Why are these countries problems any business of the US. We have sent them aide. We have removed corrupt regimes from power. And yet they sink back into the crap fests they were before. Screw them, go/stay home and straighten up your own countries. This country has it's own poor, black white and Native American, and they are being shoved off the rungs of the socio-economic ladder, by aliens who have just come here - not to assimilate - but to loot.

Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 04:29:26 AM
He's NOT an idiot! It's Cloward & Pivin executed flawlessly. Overwhelm the system to BRING IT DOWN.

I get a little irritated every time one of us attribute it to a "bumbling" president.  If WE don't understand him, how can we expect to educate the worshiping masses?

You give him way too much credit.
In reality, he's nothing but a puppet to a secretive class of communists.
Though he is still smarter than Biden, because biden would probably get drunk and spill the beans, the man can't keep his mouth shut.

Here's an excellent question. When they had this summit with the Central American Presidents, why in the hell wasn't MEXICO included? It's not as if they levitated to our borders. They were allowed to travel through Mexico. Weren't any questions asked about how and why this happened?

Mexico is considered part of North America.  I know, not an answer.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 26, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
Why are these countries problems any business of the US. We have sent them aide. We have removed corrupt regimes from power. And yet they sink back into the crap fests they were before. Screw them, go/stay home and straighten up your own countries. This country has it's own poor, black white and Native American, and they are being shoved off the rungs of the socio-economic ladder, by aliens who have just come here - not to assimilate - but to loot.

You speak the truth too.

When america was settled, it became something of benefit of all who were here.  The Indians didn't really want to share.  They had hunting and fishing skills and could subsist off things no human should have to.  Enter the pilgrims.  along came crop planting, weaving looms, spinning wheels and any assortment of things to make life more bearable.  All the indians had to do was partake and share.  There were good and bad folks on each side but it came down to greed on the side of both. 

Things just about got settled down and here comes the folks from other countries that were oppressed in one way or another and needing freedom.  So the doors were opened again.  Soon after the doors had to be shut to show immigrants that  what they were after would come with a price, usually dedicating themselves to an established way of life but still free.  Again, good and bad on both sides then.

With the borders of America thought to be secure, here comes another bunch to this evil, capitalistic country.  They want to be slaves like the liberals accuse us of doing to everyone.  (tongue in cheek on this one).

Like Giles and many others say, go home and clean up the mess you've help make out of your own country.  We don't need interference here in keeping this place from becomming what you left. 

This is one family that will not tolerate intrusion on their property.  We will not go looking for trouble but if it shows its ugly head, we are more than ready to do what is necessary to keep it away. 

Quote from: Solar on July 26, 2014, 06:49:13 AM
You give him way too much credit.
In reality, he's nothing but a puppet to a secretive class of communists.
Though he is still smarter than Biden, because biden would probably get drunk and spill the beans, the man can't keep his mouth shut.

Okay, we'll pretend that he's just bumbling his way to achieving ALL of his goals for the collapse and FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION of America.  I thought YOU were one of the few who understood that he knows exactly what he's doing.

America and the American people need to come first.  No NAU, No SPP, No Amnesty, No Illegal Immigration.

What people don't realize and very rarely makes the MSM news is the number of legal American citizens who fall victims to the hands of illegals.  Please take a moment to look at the stats posted by the Constitution Party --- they are staggering:

http://cpwp.swehes.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/

Quote from: mdgiles on July 26, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
Why are these countries problems any business of the US. We have sent them aide. We have removed corrupt regimes from power. And yet they sink back into the crap fests they were before. Screw them, go/stay home and straighten up your own countries. This country has it's own poor, black white and Native American, and they are being shoved off the rungs of the socio-economic ladder, by aliens who have just come here - not to assimilate - but to loot.

You got it! We have given aid to these countries and nothing changes. I do not want to become an isolationist, but enough is enough. We, as a country, is approaching $18T in debt. If we keep giving, they will keep taking. If we quit giving, they will find a way to improve. It is like spoiling kids.

