Quote from: taxed on August 13, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
Looks like I missed all the fun!

It appears Trip is Sioux's younger brother...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2013, 11:29:24 AM
It appears Trip is Sioux's younger brother...

I'm going to go through the thread later on today.  Can you give me the punch line?

Quote from: taxed on August 13, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
I'm going to go through the thread later on today.  Can you give me the punch line?

It's quite a "Trip".

Quote from: taxed on August 13, 2013, 11:30:51 AM
I'm going to go through the thread later on today.  Can you give me the punch line?

Elections don't matter
Voters are irrelevant
Anyone that does not agree with Trip is a Socialist
Oh and apparently Solar drools...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2013, 11:32:31 AM
Elections don't matter
Voters are irrelevant
Anyone that does not agree with Trip is a Socialist
Oh and apparently Solar drools...

Quote from: taxed on August 13, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
Looks like I missed all the fun!

Only if you enjoy tail chasing games. 

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2013, 11:32:31 AM
Elections don't matter

Interesting.

QuoteVoters are irrelevant

Wow.

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Anyone that does not agree with Trip is a Socialist
Oh and apparently Solar drools...

This will be interesting...

Quote from: taxed on August 13, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
Looks like I missed all the fun!

Your hour to be awake at the home, eh?

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 13, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Only if you enjoy tail chasing games. 

Congress and Obama are mostly out of the news, so what ELSE we gonna talk about, hey?

Wait. You used two smileys. That's obvious communist tendencies which I will point out in totally spontaneous remarks containing both text indents and bullet-point symbols. Not that peppering your posts with features from this laughable software is necessarily a BAD thing, but hey --- two smileys, you're a Red. Just admit and agree with it, Comrade, you're busted because I said so.

Quote from: quiller on August 13, 2013, 09:41:53 AM
Aw, you had to go ruin it dragging in THAT babbling loon. But you're right. Don't feed the trolls, and THIS close-minded know-it-all surely fits that same description.

"limps across the finish line...."  OOOG!!!!!!

I am actually a decent poet, doing that for about 45 years.......is there a poetry forum lol  ?

Quote from: AndyJackson on August 13, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
I am actually a decent poet, doing that for about 45 years.......is there a poetry forum lol  ?

No, but I've got an image for every conservative of every flavor who ever got out of bed or off the porch and actually made something of their lives. I've had this since about 1960 and rendered it a few years ago as my first Internet image uplink.

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
Wrong!!!
This exposes your ignorance of human nature.
Right now, we have a movement underway, one that IS facilitating change, but you, for some strange reason seem to believe you have an army waiting in the wings for your beckon call, but have yet to show evidence of your claims.

"Facilitating change"?  So you immediately regurgitate the Marxist buzzword "change", and you give up the high ground of that we're actually wanting is not "change",  but rather  "restoration" of legitimate government. 

In one small paragraph you've reduced the argument from one of a grounded position in the Constitution, to a lesser battle allowing your enemy equal position based on populism, engaging that enemy entirely on their terms, on their ground!!! 

Earlier "someone" mentioned Sun Tzu's Art of War. What you're doing is entirely contrary to what Tzu indicates! What you've given us is "Solar's Art of Defeat"!

And you say you actually grasp human nature? You're actually exhibiting an astonishing ignorance of human nature, while embedding the weakness of your own Constitutional disregard in the very argument and approach!

And AGAIN you make yet another strawman, when I' never mentioned an "army", or needing one!

In this movement that "we" have "underway", what exactly are its objectives, and what are its interim goals to meet those objectives?

If you mean the tea parties, their only interim plan, as I previously referenced, is to go "grassroots" and  engage local action in elections.   However,  as I also previously pointed out, this itself is blind in actually reducing what we are GUARANTEED  by the Constitution to being subject to the election process, and populist will!

