavy.com/news/2015/01/cherif-said-kouachi-hamid-mourad-charlie-hebdo-terror-attack/)
Paris Attack Suspect Dead, Two in Custody, U.S. Officials Sayhttp://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-u-s-officials-say-n281761 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-u-s-officials-say-n281761)
Quote from: Dori on January 07, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
http://heavy.com/news/2015/01/cherif-said-kouachi-hamid-mourad-charlie-hebdo-terror-attack/ (http://heavy.com/news/2015/01/cherif-said-kouachi-hamid-mourad-charlie-hebdo-terror-attack/)
Paris Attack Suspect Dead, Two in Custody, U.S. Officials Say
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-u-s-officials-say-n281761 (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/paris-attack-suspect-dead-two-custody-u-s-officials-say-n281761)
I'm thinking...waterboarding (and/or other effetive enhanced interrogation methods might serve up the entire rats nest of coconspirators).
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
I'm thinking...waterboarding (and/or other effetive enhanced interrogation methods might serve up the entire rats nest of coconspirators).
Cook their ass in burning gas. (Well, it went something like that.)
Three points:
First, This should wake people up as to the spread of radical Islam and the threat it poses to EUROPE
Second, despite strict gun control in France, these guys were easily able to attain weapons, I understand both AK's and Shotguns were used. Note to the left.....yet another lesson.
Third, what the Hell???? THe Cops who wre assigned security weren;t armed??????? Yet another lesson for the left....
Thank God for our Second Amendment. Something to remember when these libs try to strip that right from you.
Had the police been armed, or had a citizen been armed, they could have put an end to this, and very possibly saved lives in the process.
There are lessons for the left all over the place with this tragedy.
1. Appeasement does not work, all it does is serve to embolden the enemies of liberty and freedom. (See Hitler and blitzkrieg, Chamberlain).
2. An armed populace is capable of defending itself. Both against terrorists such as this attack, and if God forbid, to protect themselves from a rogue government.
3. Once again we see the genius of our founders, who foresaw the need to ensure the populace was armed.
2.
Cartoonists around the world are publishing their support for Charlie Hebdo. Here's an early sample (with conservative Gary Varvel leading the pack).....
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FB6wlygwCMAEoPAG.png%3Alarge&hash=8daef7d7a4ae7c869b593f06cee361e886404cd2)
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27784392/illustrators-show-solidarity-with-charlie-hebdo-top-cartoons (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27784392/illustrators-show-solidarity-with-charlie-hebdo-top-cartoons)
Quote from: quiller on January 08, 2015, 02:54:40 AM
Cartoonists around the world are publishing their support for Charlie Hebdo. Here's an early sample (with conservative Gary Varvel leading the pack).....
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FB6wlygwCMAEoPAG.png%3Alarge&hash=8daef7d7a4ae7c869b593f06cee361e886404cd2)
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27784392/illustrators-show-solidarity-with-charlie-hebdo-top-cartoons (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27784392/illustrators-show-solidarity-with-charlie-hebdo-top-cartoons)
Some serious and well thought out work there.
Murdering members of the media, doesn't sit well with other members of the media!
(I wonder what the reaction would have been if it had been an attack on evil bankers)
This morning FNC is reporting that two suspects are still at large and one has turned himself in. It is not over yet. I hope that capture them so some intel can be gathered and show just how dangerous these heathens are.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 05:43:10 AM
. I hope that capture them so some intel can be gathered and show just how dangerous these heathens are.
drip...drip...drip.... waterboarding!
Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 06:00:53 AM
drip...drip...drip.... waterboarding!
Hmm... I don't think terrorism falls under the Geneva convention as I remember it.
Quote from: walkstall on January 08, 2015, 07:10:57 AM
Hmm... I don't think terrorism falls under the Geneva convention as I remember it.
As I remember, that was the legal advice (to Pres. Bush) of AG Alberto Gonzalz! Although factual and absolutely true; the spin doctors in the media allied themselves with the Democrats, who were for the war, before they were against it. They shouted loudly that Bush had better do everything he could to keep our nation safe, while scouring the record for any evidence that Bush had not done everything in his power, prior to 9/11...alla; the Presidential Daily Briefing fiasco.
The actual language of the Geneva Convention and other agreements regarding POW's, including "torture" and "unuiformed enemy combatants" has become as obscurred by politics, as the actual language of our Constitution!
Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2015, 04:50:39 AM
Some serious and well thought out work there.
Not bad, but again, still avoiding the islam part of it just like before.
What are they gonna demand ? That un-named people stop doing un-named things that contribute to workplace violence ? That'll really show the terrorists !
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 07:33:04 AM
Not bad, but again, still avoiding the islam part of it just like before.
What are they gonna demand ? That un-named people stop doing un-named things that contribute to workplace violence ? That'll really show the terrorists !
LOL AJ is there anything that will put a smile on your face.
Someone is fighting back in there own way.
Quote from: walkstall on January 08, 2015, 07:42:59 AM
LOL AJ is there anything that will put a smile on your face.
Someone is fighting back in there own way.
Nope. Resistance to my guile is futile.
"Fighting back" while maintaining the prohibition against saying anything about islam......is kind of hollow.
It's more likely to lead to self-censorship or some new MSM "ethics" that include "don't be rude to the noble muslims". (but do continue the noble fight against the colonialists and Christians)
Weren't the French security forces the ones who came up with attaching your genitals to a field telephone (the ones they crank up for power). In Algeria I believe. I'm sure they're someone around who still remembers how. Unlike us, Europeans expect their intelligence services to be vicious bastards.
I'm hoping this will be a tipping point.
Quote from: mdgiles on January 08, 2015, 08:40:18 AM
Weren't the French security forces the ones who came up with attaching your genitals to a field telephone (the ones they crank up for power). In Algeria I believe. I'm sure they're someone around who still remembers how. Unlike us, Europeans expect their intelligence services to be vicious bastards.
The French are much more secretive about what they may (or may not) be doing behind the scenes. ( remember The Foreign Legion as well as the French Resistance ) It's only on the surface they are snob nosed, better than Thou, Hypocrites!
Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 08, 2015, 09:12:21 AM
I'm hoping this will be a tipping point.
Probably will be for awhile. We seemed to get over 9-11 after several years.
Quote from: s3779m on January 08, 2015, 09:40:29 AM
Probably will be for awhile. We seemed to get over 9-11 after several years.
Will it wake up Europe? I looking forward to Mountainshield's take on this.
Quote from: wally on January 07, 2015, 04:49:00 AM
(yes, Europe still employs the Ghetto system of isolation, rather than assimilation)
Nope, Europe employs the complete opposite which is forced relocation and employment based on number of refugees in each Territory to encourage integration and diversity.
Immigrants and Refugees are required by Law to learn the language of host country and join the workforce, if they can't join the workforce voluntarily they are required to attend work shops seminars and be placed in temporary jobs from time to time.
That the immigrants choose to live ghettos is their own damn choice, that they want to replicate Shitfuckedupistan in Europe is their own Choice, so take your Europe is racist theory and stick it up your ass which is where you found it :wink:
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 08, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
Nope, Europe employs the complete opposite which is forced relocation and employment based on number of refugees in each Territory to encourage integration and diversity.
Immigrants and Refugees are required by Law to learn the language of host country and join the workforce, if they can't join the workforce voluntarily they are required to attend work shops seminars and be placed in temporary jobs from time to time.
That the immigrants choose to live ghettos is their own damn choice, that they want to replicate Shitfuckedupistan in Europe is their own Choice, so take your Europe is racist theory and stick it up your ass which is where you found it :wink:
Touchy!
Do I sense the Outrage of a Parisian? :rolleyes:
Quote from: mdgiles on January 08, 2015, 08:40:18 AM
Weren't the French security forces the ones who came up with attaching your genitals to a field telephone (the ones they crank up for power). In Algeria I believe. I'm sure they're someone around who still remembers how. Unlike us, Europeans expect their intelligence services to be vicious bastards.
I have one of those generators, I can crank up 90 volts DC is seconds, and I have no idea of the amperage they generate, but I know it's enough to completely incapacitate you in seconds.
Probably because it forces your balls up into your throat and you can no longer breathe. :biggrin:
Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 10:13:37 AM
Touchy!
Do I sense the Outrage of a Parisian? :rolleyes:
Nope, but Europe is bending over backwards taking it harder than a thai prostitute to create integration, so your whole theory is false :tounge: And I'm a Trønder not a parisian :laugh:
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 08, 2015, 09:42:54 AM
Will it wake up Europe? I looking forward to Mountainshield's take on this.
Thanks :smile: I think based on polls and electoral results Europe is becoming more polarized as some are waking up and others are getting more entrenched in leftism. Terrorist acts like this are not unique, most muslims f*ck up their attacks so I guess it is unique in its carnage.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 07:53:04 AM
Nope. Resistance to my guile is futile.
"Fighting back" while maintaining the prohibition against saying anything about islam......is kind of hollow.
It's more likely to lead to self-censorship or some new MSM "ethics" that include "don't be rude to the noble muslims". (but do continue the noble fight against the colonialists and Christians)
Hate to say I told ya so, so quickly..........but Stewart & Conan & NYT are already beating the drum of "stop insulting the prophet". Apparently the NYT had a screaming column yesterday morning blaming everything on the cartoonists, and they had to retract it later in the day after massive outrage.
But you know that retractions / apologies are never true from Alinsky-taqquiyah land. They'll be back to say the same thing in a week after the first one's forgotten.
Quote from: Bronx on January 07, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
Not surprised here. Remember Obama called it back in 2012.
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam"
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/07/flashback-the-future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-the-prophet-of-islam/ (http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/07/flashback-the-future-must-not-belong-to-those-who-slander-the-prophet-of-islam/)
Yep, we got that and he mean't every miserable word of it. Knew he did when these words left his pie hole. What I don't get is this.......There are just too many stupid people that do not understand what this means for them and it'll be a sad day when it finally sinks in on them. I have zero tolerance for a liberal at this point but I will have nothing but contempt for any of them once all this progressiveness gets a firm foothold here.
Quote from: keyboarder on January 08, 2015, 10:39:09 AM
Yep, we got that and he mean't every miserable word of it. Knew he did when these words left his pie hole. What I don't get is this.......There are just too many stupid people that do not understand what this means for them and it'll be a sad day when it finally sinks in on them. I have zero tolerance for a liberal at this point but I will have nothing but contempt for any of them once all this progressiveness gets a firm foothold here.
They were stupid enough to love Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito / Tojo, Mussolini, Mao, Fidel, Ho, Kim, Chavez, Che...........right up until these guys then killed them all.
People find amazing ways to be amazingly stupid. This is why conservatism is such a minority. Most people live conservatively, but they'll never grasp it's political equivalent, or be brave enough to espouse it publicly.
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 08, 2015, 10:25:19 AM
Nope, but Europe is bending over backwards taking it harder than a thai prostitute to create integration, so your whole theory is false :tounge: And I'm a Trønder not a parisian :laugh:
Thanks :smile: I think based on polls and electoral results Europe is becoming more polarized as some are waking up and others are getting more entrenched in leftism. Terrorist acts like this are not unique, most muslims f*ck up their attacks so I guess it is unique in its carnage.
The ghetto concept dates back (in Euopean history) to the days of the Roman Empire. Yes, when we brought (allowed) mass immigration to the US, we did it for the same purpose as the Euopeans did it, later on. The workers during our Industrial Revolution did create ghettos in this country, it was the heritage and culture od both the exploiters and the exploited (who immigrated here from Europe).
When French turned to its former colonies for cheap labor, I doubt one could argue that these laborers were not placed into former 'ghettos' and not assimilated as a matter of policy! It's no doubt as true that todays inhabitants of ghettos do so by choice, just as those who inhabit the ghettos in this country do! We, nonetheless, have resisted the multiculturist movement to create separate group identities that is predominant in European countries, as well as Great Britian. Our left wants to follow the leftists of Europe right off this cliff; I hope the world will see that assimilation into a melting pot, creating a shared national identity is the only stratedy that ultikmaely works!
