Quote from: LIAMD on November 29, 2013, 10:08:23 AM
Yup, a delusional troll....

In other words, you have none.   

Here's some facts that show how is statements and actions follow the book of Marx and Saul Alinsky.

1.) He openly and consistently calls for more tax burden on the wealthy ("you didn't earn that")
2.) Supports the Fairness Doctrine; attempting to limit (or eliminate) free speech of any media sources not following the script (calling out Fox and several folks by name...not very Presidential IMO)
3.) Expands the role and power of a central bank and control over the financial markets (Dodd-Frank)
4.) Uses the central bank to mask his failed policy via successive QE's (arguably more damaging than the AHA when this bill comes due)
5.) Made sure the labor unions were first served in the GM bailout (when the unions and their grossly out of touch labor contracts were largely responsible for GM's failure)
6.) Selectively chooses which markets get tax payer booty (as opposed to letting the free markets chart the direction...can you say Solindra)

There are plenty of other examples and many have already been made by others answering your boring replay button.  Looking forward to your evidence that he is not a Marxist.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 29, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
You really think a fuzzy image of unknown origin is supposed to constitute "evidence" now?   

How about you get off your lazy ass and present extensive documentation, records and something that could actually hold up a case in court, rather than the tea bagger equivalent of this:



OH MY GOD IT'S ALIENS!!!!!!

You're too easy to bait.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/07/report-new-documents-show-obama-was-a-member-of-the-far-left-new-party/

Quote from: LIAMD on November 29, 2013, 02:58:59 PM
Here's some facts that show how is statements and actions follow the book of Marx and Saul Alinsky.

Except they actually don't.   

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1.) He openly and consistently calls for more tax burden on the wealthy ("you didn't earn that")

Progressive tax systems are not Marxist.   

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2.) Supports the Fairness Doctrine; attempting to limit (or eliminate) free speech of any media sources not following the script (calling out Fox and several folks by name...not very Presidential IMO)

WTF does this have to do with Marxism?   

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3.) Expands the role and power of a central bank and control over the financial markets (Dodd-Frank)

WTF does this have to do with Marxism?

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4.) Uses the central bank to mask his failed policy via successive QE's (arguably more damaging than the AHA when this bill comes due)

WTF does this have to do with Marxism?

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5.) Made sure the labor unions were first served in the GM bailout (when the unions and their grossly out of touch labor contracts were largely responsible for GM's failure)

All communist regimes I know of abolished private unions because they're, you know, private organizations.

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6.) Selectively chooses which markets get tax payer booty (as opposed to letting the free markets chart the direction...can you say Solindra)

WTF does this have to do with Marxism?

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There are plenty of other examples and many have already been made by others answering your boring replay button.  Looking forward to your evidence that he is not a Marxist.

The job isn't on me to prove a negative, buddy, and it's clear from your reply that you have no clue what Marxism actually is, outside of some vague umbrella term to cover any progressive policies that keep you awake at night.  So unless if you can provide some quotes from, say, Marx's manifesto linking Obama's actions to anything Marx ever advocated, ie. complete abolishment of private capital, I don't see the point of this conversation going any further.

All my points are spot on but I realize that you, like most of Barry's mindless sheep, simply have a hard time dealing with these facts.  One would think the Marxist connection would be cause for celebration; after all it has taken many years to infiltrate the Republic...oh well, add it the long list of contradictions.  I completely understand if you want to pick up your toys and go home.  Drop us a line on your next re-entry into our solar system.

Quote from: LIAMD on November 30, 2013, 06:53:53 PM
All my points are spot on but I realize that you, like most of Barry's mindless sheep, simply have a hard time dealing with these facts.  One would think the Marxist connection would be cause for celebration; after all it has taken many years to infiltrate the Republic...oh well, add it the long list of contradictions.  I completely understand if you want to pick up your toys and go home.  Drop us a line on your next re-entry into our solar system.

