I am feeling no compassion, and nothing but ANGER at the illegal immigration situation.

I am all out of compassion for people entering this country against the law.  I don't care if they are 2 or 42.  They are not our responsibility.  We cannot help if our resources are drained. 

Sorry, the "for the children" argument is all out of steam for me.  I had to take care of my own.  I had to do WHATEVER was required of me to raise my own child.  It included going back to work as a nurse when my daughter was 7 weeks old, with no sleep.  I then changed to 12 hour (often stretching to 14 1/2 hours) shifts all weekend.  If my daughter didn't nap, neither did I before a 12 hour night shift.  I got out when my work was complete and not a minute sooner.  I did this for YEARS. 

I went to school to become a nurse and worked my butt off to learn, graduate, and get a license.  No one gave it to me.  I worked while I was IN SCHOOL.  I raised a child with an autistic disorder with no handouts.  My "extra" money went toward medical bills to get her help.

I am not trying to make MYSELF the issue here.  It is but ONE illustration of what most of us have had to do not to be poor, etc.  I don't want to support other children that I didn't produce.  I made sure I just had one child - it was planned. 

We work hard, play by the rules, and then are told we are BAD people.  I have been generous to charity of my own free will.  I have taken care of sick people of all stripes without prejudice. 

But, now I feel no compassion, nothing but anger.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: DaisyJane on July 25, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
I am feeling no compassion, and nothing but ANGER at the illegal immigration situation.

I am all out of compassion for people entering this country against the law.  I don't care if they are 2 or 42.  They are not our responsibility.  We cannot help if our resources are drained. 

Sorry, the "for the children" argument is all out of steam for me.  I had to take care of my own.  I had to do WHATEVER was required of me to raise my own child.  It included going back to work as a nurse when my daughter was 7 weeks old, with no sleep.  I then changed to 12 hour (often stretching to 14 1/2 hours) shifts all weekend.  If my daughter didn't nap, neither did I before a 12 hour night shift.  I got out when my work was complete and not a minute sooner.  I did this for YEARS. 

I went to school to become a nurse and worked my butt off to learn, graduate, and get a license.  No one gave it to me.  I worked while I was IN SCHOOL.  I raised a child with an autistic disorder with no handouts.  My "extra" money went toward medical bills to get her help.

I am not trying to make MYSELF the issue here.  It is but ONE illustration of what most of us have had to do not to be poor, etc.  I don't want to support other children that I didn't produce.  I made sure I just had one child - it was planned. 

We work hard, play by the rules, and then are told we are BAD people.  I have been generous to charity of my own free will.  I have taken care of sick people of all stripes without prejudice. 

But, now I feel no compassion, nothing but anger.

DaisyJane     

Most of us have similar  stories, mine would make you cry.

The children are, as I have heard some say, the liberals "Trojan Horse".  They are being used to draw compassion.  We cannot serve every person, child, from every country that doesn't take care of its people.  We are at the same place here if they would but open their eyes.

Can you imagine the chaos when these children try to enter our schools?  I have been a sub in some of our local elementary schools and one of our largest high schools since I retired off my job.  My first job of sub was at a local ele. and it was my misfortune to have to be an aide to a k4-5 teacher.  She had upwards of 27 children in that class and all were latino except one black child and one white child.  None of the latino children could speak English.  I asked the teacher how we were supposed to deal with them when I found out she didn't speak their language.  Her answer was, "they are learning from the other (2) students in the class pretty fast".  All the children in that class was an overflow from a school that was closing and they had to put them somewhere until the new school got built the next year. 

Youv'e got every right to be angry, just put that anger to good use and do what you can to encourage others that might feel the same way. 

Did you happen to get to see the movie "America"?  I think every American ought to see this movie.  I saw it today with my "sheriff" and we both thought it right on point to the trouble we are having today from an onslaught of progressiveness.  There might even be some info in it that you might not have heard.  It will make you want to fight for our country!

Yes, the school system is going to be a mess.