Quote from: suzziY on July 26, 2014, 12:22:06 PM
America and the American people need to come first.  No NAU, No SPP, No Amnesty, No Illegal Immigration.

What people don't realize and very rarely makes the MSM news is the number of legal American citizens who fall victims to the hands of illegals.  Please take a moment to look at the stats posted by the Constitution Party --- they are staggering:

http://cpwp.swehes.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/

Yes, and we need to place responsibility for each and every one of these AMERICAN victims at the feet of the Democrat Party.  Murders, rapes, assaults, ALL needless if the Party in power cared more about the LAW than acquiring votes.

Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 12:06:38 PM
Okay, we'll pretend that he's just bumbling his way to achieving ALL of his goals for the collapse and FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION of America.  I thought YOU were one of the few who understood that he knows exactly what he's doing.

My point was, he's not the brains behind these decisions, though he agrees in their entirety, Jarrett is one step above Hussein the puppet, and God only knows whose pulling her strings.
Yes, Hussein is an incompetent, he could never have put this plan in action on his own.

As I said before.
Obama invited this invasion with his "Dreamer" horseshit. And remember when Honduras ousted their Socialist Presidential pal of Hugo Chavez for trying to change the Constitutional Pres. term limits, the Military with the consent of their Supreme court deported his sorry ass in his pajamas. Obama went goofy and condemned the action, Honduras has had problems ever sense!!

By the way, some of the posts have a very strange idea of pre-columbian history. The Americans had a population of 1/4-1/3 of the world, they managed the continents like huge "orchard gardens, with herds of Elk, buffalo, deer and turkey. They domesticated more edible and medicinal plants than all the other cultures of the world combined!!

Columbus came along and within 100 years 90% of all the population of "America" were dead. 

I highly recommend all to read "1491" by Charles Mann.   

Quote from: Ek Ehecatl on July 26, 2014, 01:01:13 PM

By the way, some of the posts have a very strange idea of pre-columbian history. The Americans had a population of 1/4-1/3 of the world, they managed the continents like huge "orchard gardens, with herds of Elk, buffalo, deer and turkey. They domesticated more edible and medicinal plants than all the other cultures of the world combined!!

Columbus came along and within 100 years 90% of all the population of "America" were dead. 

With their slayings, document burning, and diseases for which the natives had no resistance, the damned Spaniards almost killed everyone on two continents.

Quote from: keyboarder on July 26, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
Most likely mad at the parents that brought him into this world.  To have followed on the coattails of known terrorists and evil men (some with alot of money) suggests to me that he has got a spite out for himself and everyone around him.
He is filled with rage towards alot of things.  To me, he is like a person with no country.  His parents were of mixed origin and from culturally different backgrounds leaving him at the mercy of an unforgiving world in such matters.  He had several strikes against him and he took the low road of feeling sorry for himself.  Who cares?  To say that he knows what he is doing isn't quite accurate.  To say that he got on a roller coaster that's eventually gotta wreck with him on it would be more to the point.

I think you are correct in the psychoanalysis.  I have long felt his hatred was toward himself and what he was.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: mdgiles on July 26, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
Why are these countries problems any business of the US. We have sent them aide. We have removed corrupt regimes from power. And yet they sink back into the crap fests they were before. Screw them, go/stay home and straighten up your own countries. This country has it's own poor, black white and Native American, and they are being shoved off the rungs of the socio-economic ladder, by aliens who have just come here - not to assimilate - but to loot.

You are 100% correct, Giles.

Does anyone remember that in the 60's and 70's all we kept hearing was about starving children and overpopulation?  US solution was to offer birth control (the ultimate in free contraceptives) to the afflicted populations.  Less children equaled less starving children.  Did they USE THEM?  NO.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: CG6468 on July 26, 2014, 01:07:44 PM
With their slayings, document burning, and diseases for which the natives had no resistance, the damned Spaniards almost killed everyone on two continents.

The epidemics spread so far and fast most of America didn't even know the "Whiteman" had come.