Don't get me wrong. The actions of terrorist have everything to do with jihad and a warped, unholy religion. Terrorist have time and time again been proven to be middle class; not poor people. The multicultural debacle simply allows shit like Sharia Law and ignornant "traditions' such as discrimination against women, to present a friendly environment for shit heads to sew the seeds of our destruction.
Unlike the Saudi Price, who blamed US policy for 911, while trying to hand out money (that Rudi Guilliani rejected), I don't see any moral equivenece or excuse for the Muscum's actions!
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 10:43:23 AM
They were stupid enough to love Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito / Tojo, Mussolini, Mao, Fidel, Ho, Kim, Chavez, Che...........right up until these guys then killed them all.
People find amazing ways to be amazingly stupid. This is why conservatism is such a minority. Most people live conservatively, but they'll never grasp it's political equivalent, or be brave enough to espouse it publicly.
The carnage in Germany was what I had in mind when I said these words. It's still hard for me to imagine why people were so stupid as to fall for any of Hitler's bull but there are explanations for it. The same can be said of the millions that have fallen for Obola's crap. It does not take much effort to accept enslavement when you don't have a job, no money, you are cold or your children are sick. Nevermind that the reason you are undergoing changes that brought about the strife and forget that you couldn't have found anything out that would have helped shed light on the problems due to censorship. Ok, I get all that about the folks in Germany but in light of all that is known about that time in history, why in hell would we have people in today's time period that just refuse to connect the dots as far as the parallel between the situations? It doesn't even take a pHD to reason out anything that's going on out here in the world. The world is a very dangerous place right now and we need for people to wake up and see all the progressiveness/liberalism for what it is. I have faith and hope that this will come to pass.
Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
The ghetto concept dates back (in Euopean history) to the days of the Roman Empire. Yes, when we brought (allowed) mass immigration to the US, we did it for the same purpose as the Euopeans did it, later on. The workers during our Industrial Revolution did create ghettos in this country, it was the heritage and culture od both the exploiters and the exploited (who immigrated here from Europe).
When French turned to its former colonies for cheap labor, I doubt one could argue that these laborers were not placed into former 'ghettos' and not assimilated as a matter of policy! It's no doubt as true that todays inhabitants of ghettos do so by choice, just as those who inhabit the ghettos in this country do! We, nonetheless, have resisted the multiculturist movement to create separate group identities that is predominant in European countries, as well as Great Britian. Our left wants to follow the leftists of Europe right off this cliff; I hope the world will see that assimilation into a melting pot, creating a shared national identity is the only stratedy that ultikmaely works!
Don't get me wrong. The actions of terrorist have everything to do with jihad and a warped, unholy religion. Terrorist have time and time again been proven to be middle class; not poor people. The multicultural debacle simply allows shit like Sharia Law and ignornant "traditions' such as discrimination against women, to present a friendly environment for shit heads to sew the seeds of our destruction.
You said Europe still employ ghetto system, this is not true as the refugees and immigrants are not exploited and forced into ghettos due to economic disadvantages, they are being encouraged economically and socially to move into indo-european suburbs and integrate into society through a whole range of welfare and charitable activities and policies. That analogy between industrialization ghetto and modern ghettos is false as the muslims just dont want integration.
Can add to my other post that studies show Europe will become Muslim majority in 30 years, with the new muslim civil war between sunni and shia this prediction/estimation may even be too conservative. As the PEGIDA protests show the mainstream conservative parties are moving to the left entrenching themselves in political correctness surrendering to the leftist which forces the silent indo-european majority to move further to the right and embrace more nationalistic belligerent parties making it even harder to compromise between the two sides.
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 08, 2015, 11:11:44 AM
You said Europe still employ ghetto system, this is not true as the refugees and immigrants are not exploited and forced into ghettos due to economic disadvantages, they are being encouraged economically and socially to move into indo-european suburbs and integrate into society through a whole range of welfare and charitable activities and policies. That analogy between industrialization ghetto and modern ghettos is false as the muslims just dont want integration.
Can add to my other post that studies show Europe will become Muslim majority in 30 years, with the new muslim civil war between sunni and shia this prediction/estimation may even be too conservative. As the PEGIDA protests show the mainstream conservative parties are moving to the left entrenching themselves in political correctness surrendering to the leftist which forces the silent indo-european majority to move further to the right and embrace more nationalistic belligerent parties making it even harder to compromise between the two sides.
Thank you for furthering my understanding of this paradigm!
Quote from: keyboarder on January 08, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
The carnage in Germany was what I had in mind when I said these words. It's still hard for me to imagine why people were so stupid as to fall for any of Hitler's bull but there are explanations for it. The same can be said of the millions that have fallen for Obola's crap. It does not take much effort to accept enslavement when you don't have a job, no money, you are cold or your children are sick. Nevermind that the reason you are undergoing changes that brought about the strife and forget that you couldn't have found anything out that would have helped shed light on the problems due to censorship. Ok, I get all that about the folks in Germany but in light of all that is known about that time in history, why in hell would we have people in today's time period that just refuse to connect the dots as far as the parallel between the situations? It doesn't even take a pHD to reason out anything that's going on out here in the world. The world is a very dangerous place right now and we need for people to wake up and see all the progressiveness/liberalism for what it is. I have faith and hope that this will come to pass.
I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else. Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.
Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level". It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.
I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence. It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened. Really, what they allowed to happen. That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else. Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.
Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level". It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.
I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence. It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened. Really, what they allowed to happen. That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.
Obama is the first POTUS from the gimme generation that had everything handed to him. He grew up tutored in Marxism, the evils of capitalism and how terribly unfair and unjust the American history has been since the days of colonialization and slavery.
In other words, Obama represented the first American POTUS with an Ivy League education provided by teachers who were the radicals of the sixties!
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 08, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
I think the biggest problem is that America has always had a president that put America before everything else. Even idiots like LBJ, Carter, Clinton, and Nixon were dedicated to this ideal, despite their myriad failures in everything else.