I have lived in the same town since 1986.  Now they are asking for ARABIC speaking people for the school system.  It makes me sick.

I have heard parents speaking to little children in stores in Spanish.  There is no excuse for this.  I have said "speak English" to them!

They are literally killing the goose that laid the golden eggs.  And politicians sit back and watch it happen.

DaisyJane     

God Bless all nurses, they really are special people.

Daisey I've known many nurses in my profession as a career Police officer/detective and I think after a time both become hardened to the suffering of others probably as a defense mechanism.

But in this case I agree with you 100% our compassion is being used against us...these children will turn on us in a few years or a few months, the cartels are planting them here.

Most of these are not "good" people. We are importing criminals and takers and Obama KNOWS what he's doing.

But even if these are good Hondurans, they are NOT Americans and we have no responsibility to take them in. They belong in their own countries.

I Agree with Pat Buchanan. It's long past time to seal the damn border for a generation until those here are fully Amaricanized and if not, until that generation passes away as aliens in our land. As long as we don't respect our own culture and borders, it's naive to think these invaders will either.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 25, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
God Bless all nurses, they really are special people.

Daisey I've known many nurses in my profession as a career Police officer/detective and I think after a time both become hardened to the suffering of others probably as a defense mechanism.

But in this case I agree with you 100% our compassion is being used against us...these children will turn on us in a few years or a few months, the cartels are planting them here.

If, as you say, the cartels are planting them here, what is their goal by so doing? It is clear that Democrats are inviting and keeping them here, and I think we already know what they have in mind.

Quote from: TboneAgain on July 25, 2014, 06:04:45 PM
If, as you say, the cartels are planting them here, what is their goal by so doing? It is clear that Democrats are inviting and keeping them here, and I think we already know what they have in mind.

The cartels wish to expand their narcoterrorist network deeper into American cities and exercise greater control.  Drugs, prostitution, loansharking, extortion, scams, racketts etc. With drugs being legalized in some states they will soon monopolize that industry "legitimately", undercutting or muscleing out AMERICAN GROWERS/ENTRPENUERS.

I also predict that with the ever increasing amount of Mexican laborers they will expand to control the unions thereby controlling elections.

Don't forget, the cartels "own" these people who have to pay or work off their debt to their overlords for the privledge of being smuggled into the "land of the free".

The idiot Obamanistas are facilitating their network by redistributing them in various states and cities.

Its a worst case scenario...beleive me.

Without borders, we have no country.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 25, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
The cartels wish to expand their narcoterrorist network deeper into American cities and exercise greater control.  Drugs, prostitution, loansharking, extortion, scams, racketts etc. With drugs being legalized in some states they will soon monopolize that industry "legitimately", undercutting or muscleing out AMERICAN GROWERS/ENTRPENUERS.

I also predict that with the ever increasing amount of Mexican laborers they will expand to control the unions thereby controlling elections.

Don't forget, the cartels "own" these people who have to pay or work off their debt to their overlords for the privledge of being smuggled into the "land of the free".

The idiot Obamanistas are facilitating their network by redistributing them in various states and cities.

Its a worst case scenario...beleive me.

Excellent synopsis, and I believe you nailed it.
What better way to destroy America, than from within it's heart?

I'm not sure what I feel. I am distressed that there are thousands of people, mostly kids crammed into disease riddled rooms. But I have no control over it. I didn't do it. This is the doing of the Democrat party. Once again they have destroyed one of their policies. They destroyed any support there was for alternative energy  by wasting billions on already dying green energy companies. They set back their dream of a single payer healthcare system by decades with Obamacare and all the lies and deception that went with it. Labor was decimated by they their tantrums in Colorado. So Card Check is DOA. All the tricks in the progressive bag of economics have led to the longest recovery this side of the second world war and the lowest labor participation rate since Jimmy was rocking the cardigan in the Oval Office.

And now immigration.

The storyline was thousands of poor people wanting to access the American dream and the evil racist Conservatives wouldn't let them. Now it is tens of thousands of people herded into rooms and the dropped off in unsuspecting towns by our President.