They have a hard time explaining Barry's words and actions. SO they obfuscate, deflect and play word game. Trillions have been spent on the war on poverty with little to show for it.

Quote from: LIAMD on November 29, 2013, 02:58:59 PM
Here's some facts that show how is statements and actions follow the book of Marx and Saul Alinsky.

1.) He openly and consistently calls for more tax burden on the wealthy ("you didn't earn that")
2.) Supports the Fairness Doctrine; attempting to limit (or eliminate) free speech of any media sources not following the script (calling out Fox and several folks by name...not very Presidential IMO)
3.) Expands the role and power of a central bank and control over the financial markets (Dodd-Frank)
4.) Uses the central bank to mask his failed policy via successive QE's (arguably more damaging than the AHA when this bill comes due)
5.) Made sure the labor unions were first served in the GM bailout (when the unions and their grossly out of touch labor contracts were largely responsible for GM's failure)
6.) Selectively chooses which markets get tax payer booty (as opposed to letting the free markets chart the direction...can you say Solindra)

There are plenty of other examples and many have already been made by others answering your boring replay button.  Looking forward to your evidence that he is not a Marxist.

The childish game he plays is simple. Because some of your examples can be attributed to other ideologies aside from Marxism Obama cannot be considered a Marxist. It scrapping the bottom of the barrel...

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 30, 2013, 01:06:44 PM
Progressive tax systems are not Marxist.   

Really? That would be news to Herr Marx and his buddy Engles!

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Directly from The Communist Manifesto itself (Chapter 2, Prolitarians and Communists)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

You do know who wrote the Communist Manifesto, don't you?
-Darth

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 30, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
Really? That would be news to Herr Marx and his buddy Engles!

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Directly from The Communist Manifesto itself (Chapter 2, Prolitarians and Communists)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

You do know who wrote the Communist Manifesto, don't you?
-Darth

You don't really think he understands the topics he argues do you?

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 30, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
Really? That would be news to Herr Marx and his buddy Engles!

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

Directly from The Communist Manifesto itself (Chapter 2, Prolitarians and Communists)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

You do know who wrote the Communist Manifesto, don't you?
-Darth

I clicked on your link. Then I went to the bathroom and washed my mouse finger, and I went to the utility room and got the window cleaner and a paper towel and cleaned my monitor, and I dragged the shop-vac in here and sucked all the crap off the keyboard. Then I rebooted the whole system.

Eeeeewwwwww.

The one thing we have to keep in mind is Liberals never tell us their true intent because they would never get elected...

QuoteEqual liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture

In Cambodia the communists forced 99% of all citizens to work in rice production and rice production fell by 90%. Communism would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrible.

Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 30, 2013, 01:06:44 PM
All communist regimes I know of abolished private unions because they're, you know, private organizations.

Really, then why are most unions backed by communists?
Quite the conundrum you've got going on there, but think about this, why would commies back unions, only to obliterate them in the end. Hint, ACORN.
But still waiting for you to disprove Hussein isn't a commie.
Do I need to bring John Drew in here to wake you up again? I swear, you must have some sort of mental disorder, one that allows you to ignore the truth of reality and continue on living you delusion.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 30, 2013, 11:38:35 PM
I clicked on your link. Then I went to the bathroom and washed my mouse finger, and I went to the utility room and got the window cleaner and a paper towel and cleaned my monitor, and I dragged the shop-vac in here and sucked all the crap off the keyboard. Then I rebooted the whole system.

Eeeeewwwwww.

Sorry... Guess I should have posted a warning!

However, it was necessary. Some Liberal Drones don't even know what it is they are truly fighting for. Incapable of independent thought,  they blindly regurgitate their puppetmaster's talking points and think of themselves as sophisticated and intelligent for doing so!

-Darth

Watch the first 4 minutes, but warning, it's near impossible to tun off after that.

Trevor Loudon talks about Barack Obama's Past and America's Future