Obama's the first president to literally despise America and actively pursue failure / misery for America, to create "reparations" and "take us down to their level". It's based in everything he was taught as a kid and student, and very clear in every damn thing he says on a daily basis, as well as everybody he's ever chosen as his colleagues.
I think the vast majority of America still can't wrap their heads around the idea, and won't even acknowledge the damned obvious evidence. It may take a lot of investigation and evidence and writings long after he's gone, before the majority of America will accept what's happened. Really, what they allowed to happen. That may the biggest problem.....nobody wants to admit that they were stupid enough to help the guy do what he's done.
That is probably Post Of The Year, so far.
Without a doubt he'll be a laughingstock for future generations... because long-term
History doesn't scold the voters. It'll assume obama-voters suffered the consequences of their horrible mistake. It'll harshly criticize
the media instead, though I'm not sure which scandals will remain inextricably entwined with obama's legacy.
Each President has incidents of media zealotry; pro or con.
QuoteBill Donohue, President of the Catholic League, decried the violence of the Charlie Hebdo massacre on his organization's website, but contended the French satirical magazine brought the attack on itself by publishing offensive cartoons. Donohue started by saying that the killing, "must be unequivocally condemned" but "neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction."
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry)
Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 04:29:24 PM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry)
wow, what an asshole, say I as a Catholic.
That's one of the problems with the Church today. Pushed along by Francis, they are eager to embrace the fascism of the left, pretending that it has something to do with Jesus' messages to help the poor, or whatever else.
There's a reason why the founders and constitution thought that a free society needed the freedom to say whatever they damn well please (that can't be proven to cause quantifiable damages).
Because every dictatorship and fascist state always starts with outlawing what the rulers declare "wrong". Basically anything that doesn't praise the rulers.
How damned stupid do you need to be, to not realize that outlawing "offensive" or "provoking" is the absolute basis of this fascism. "Offensive / provoking" immediately becomes "whatever the rulers don't like". And a quick trip to jail for all dissenters.
I mean hell, we've only seen it play out in every socialist / communist country in the last century. Today's morons are always certain that they're smarter than yesterday's morons, and that they've perfected what was obviously stupid the previous 1000 times.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 08, 2015, 02:46:15 PM
That is probably Post Of The Year, so far.
Without a doubt he'll be a laughingstock for future generations... because long-term History doesn't scold the voters. It'll assume obama-voters suffered the consequences of their horrible mistake. It'll harshly criticize the media instead, though I'm not sure which scandals will remain inextricably entwined with obama's legacy.
Each President has incidents of media zealotry; pro or con.
haha, POTY for 8 days !!
I'm not sure if laughingstock is the correct description of what it will be, when the cards are laid on the table.
Mainly because we're talking treason, sedition, a friggin' mole that sat in the oval office, dedicated to wrecking America.
More like a damned Tom Clancy novel that happened in real life America, rather than something to laugh at.
Maybe the worst days of America. Though as I like to say when being positive........FDR and Wilson were worse. We at least had some new media and a little better legal protection from Obama, which was almost completely buried during those guys' attempted socialist dictatorships.
Quote from: wally on January 08, 2015, 02:34:32 PM
Obama is the first POTUS from the gimme generation that had everything handed to him. He grew up tutored in Marxism, the evils of capitalism and how terribly unfair and unjust the American history has been since the days of colonialization and slavery.
In other words, Obama represented the first American POTUS with an Ivy League education provided by teachers who were the radicals of the sixties!
I think the Clintons really beat him to it. Granted, Obama's worse with his obvious hatred for America going back to 1776.
But the Clintons are the first people in the WH who actually embraced Alinsky, the 70's commies of academia, the murderous criminals like SDS and Weather Underground and Black Panthers.
Bubba is probably just amenable to anything that gets him a steak dinner, drunk / high, and some sweet young 'tang. Which would be whatever Hillary's bringing half the time. She's the real hard core commie idealogue.
Quote from: MACMan on January 08, 2015, 04:29:24 PM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-league-president-muslims-have-right-be-angry)
Idiot......Yeah Muslims may have a "right" to be angry but this Jerkoff almost sounds like he thinks they have JUSTIFICATION to go out an slaughter a dozen innocent people because they are angry.
BUT I must say that the French indeed have brought this on themselves for adopting their moronic policy of appeasement to Muslim terrorists since the days they harboured the Ayattollah Khomeni. They have allowed their Muslim population to grow to around 20% and almost uncheck immigration, they have also turned a blind eye to Sharia Law that trumps in some sort of "Islamic zone"
snip~
Revenge attacks and retaliation begin: Mosques come under fire with guns and 'grenades' in France... and kebab shop near another Muslim temple is blown up.
more @
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q)
Quote from: walkstall on January 08, 2015, 09:42:53 PM
snip~
Revenge attacks and retaliation begin: Mosques come under fire with guns and 'grenades' in France... and kebab shop near another Muslim temple is blown up.
more @
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901874/Revenge-attacks-retaliation-begin-Mosques-come-fire-guns-grenades-France-kebab-shop-near-Muslim-temple-blown-up.html#ixzz3OGXpnD1Q)
Ironically there will be torch-marches in empathy for these muslims whereas the terrorist attacks will be blamed on the French themselves, as that Catholic League president has already done.
On the subject of Obama; do any of you remember the Christian woman they were going to execute in Sudan as an apostate? Story is because her father was a Muslim, she had to be one also according to the Koran, even though she had been raised by her mother as a Christian, after her Muslim father had abandoned them. So question; Obama's father was also a Muslim, has anyone ever heard of a fatwa calling for his death as an apostate? Yeah I thought so. Now why is that. Muscum holy men are always calling for the death of this Christian and that apostate, but never for Obozo. That fact demands an explanation.
Quote from: mdgiles on January 09, 2015, 06:55:52 AM
On the subject of Obama; do any of you remember the Christian woman they were going to execute in Sudan as an apostate? Story is because her father was a Muslim, she had to be one also according to the Koran, even though she had been raised by her mother as a Christian, after her Muslim father had abandoned them. So question; Obama's father was also a Muslim, has anyone ever heard of a fatwa calling for his death as an apostate? Yeah I thought so. Now why is that. Muscum holy men are always calling for the death of this Christian and that apostate, but never for Obozo. That fact demands an explanation.