There is no major issue that the Democrat party is on the same side as the voters. They are no longer a major party because they no longer represent any major issues. They are now the party of gay rights and free contraception. Illegal immigration and a higher minimum wage. Small beer.

I hope Obama grants amnesty, I want him to because it takes a distraction off the table so we can focus on the real issues. I want the people to see the democrats and Obama as they really are. And they are doing a great job.

It only gets worse! 

Now the Destroyer plans to send planes dow there to PICK UP these gang members and BRING THEM HERE!

QuoteObama: Coyote-in-Chief

RUSH: I should have seen it.  It was right in front of my face and you know why it didn't occur to me?  It's because it's so outrageous.  President Barack Obama, it is said, is considering the idea of granting refugee status to the children of Honduras.  Now, that I predicted.  That's not what I missed.  We all knew that was coming.  I mean, ever since we began hearing the term "migrant" and "refugees," as opposed to illegal alien, illegal immigrant.  We knew that was coming.

What I didn't foresee, Obama is going to send US officials to Honduras and okay them as refugees and then use taxpayer dollars to fly them to America so they don't have to catch the death train and go through Mexico.  We're gonna cut out the middleman.  We're gonna cut out the coyotes.  We're just gonna bring them here as refugees.  We are going to facilitate.  We're actually going to provide the transportation mechanism for what are illegal immigrants to cross the border.  It's going to be done with an executive order.  There's no way any of it can be stopped.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/25/barack_obama_coyote_in_chief

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 25, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
The cartels wish to expand their narcoterrorist network deeper into American cities and exercise greater control.  Drugs, prostitution, loansharking, extortion, scams, racketts etc. With drugs being legalized in some states they will soon monopolize that industry "legitimately", undercutting or muscleing out AMERICAN GROWERS/ENTRPENUERS.

I also predict that with the ever increasing amount of Mexican laborers they will expand to control the unions thereby controlling elections.

Don't forget, the cartels "own" these people who have to pay or work off their debt to their overlords for the privledge of being smuggled into the "land of the free".

The idiot Obamanistas are facilitating their network by redistributing them in various states and cities.

Its a worst case scenario...beleive me.

He's NOT an idiot! It's Cloward & Pivin executed flawlessly. Overwhelm the system to BRING IT DOWN.

I get a little irritated every time one of us attribute it to a "bumbling" president.  If WE don't understand him, how can we expect to educate the worshiping masses?

Quote from: carlb on July 26, 2014, 04:29:26 AM
He's NOT an idiot! It's Cloward & Pivin executed flawlessly. Overwhelm the system to BRING IT DOWN.

I get a little irritated every time one of us attribute it to a "bumbling" president.  If WE don't understand him, how can we expect to educate the worshiping masses?

He is an idiot.  He has no idea what he's doing.  He's just knows it hurts the US and is up for anything.  He is a really, really, really, dumb person.

Quote from: taxed on July 26, 2014, 04:52:44 AM
He is an idiot.  He has not idea what he's doing.  He's just knows it hurts the US and is up for anything.  He is a really, really, really, dumb person.

Most likely mad at the parents that brought him into this world.  To have followed on the coattails of known terrorists and evil men (some with alot of money) suggests to me that he has got a spite out for himself and everyone around him.
He is filled with rage towards alot of things.  To me, he is like a person with no country.  His parents were of mixed origin and from culturally different backgrounds leaving him at the mercy of an unforgiving world in such matters.  He had several strikes against him and he took the low road of feeling sorry for himself.  Who cares?  To say that he knows what he is doing isn't quite accurate.  To say that he got on a roller coaster that's eventually gotta wreck with him on it would be more to the point.

Quote from: CG6468 on July 25, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
Without borders, we have no country.

And we should have just as much compassion as we have money and space for.

Try it with your own family's finances.  Choose to tithe either 100 bucks per month, or 10,000.  See what happens as a result of either.  Offer to let one person stay at your house, or 20.

Liberals are way too stupid to assess it like this, as adults.