Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2013, 08:33:19 PM
Hey, if it's Tax's hour to be awake, maybe he can tell us Windows XP folks how to find out if an e-mail BCC was really all that private. Isn't there a clue in the metadata somewhere?

Windows privacy? You crack me up.

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Windows privacy? You crack me up.

Dazzle me, ace. Slap me upside my melon with the wiggiest hip-shakin' flame-throwin' display of unbridled geekery. What clues do I look for, and how?

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
Dazzle me, ace. Slap me upside my melon with the wiggiest hip-shakin' flame-throwin' display of unbridled geekery. What clues do I look for, and how?

Ahhh, you tax my memory when I used to use IE mail.
I think it's under file in the upper left, one of the options gives most of what you ask, I think.

When it comes to privacy and Windows, forget it, the NSA has a kernel neatly tucked away in it's language.

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
Dazzle me, ace. Slap me upside my melon with the wiggiest hip-shakin' flame-throwin' display of unbridled geekery. What clues do I look for, and how?

I said that once. She turned out to be Vice and I went away for a spell...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 12, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
I said that once. She turned out to be Vice and I went away for a spell...

I searched him. Not willingly but I did it.

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
I searched him. Not willingly but I did it.

If you held out he would have paid you...

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 12, 2013, 05:07:07 PM
I'll recap for you. He has a master plan that will restore the country to the way it was envisioned to be by the Founders. His plan involves a revolution or a coup. After the coup a Constitutional government will be installed and everything will be awesome in four years. If you do not agree with his awesome plan you are a raving Socialist. If you ask for specifics he will call you names and then run and hide behind his mothers apron...

While it is a master plan, it is not "his" (mine).

While it was a "plan" it was actually already enacted, in place, and working, more than 200 years ago, so it can no longer be described as a "plan."   It is our form of government.

The actual "revolution or coup" is currently taking place to overthrow the form of government that resulted from that plan.   A "coup", or revolution, is actually the resistance to the legitimate government in an attempt to overthrow it,  not just government pretending to be legitimate.

Nothing indicated involves everything  being "awesome in four years."  However if "we" don't insist on legitimate government under the Constitution, then we are validating your illegitimate government, which seems to be the point of your whole post.

Either you are incredibly stupid, or  you are the amazing byproduct of a sort of "brain washing" in your continual application of inaccurate  Orwellian concepts.   

Curiously you refuse to recognize that Solar's "plan" is no plan at all, but actually is a generalized goal of not making waves,  with

• no expression of what will be restored and when, 
• no  indication of why he's choosing what to be restored, 
• no indication of what and why the order is of what is to be restored, 
• no indication of time-frame from start to finish of this prolonged restoration, and
• no indication of how to actually implement that restoration.

But some of you actually imagine this might be "a plan", and yet obviously don't see that this non-plan will never occur, and will only corrupt what we can recognize now to be "legitimate government" by what part of it that might actually occur.   

This is no plan at all; this is only a suicide pact to make you all feel comfy and secure,  as if you're actually doing something, while government precedes to your enslavement.  Nothing but Cognitive Dissonance.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 12, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
If you held out he would have paid you...

 

I fell for that same scam the last time when he rolled in here in the Greta Garbo outfit and he asked me if his seams were straight. They were tattoos, and it cost me a fortune in shrinks to forget just how I know that.

Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2013, 03:43:06 PM
Same here, war is failed politics. Personally I want the system to work, not fail.

They're relyig on that.   They're relying on you and others being that ignorant.

"THIS IS NOTHING BUT POLTICS FOLKS. DONT BE VIOLENT AND JUST GO AND SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!"

Seriously, every time you open your mouth you're sounding more and more like a communist plant, becaust I honestly don't think that anyone can be that stupid, particularly not someone calling themselves a Conservative.


One can sift through those "political events" and see them deliberately working to classify things as "politics" that are not.  And they're running repeated test balloons to see if these concepts "fly", and we are brain-warped enough to be enslaved again. 

Do you remember the House passing the Global Warming legislation?   The Bill actually created a global warming gestapo that could come to a person's home, that was previously legal under the state's local building codes, and then declare that house insufficient to federal climate standards,  But not only that, they would charge the owner  with being an "unlawful occupant" (their words) in their own home, not on a monthly basis, but on a daily basis.    Even one Representative recognized this was virtually identical to the 3rd Amendment's quartering of troops, and our not having actual ownership of our own homes.

When the public  outcry grew too great, after the House actually passed this, they moved on to Health Care.

Immediately afterwards  the next task they engaged was government  actually asserting ownership of the individual under ObamaCare, something grossly unconstitutional. Yet  among all the people on this board here, NO ONE will still pronounce it unconstitutional except me.   

Do you actually believe it is reasonable for a Supreme Court Chief Justice to write 70% of an opinion that entirely rejects ObamaCare and then, at the last minute, flip his vote from to supporting it, saying it's actually entirely constitutional from his sudden recognition of a plenary taxing authority for the federal government (which doesn't even exist)?     

How is it possible that they had these two ENORMOUS bills, ready to be voted on, yet unread, each thousands of pages, and they still managed to get these bills through to be voted on?