Muslims are allowed to lie to nonBelievers to further the faith of Islam, according to the Quran
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm)
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Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
Muslims are allowed to lie to nonBelievers to further the faith of Islam, according to the Quran
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm)
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The doctrine of Taqiyya. Understood. And how exactly, are all Moslems supposed to know he's one of them? Did he give the secret hi sign, or what. In any case, that would be an excellent way to destroy him as a political rival. Hillary Clinton doesn't strike me as that nice or that stupid, so why didn't she bring it up? Especially now. Someone should stand up and ask the press secretary that question, just to watch them squirm.
Quote from: mdgiles on January 09, 2015, 11:27:07 AM
The doctrine of Taqiyya. Understood. And how exactly, are all Moslems supposed to know he's one of them? Did he give the secret hi sign, or what. In any case, that would be an excellent way to destroy him as a political rival. Hillary Clinton doesn't strike me as that nice or that stupid, so why didn't she bring it up? Especially now. Someone should stand up and ask the press secretary that question, just to watch them squirm.
interesting email from my Uncle may shed a bitg of light about this.. "A nod's as good as a wink, to a blind horse"!
Like water dripping on a
stone, they are slowly but surely taking our country, and we just can't
see it. Or, won't see it. > > > Date: November 15, 2014 10:52:28 AM EST
> > > OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT TOP U.S. MILITARY BRASS > > In a fit of
rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint
all of Islam with the same brush!" > > Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama
threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the
bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic
State (ISIS) to Islam. > > His tantrum reportedly took place in the
afternoon of last week just prior to the president's departure to Camp
David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to
take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very
brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked
out of the room. > > The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing
moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood
continued to indicate he was still very upset. > > The senior adviser
made a couple of pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives,
reminded them the president had already had a very busy day, and then
both she and the president once again left the room. Within seconds,
Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at
the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how "inappropriate" it
was to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." The president
repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His
voice carried to several other West Wing offices. > > The senior
adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the
briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president's
personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone "we're done here"
which she repeated several times and then led the president back out
into the hallway. > > "There are none so blind as those who will not
see." > -------------------- > > When you read this you will understand
why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam.".. > > I didn't
originate this, but it checked out with Google and Snopes. > > Did you
know that we now have a Muslim government? > > John Brennan, current
head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. > >
Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran
where her parents still live. > > Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma
Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now
outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. > > Assistant Secretary for Policy
Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim. > >
Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. > > Obama
advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam
al-Marayati, is a Muslim. > > Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid,
of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. > > Advisory
Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a
Muslim. > > And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack
Hussein Obama. > > It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the
oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly
to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed
he was given the oath again in private? > > CIA director John Brennan
took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible. > >
Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an. > > >
Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and
feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking
over our government. > > Considering all these appointments, it would
explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our
nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern
border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on
Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. > > The more damage
Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! > > Our nation and our
government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It can
only get worse! > > If you fail to pass this one on, there's something
wrong ...somewhere! >
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Quote from: wally on January 09, 2015, 11:32:03 AM
interesting email from my Uncle may shed a bitg of light about this.. "A nod's as good as a wink, to a blind horse"!
Like water dripping on a
stone, they are slowly but surely taking our country, and we just can't
see it. Or, won't see it. > > > Date: November 15, 2014 10:52:28 AM EST
> > > OBAMA'S TEMPER TANTRUM AT TOP U.S. MILITARY BRASS > > In a fit of
rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: "Don't you dare try and paint
all of Islam with the same brush!" > > Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama
threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the
bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic
State (ISIS) to Islam. > > His tantrum reportedly took place in the
afternoon of last week just prior to the president's departure to Camp
David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to
take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very
brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked
out of the room. > > The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing
moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood
continued to indicate he was still very upset. > > The senior adviser
made a couple of pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives,
reminded them the president had already had a very busy day, and then
both she and the president once again left the room. Within seconds,
Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at
the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how "inappropriate" it
was to "try and paint all of Islam with the same brush." The president
repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His
voice carried to several other West Wing offices. > > The senior
adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the
briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president's
personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone "we're done here"
which she repeated several times and then led the president back out
into the hallway. > > "There are none so blind as those who will not
see." > -------------------- > > When you read this you will understand
why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam.".. > > I didn't
originate this, but it checked out with Google and Snopes. > > Did you
know that we now have a Muslim government? > > John Brennan, current
head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. > >
Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran
where her parents still live. > > Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma
Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now
outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. > > Assistant Secretary for Policy
Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim. > >
Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. > > Obama
advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam
al-Marayati, is a Muslim. > > Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid,
of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. > > Advisory
Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a
Muslim. > > And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack
Hussein Obama. > > It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the
oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly
to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed
he was given the oath again in private? > > CIA director John Brennan
took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible. > >
Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an. > > >
Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and
feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking
over our government. > > Considering all these appointments, it would
explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our
nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern
border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on
Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. > > The more damage
Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! > > Our nation and our
government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It can
only get worse! > > If you fail to pass this one on, there's something
wrong ...somewhere! >
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The solution to this is simple. We elect a conservative as the next president of the US.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 09, 2015, 12:25:43 PM
The solution to this is simple. We elect a conservative as the next president of the US.
Oh if were just so simple. Any "Conservative' or leftist stooge will still have to contend with the hordes of muslims already in the country and clamoring for their own autonymous region where Sharia is trump. All of whom are protected by the contstitution.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 09, 2015, 06:26:48 PM
Oh if were just so simple. Any "Conservative' or leftist stooge will still have to contend with the hordes of muslims already in the country and clamoring for their own autonymous region where Sharia is trump. All of whom are protected by the contstitution.
We have existing laws that are designed to protect citizens. We just need a government that will enforce those laws.
