Marxism vs Capitalism

Started by Solar, November 28, 2013, 06:28:54 AM

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kopema

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2013, 04:38:58 PM
He wants to see evidence of millions killed at the hands of the left before he'll consider it.

The movement to centralize control and redistribute wealth is excused all excesses, because it won't be a "real" Communist Utopia until the instant all opposition to the zeitgeist has been completely eliminated.  Once centralization of power reaches completion, and the true horrors inevitably start, that proves that nothing about the movement ever had anything to do with "real" Communism to begin with.  Then the cycle starts anew; the movement's liberal supporters' hands are awash in oceans of blood, but their minds wiped utterly clean.

It's called Doublethink.  As insane and idiotic as it sounds, he genuinely believes that WE are all idiots because we 'don't get it."
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Solar

Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 01, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
Can one realistically analyze society and human action in a quantitative fashion?

And what about the inherent flaws in empiricism?

Where is the vacuum in human affairs where we can pause everything, change one factor, and note the effect?
Shhh! You'll confuse him. :laugh:
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Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 01, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
Can one realistically analyze society and human action in a quantitative fashion? 

And what about the inherent flaws in empiricism?

Where is the vacuum in human affairs where we can pause everything, change one factor, and note the effect?

I think the guidelines are pretty darned clear at this point:

A)  Ignore absolutely everything about Barack [Middle Name Redacted] Obama's actual background, life history, affiliations, words and actions.

B)  Excluding all the abovesaid "facts," provide a comprehensive "scientific" "quantitative" and "empirical" proof that his very innermost soul consists of absolutely nothing besides the Communist Manifesto, and

C)  Concede that nothing called a "soul" can possibly exist, and that the Communist Manifesto cannot in any way have anything whatsoever to do with the "unreal" version of Communism (i.e., the only kind that has ever actually existed anywhere in the real world.)

Now, is that really too much to ask?
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Solar

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on December 01, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
None of the evidence you've presented has anything to do with actual Marxism but rather can be vaguely attributed to varying levels of progressivism.  Social welfare?  Actually a concept Marx disliked.  Obamacare?  Not even single payer.  Where exactly are you going with this?
OK son, then prove me wrong, I'm dead serious, prove what I posted is a lie, and yes, I do expect a serious response.



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LIAMD

Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2013, 05:39:42 PM
OK son, then prove me wrong, I'm dead serious, prove what I posted is a lie, and yes, I do expect a serious response.



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Solar

Quote from: LIAMD on December 01, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
Game, set, match...next player  :thumbup:
There it is in Black and White, but he refuses to accept the truth. Amazing!
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Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
There it is in Black and White, but he refuses to accept the truth. Amazing!

Allow me...



And he calls us delusional and claims we are out of touch with reality... :rolleyes:

-Darth

Solar

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 01, 2013, 09:10:59 PM
Allow me...



And he calls us delusional and claims we are out of touch with reality... :rolleyes:

-Darth
Too bad it can't happen in real life. :laugh:

When he comes back, pull it up again and make him acknowledge it and see what he has to say.
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Cryptic Bert

Has anyone noticed that when you research Socialism and Communism Marx and Engels are always mentioned.

OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST!




Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on December 02, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Has anyone noticed that when you research Socialism and Communism Marx and Engels are always mentioned.

OBAMA IS NOT A MARXIST!


Like the married guy that hangs out at gay bars, picks up strangers on business trips, claims he isn't gay.

If it quacks like a duck.....
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Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
So the fact that he joined a communist party is suddenly irrelevant?

So when I ask for evidence that he's a Marxist you respond by pointing out that he's a Marxist?   :laugh:

Cryptic Bert

And Scifi fool throws in the towel...

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on December 02, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
And Scifi fool throws in the towel...
That's his way of surrendering.
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Quote from: Solar on December 02, 2013, 05:14:06 PM
That's his way of surrendering.

And I think he accidentally admitted it. Holy crap! Feddy has a sister...

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