By that plan, if we lose those elections, then we lost our rights and freedoms, and if we win those elections, we have corrupted the intent of the election process, and reduced this country's form of government to being derived from Democratic populist opinion.  Ultimately what few constitutional provisions that might have been recovered WILL ultimately be lost,  even if only by being progressively degraded again, but at a far greater rate, due to the corruption of the purpose of elections!

That's not a plan!  That's a LOSE-LOSE scenario!

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
Sure, I can claim that the next POTUS will be a solid Conservative, just because I say so, but don't ask me to provide proof, because just like you, I'd expose what a fool I am.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to convey here; it's nothing but sloppy logic.

Are you trying to say that you can actually guarantee the next POTUS will be a solid conservative? Or just saying that you can make the claim, implying that I have made such a claim myself.

NO, I've never made any sort of claim about the "next POTUS" being a Conservative.  That's yet another strawman on your part.  What I have said is that this battle has to be engaged on a solid foundation of this country's principles or it will be lost.  You don't even start with a solid foundation, and then not only sacrifice those principles, but begin engaging your battle entirely on the enemy's terms, and by a means that they CHOOSE to battle, Populist opinion and corrupted application of elections,  and ultimate defeat your end goal.

You speak of a "solid Conservative" but I've yet to see even a hint from you that you know what that is, much less any willingness to consider the terms.  You've made it more than clear that the term "Conservative", from your perspective, really does not involve the Constitution, and this is the sort of Corruption that has Republican idiots referring to Romney as if he were any sort of Conservative.

The point of ensuring the Constitution's application, is not to just get a "Conservative" in office, but rather to ensure that EVERYONE in office adheres to the limits of the Constitution,  not just Conservatives!  You've engaged an argument just like Boo, which implicitly accepts that elections are to determine if the constitution is to be applied or not! That's not what elections are for, and it forever corrupts our government.

Also in the above passage, in referencing POTUS, you're acting as if that's the most important position in the government, an Imperial Office, when it's not. President is only intended to be a limited Administrative position, and not wielding dictatorial powers, with the source of power from legislation coming from Congress.  There aren't supposed to be government agencies under the President's authority that have such a wide latitude in their powers that they can enact anything into law on their own, much less enact things into law that Congress itself has refused to enact into law!

By your response,  you've already thrown out Separation of Powers, and discarded yet another enormous piece of the Constitution that serves to protect our rights!

Quote from: Solar on August 13, 2013, 11:26:14 AM
Trip, give it up, all you're managing to do is look even more foolish with your every post.
Just making claims as to how things should be as opposed to what is actually taking place is an is validating the very definition of insanity.

Let Shenanigans hold first place as forum fool, you don't want Trip to become synonymous with fool, now do you?
That would be a "Trip".

Your UTTER AND COMPLETE IGNORANCE of the principles of our government, and disregard for the Constitution itself, does not constitute my "foolishness".

Not only is your approach naive and foolish, but it GUARANTEES the utter collapse of the Constitution and complete denial of our rights!   Like the rest of the stuff that the Republican RINOs are doing, it only goes over the cliff not-quite-as-fast as the Progressive Marxists, but it ensures we go over that cliff, and by those Marxist's terms!

Everything you've written, above, is so seriously screwed up that it's mind-boggling, exhibiting a frame of mind having no real grasp of the Constitution and our form of governance.

The next time you bandy about the term RINO, you don't need to search far to apply it: just look in a damn mirror!

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2013, 11:29:24 AM
It appears Trip is Sioux's younger brother...

Your other sibling says your Mother birthed an idiot.

Quote from: Trip on August 13, 2013, 01:17:33 PM
Your other sibling says your Mother birthed an idiot.

And straight to the family-member insults, like any other Internet troll caught peddling bulk-rate propaganda. Yup. Fits one more check-off on the advisory list. Try coming in to the right and spew crap, they'll take you really seriously, yessir......

Any time...Cupcake.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 13, 2013, 11:32:31 AM
Oh and apparently Solar drools...

Yeah, but not so's Toy would notice.