People in the know, like the U.N. Secretary-General and the President of France, say that the Paris terror attacks had nothing to do with religion.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Check out the comments section.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/un-secretary-general-french-terror-not-religious-war-just-criminality/ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/un-secretary-general-french-terror-not-religious-war-just-criminality/)
Quote from: MACMan on January 10, 2015, 07:17:47 AM
People in the know, like the U.N. Secretary-General and the President of France, say that the Paris terror attacks had nothing to do with religion.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Check out the comments section.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/un-secretary-general-french-terror-not-religious-war-just-criminality/ (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/09/un-secretary-general-french-terror-not-religious-war-just-criminality/)
Yep.... and man caused weather changing is real and the sky will fall if there isn't a redistribution of the wealth of the world from evil capitalist. successful nations to the Despotic Majority Members of the UN!
Did someone ever spit into you mother's face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather's medals?
Charlie Hebdo "journalists" did all that professionaly for years. They even got paid.
Therefore
I feel sorry for one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January, not for the perverts from the magazine..
P.S. The murderers, instead of "Allah akhbar!" should yell "Glory to Ukraine!" like nazies in Ukraine are doing... I bet, world media would let it pass and we wouldn't have to suffer through all this hypocritical display of mourning over liberal perverts.
Quote from: kalash on January 10, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Did someone ever spit into you mother's face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather's medals?
Charlie Hebdo "journalists" did all that professionaly for years. They even got paid.
Therefore
I feel sorry for one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January, not for the perverts from the magazine..
P.S. The murderers, instead of "Allah akhbar!" should yell "Glory to Ukraine!" like nazies in Ukraine are doing... I bet, world media would let it pass and we wouldn't have to suffer through all this hypocritical display of mourning over liberal perverts.
Dear troll....
SHUT UP. AND STAY SHUT UP.
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Quote from: kalash on January 10, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Did someone ever spit into you mother's face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather's medals?
Charlie Hebdo "journalists" did all that professionaly for years. They even got paid.
Therefore
I feel sorry for one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January, not for the perverts from the magazine..
P.S. The murderers, instead of "Allah akhbar!" should yell "Glory to Ukraine!" like nazies in Ukraine are doing... I bet, world media would let it pass and we wouldn't have to suffer through all this hypocritical display of mourning over liberal perverts.
So...anybody who doesn't like ("I'm insulted") what you wrote here....can kill your sorry ass, and/or your wife & kids, mother-father-sister-brother...........and you will give them approval because murder for insult is A-OK ?
Can't have it both ways, you hypocritical dumbass.
Do you even understand that murder / jail for "insult" is the first thing that dictators use againt competing beliefs ?
My God, how damned stupid must you be to have missed this, as the first order of business of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim, Ho, Castro, Chavez, and 1000 more.
Try to be slightly logical and honest, you damned fool.
In America, we can say any damned thing we please, that doesn't yield physical / personal damage to someone. This is how we avoid the criminalization of beliefs by thugs.
Damn you're foolish. Enjoy your Putin.
Quote from: kalash on January 10, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Did someone ever spit into you mother's face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather's medals?
Charlie Hebdo "journalists" did all that professionaly for years. They even got paid.
Therefore
I feel sorry for one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January, not for the perverts from the magazine..
P.S. The murderers, instead of "Allah akhbar!" should yell "Glory to Ukraine!" like nazies in Ukraine are doing... I bet, world media would let it pass and we wouldn't have to suffer through all this hypocritical display of mourning over liberal perverts.
In a kind of psychotic, demented way, our friend here has a point.
The reason Christian prayer is banned in our schools and monuments commemorating The Ten Commandments and Christian images, traditions and beliefs are under constant assault in this country is simple.
There is no real negative consequence for attacking Christianity!
The courts will defend you, Christians won't retaliate and if you are lucky, you will end up with your 15 minutes of fame as a documentary on one of the Discovery Channels.
Or, they will make a Lifetime movie about you.
I think Christians are taking this whole "turn the other cheek" thing just a bit too far.
If there were serious consequences for insulting Christ and Christians, I'm pretty sure you'd see a lot less of it.
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 10, 2015, 05:07:11 AM
We have existing laws that are designed to protect citizens. We just need a government that will enforce those laws.
Right now if you try to "protect yourself" under the law (self defense) you will find your ass in court and labeled a vigilante, this Govt is doing all it can to prevent not only law enforcement from protecting themselves and thus the public but honest citizens as well ....after all...we have to wipe out those evil guns
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 10, 2015, 05:44:43 PM
Right now if you try to "protect yourself" under the law (self defense) you will find your ass in court and labeled a vigilante, this Govt is doing all it can to prevent not only law enforcement from protecting themselves and thus the public but honest citizens as well ....after all...we have to wipe out those evil guns
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Who protects you, if not them?
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 10, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
So...anybody who doesn't like ("I'm insulted") what you wrote here....can kill your sorry ass, and/or your wife & kids, mother-father-sister-brother...........and you will give them approval because murder for insult is A-OK ?
Can't have it both ways
I can have it any way I want to (1st amendment, remember?), it just happen to be the right way, out of many. I really don't care about murder of the perverts. And I would love to see the murderers to be killed on the spot, by these perverts. In other way, i would cheer, if they would kill each other. Didn't happen that way? Well, you can't have everything.
Just yesterday, in Donbass(Ukraine), another case happen, that didn't attract the same attention, as murder case in France - the shell hit private house, as a result 10 year old boy lost three limbs out of four, one eye and second eye also damaged. His 5 year old brother was killed. The shell came from ukrainian army.
So sorry (actually I am not) that I am so cruel, and don't want to join to quire of mourners for these "journalists".
Quote from: kalash on January 10, 2015, 10:49:30 AM
Did someone ever spit into you mother's face in front of you? Posted nude pictures of your sister on the internet? Took a shit on your grandfather's medals?
Charlie Hebdo "journalists" did all that professionaly for years. They even got paid.
Therefore
I feel sorry for one of the innocent French policemen killed on 7th of January, not for the perverts from the magazine..
P.S. The murderers, instead of "Allah akhbar!" should yell "Glory to Ukraine!" like nazies in Ukraine are doing... I bet, world media would let it pass and we wouldn't have to suffer through all this hypocritical display of mourning over liberal perverts.
In our country our doctrine of Free Speech is best expressed in the words of Voltaire; " I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Althoough, "Sticks & Stones may break my bones, but words don't hurt me Asshole" is another expression of Free Speech that comes to mind!
Quote from: kalash on January 11, 2015, 01:09:39 AM
I can have it any way I want to (1st amendment, remember?), it just happen to be the right way, out of many. I really don't care about murder of the perverts. And I would love to see the murderers to be killed on the spot, by these perverts. In other way, i would cheer, if they would kill each other. Didn't happen that way? Well, you can't have everything.
Just yesterday, in Donbass(Ukraine), another case happen, that didn't attract the same attention, as murder case in France - the shell hit private house, as a result 10 year old boy lost three limbs out of four, one eye and second eye also damaged. His 5 year old brother was killed. The shell came from ukrainian army.
So sorry (actually I am not) that I am so cruel, and don't want to join to quire of mourners for these "journalists".
It's not the individual, it's what they represent.
The day you lose the right to criticize, is the day you become a slave.
Quote from: Darth Fife on January 10, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
In a kind of psychotic, demented way, our friend here has a point.
The reason Christian prayer is banned in our schools and monuments commemorating The Ten Commandments and Christian images, traditions and beliefs are under constant assault in this country is simple.
There is no real negative consequence for attacking Christianity!
The courts will defend you, Christians won't retaliate and if you are lucky, you will end up with your 15 minutes of fame as a documentary on one of the Discovery Channels.
Or, they will make a Lifetime movie about you.
I think Christians are taking this whole "turn the other cheek" thing just a bit too far.
If there were serious consequences for insulting Christ and Christians, I'm pretty sure you'd see a lot less of it.
It's not as much common sense anymore as it is an existential threat, this turn the other cheek is a reference to verbal insults not a reference to forgive your neighbour for worshipping a moon deity while raping your daughter, killing your other neighbour and seeking to destroy your country...
Quote from: wally on January 11, 2015, 05:18:15 AM
In our country our doctrine of Free Speech is best expressed in the words of Voltaire; " I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Good sounding, but empty words from frenchman. I don't think he, or anybody else would be ready to die exactly for the that. It would be stupid and deserved to be nominated to Darwin award. Especially to die for that :
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But, if you ready to die for Hustler magazine, I take my words back. :unsure:
Quote from: kalash on January 12, 2015, 03:20:09 AM
Good sounding, but empty words from frenchman. I don't think he, or anybody else would be ready to die exactly for the that. It would be stupid and deserved to be nominated to Darwin award. Especially to die for that :
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But, if you ready to die for Hustler magazine, I take my words back. :unsure:
Then you truly do not understand Americans, our First Amendment is the center piece of our freedoms, and backed up with the Right to enforce it's survival with a gun.
Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 05:14:30 AM
Then you truly do not understand Americans, our First Amendment is the center piece of our freedoms, and backed up with the Right to enforce it's survival with a gun.
What about the "Alien and Sedition Acts"? Were they 100% immoral? The founders did not interpret the first amendment to allow seditionists and traitors publish whatever they material they wanted as demonstrated by all the local cencorship of seditionist publications. And what about Thomas Jefferson's party which attacked the federalist for it's "Alien and Sedition Acts" but when in power during the war against Britain in 1812 broke into seditionist publishers Offices and destroyed their property?
If the First Amendment is supposed to protect traitors and seditionists, something some of the brightest and most moral founders even thought was not the case then why should it protect the same scum today?
Quote from: kalash on January 12, 2015, 03:20:09 AMBut, if you ready to die for Hustler magazine, I take my words back. :unsure:
Your missing the point. This has nothing to do with the content of the magazine. All those people in the deli weren't held hostage and shot because of the magazine, it's because they were Jewish. 9/11 wasn't about the Hebdo publication. Islamist terrorists will find whatever excuse they want to kill and say it's because Allah commands it.
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 05:47:16 AM
What about the "Alien and Sedition Acts"? Were they 100% immoral? The founders did not interpret the first amendment to allow seditionists and traitors publish whatever they material they wanted as demonstrated by all the local cencorship of seditionist publications. And what about Thomas Jefferson's party which attacked the federalist for it's "Alien and Sedition Acts" but when in power during the war against Britain in 1812 broke into seditionist publishers Offices and destroyed their property?
If the First Amendment is supposed to protect traitors and seditionists, something some of the brightest and most moral founders even thought was not the case then why should it protect the same scum today?
I'm not following your point at all. Do I have the Right of sedition to the Bill of Rights? Is that your point?
Quote from: kalash on January 11, 2015, 01:09:39 AM
I can have it any way I want to (1st amendment, remember?), it just happen to be the right way, out of many. I really don't care about murder of the perverts. And I would love to see the murderers to be killed on the spot, by these perverts. In other way, i would cheer, if they would kill each other. Didn't happen that way? Well, you can't have everything.
Just yesterday, in Donbass(Ukraine), another case happen, that didn't attract the same attention, as murder case in France - the shell hit private house, as a result 10 year old boy lost three limbs out of four, one eye and second eye also damaged. His 5 year old brother was killed. The shell came from ukrainian army.
So sorry (actually I am not) that I am so cruel, and don't want to join to quire of mourners for these "journalists".
Well based on your continued dumbassery and refusal to accept a modicum of logic or reason, I hope they kill you for your opinion.
End of story. Hopefully your family is spared the fallout of your stupidity. But I hope some political / social hack blows your ass off because your opinion is insulting to them. This is obviously the world you want to endorse.
Me, I'll continue to live in a sane, adult world.
Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 06:10:36 AM
I'm not following your point at all. Do I have the Right of sedition to the Bill of Rights? Is that your point?
I believe he is saying that First Amendment rights you assert to be paramount were in fact soundly ignored by those acts of Congress. He's not saying sedition is cool, he's saying those laws were designed to suppress freedom of speech, and did historically happen on Thomas Jefferson's watch.
There has never been a right to speech that pursues overthrow of the govt.
Or libel, or slander, or physical threats (AKA assault with or without the battery), or causing panic which hurts or threatens to hurt people.
It really is that simple.
EVERYTHING ELSE is fair game. Especially the most vile, disturbing, insulting. Speech that everybody likes doesn't need legal protection, lol.....everybody likes it and wants more.
Aspiring dictators always define any speech that doesn't support them, as "vile, disturbing, insulting, dangerous, etc." and criminalize it. Again, for the hard of hearing or thinking.......anything that doesn't support / agree with Dear Leader.
I mean come on, this is so damned obvious that even a dog or cat should be able to grasp it.
Quote from: quiller on January 12, 2015, 07:38:01 AM
I believe he is saying that First Amendment rights you assert to be paramount were in fact soundly ignored by those acts of Congress. He's not saying sedition is cool, he's saying those laws were designed to suppress freedom of speech, and did historically happen on Thomas Jefferson's watch.
Which has nothing to do with my point topically speaking, in present times.
For the same reason we abhor slavery, even though the Founders practiced it.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 12, 2015, 08:00:56 AM
There has never been a right to speech that pursues overthrow of the govt.
I think you are wrong about this. The First Amendment was designed specifically to protect the freedom of
political speech - and what could be more political then advocating the overthrow of the Government.
When our founders wrote the Constitution they were well aware of the words they had written only a few years earlier which stated, in no uncertain terms...
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new GovernmentThey did not exempt the government they were founding from those "unalienable rights".
Quote from: quiller on January 12, 2015, 07:38:01 AM
I believe he is saying that First Amendment rights you assert to be paramount were in fact soundly ignored by those acts of Congress. He's not saying sedition is cool, he's saying those laws were designed to suppress freedom of speech, and did historically happen on Thomas Jefferson's watch.
If you say it's unconstitutional to stop seditious incitement, then yes, you are promoting sedition.
I'm sick of this childish dickdance / word game. You keep doing and saying hypocritical, illogical things that enable various forms of destruction.....you're part of it.
It's just like the muslims (and liberal idiots) who claim that the terrorism has nothing to do with islam, and muslims are against it. Bullshit. The "Allah Akbar" that gets screamed at every murder and maiming, and the 6 people who say anything against it out of a couple billion (who then must flee & hide immediately) tell a different story.
Quote from: AndyJackson on January 12, 2015, 08:20:28 AM
If you say it's unconstitutional to stop seditious incitement, then yes, you are promoting sedition.
I'm sick of this childish dickdance / word game. You keep doing and saying hypocritical, illogical things that enable various forms of destruction.....you're part of it.
It's just like the muslims (and liberal idiots) who claim that the terrorism has nothing to do with islam, and muslims are against it. Bullshit. The "Allah Akbar" that gets screamed at every murder and maiming, and the 6 people who say anything against it out of a couple billion (who then must flee & hide immediately) tell a different story.
If the "you" in the above was directed at me, retract it. Now.
I was attempting to fairly interpret a statement, neither agreeing or disagreeing.
Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 06:10:36 AM
I'm not following your point at all. Do I have the Right of sedition to the Bill of Rights? Is that your point?
Sorry I formulated the sentence badly, the question I was asking with regards to Kalash point with defending your enemy to your death, whereas your enemy would gladly and actively seek your death is suicidal was not what the Founders sought the first amendment to convey?
Do we have an obligation to defend communist and Islamists that want to use the first amendment to destroy us because we are for liberty even if it means our own death? For example Islamist mullah or whatever they called, calls for the death of Americans by muslims, some muslims take this call to arms and follow through, or communist organizations use first amendment to spread their infiltration which leads to valuable information and tech being stolen from the military and given to your enemies, doesn't the mullah and communist organization have any fault in these crimes just because they have the right to free speech?
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
Sorry I formulated the sentence badly, the question I was asking with regards to Kalash point with defending your enemy to your death, whereas your enemy would gladly and actively seek your death is suicidal was not what the Founders sought the first amendment to convey?
Do we have an obligation to defend communist and Islamists that want to use the first amendment to destroy us because we are for liberty even if it means our own death? For example Islamist mullah or whatever they called, calls for the death of Americans by muslims, some muslims take this call to arms and follow through, or communist organizations use first amendment to spread their infiltration which leads to valuable information and tech being stolen from the military and given to your enemies, doesn't the mullah and communist organization have any fault in these crimes just because they have the right to free speech?
I don't quite follow still, but if it''s a rhetorical question as to whether we should limit free speech to protect our Liberties, then absolutely not,!
As it's stated, to forego Liberty for safety, is to relinquish freedom. (paraphrased)
Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 09:40:41 AM
Sorry I formulated the sentence badly, the question I was asking with regards to Kalash point with defending your enemy to your death, whereas your enemy would gladly and actively seek your death is suicidal was not what the Founders sought the first amendment to convey?
Do we have an obligation to defend communist and Islamists that want to use the first amendment to destroy us because we are for liberty even if it means our own death? For example Islamist mullah or whatever they called, calls for the death of Americans by muslims, some muslims take this call to arms and follow through, or communist organizations use first amendment to spread their infiltration which leads to valuable information and tech being stolen from the military and given to your enemies, doesn't the mullah and communist organization have any fault in these crimes just because they have the right to free speech?
Here's a good article which may address some of what you question;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0027.104/--lincoln-s-construction-of-the-executive-power?rgn=main;view=fulltext (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0027.104/--lincoln-s-construction-of-the-executive-power?rgn=main;view=fulltext)
Arguably, alien and sedition acts were an attempt to deal with internal influences on both our foreign policy and even, war powers, of the Executive. This article address the ebb of POTUS power and that our POTUS acts at the weakest ebb of his power when he acts alone.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No1_Kozinskionline.pdf (http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No1_Kozinskionline.pdf)
Our Founders recognized there might be unforeen dangers facing our nation and they vest great power with the position of our President. The checks and balances of the other "coequal branches" limiting such power.