And what does Roberts actually say in that PPACA opinion, prominently, despite its utter lack of rationality?  Roberts indicates it's "not his job to protect people  from their bad political choices.".

HOW the hell is government's ownership of citizen's merely a political choice, much less just a "bad" one?  How the hell did the people even make that political choice when more than 50% of them rejected ObamaCare from the start?  How the hell does anythng but an incompetent Chief Justice forget his oath to the Constitution, and imagine that people can compel far more than "bad political choices" on others, actually enslaving them to the government, with government violating or annulling A FULL 80% OF THAT BILL OF RIGHTS? 

One of the few parts of that Bill of Rights left out is that 3rd Amendment, which was curiously assaulted by that Climate Change legislation, and the other being the 2nd Amendment, with it being under assault by a "coincidental" gun massacre in a school.

Do you actually think these are just chance occurrences, and not actual "test balloons"? The convenient  thing about these test balloons (for them)  is they can float them up, and see how people react, see how adequately people are enslaved, without exposing themselves to attack.  After all, it's only "politics"   

And what has been going during all these legislative efforts? The ever-increasing enslavement of the people - our being groped by the TSA, which has now advanced to random street stops,  our being listened in to and all our data being collected, which, oops.,  they just told us in a leak,  and drones in our skies, and repeated Martial Law exercises in our cities, all habituating us to a police state.

If you doubt the existence of these "test balloons", then what do you think this regime was  actually expressing (more than once) when it indicated, "don't let a serious crisis go to waste", and we've gone from one crisis to another.  Beck recognized these trial balloons in his book the "The Overton Window", which is a political theory that describes as a narrow "window" the range of ideas the public will accept, and this regime has been continually adjusting that window by various means. 

This thread is a standing example of how warped we ourselves have become in what we've been trained to accept.

All of this barrage upon us is not mere coincidence, but rather deliberately and methodically being done by groups that are NOT our Congress, but influence our Congress,  to change our mind-set, with the ultimate goal of enslaving us.

Yet here Solar are telling us it is "ONLY POLITICS", and if we resist, if we rise even only in defense, not even raising arms, against this GROSSLY tyrannous government action going on all around us,  which government has no authority to engage,  WE ARE JUST FAILING AT POLITICS?   

But "VOTE HARDER, COMRADE!"

I don't know you, Solar,  but I am curious to know if you'd actually have said and believed these things only five years ago.   No, I don't want your perspective on that at this point, because either way, I'm not sure I could trust it.

I sincerely don't have the ability to display my utter contempt for everything you're saying, but this has  now climaxed to the worst, and its coming from a guy who alleges himself to be a Conservative, on a Conservative forum.   

Now our standing up for our rights, and using force to defend them, is just "failed politics", making our freedoms be subject to political whim.

This is nowhere any ideology of the founders, and is entirely in conflict with those founders, but it is the ideology of statism itself, that our primary obligation is to the state, no matter what form it may assume, making us neo-serfs living our lives in obligation to the state .

• That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
  
  But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Nowhere in those noble words would this nation's founders be able to dismiss what is going on as "just politics", much less characterize  our DUTY to react to it as "failed politics".

If anyone here is able to grasp what I am expressing,  speak now,  or forever hold your peace.

Quote from: Trip on August 12, 2013, 10:08:06 PM
They're relyig on that.   They're relying on you and others being that ignorant.

"THIS IS NOTHING BUT POLTICS FOLKS. DONT BE VIOLENT AND JUST GO AND SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!!"

Seriously, every time you open your mouth you're sounding more and more like a communist plant, becaust I honestly don't think that anyone can be that stupid, particularly not someone calling themselves a Conservative.


One can sift there those "poltical events" and see them deliberately try to classify things as "politics" that are not.  And they're running test balloons to see if these concepts "fly", and we brain-warped enough to be enslaved again. 

Do you remember the House passing the Global Warming legislation?   The Bill actually in it created a global warming gestapo that could come to a person's home, that was previously legal under the states local building codes, and then declare that house insufficient to federal climate standards,  But not on that, they would charge the indivdual with being an unlawful occupant in their own home, not on a monthly basis, but on a daily basis.    Even in the House one guy recognized this was virtually identical to the 3rd Amendment's quartering of troops, and our having actual ownership of the homes.

When the public  outcry grew too great, after the House actually passed this, they moved on to Health Care.

Immediately afterwards  the next task is government is actually asserting ownership of the individual under ObamaCare, something grossly unconstitutional. Yet in all the people on this board here, NO ONE will still pronounce it unconstitutional except me.   

Do you actually believe it is reasonable for a Supreme Court Chief Justice to write 70% of an opinion that entirely rejects ObamaCare, and then at the last minute, flip his vote from to supporting it, saying it's actually entirely constitutional from his sudden recognition of a plenary taxing authority for the federal government (which doesn't even exist)?     

How is it possible that they had these two ENORMOUS bills, ready to be voted on, unread, thousands of pages apiece, and that they managed to get them through to be voted on?

And what does Roberts actually say in that opinion, prominently, despite its utter lack of rationality?Roberts indicates it's "not his job to protect people  from their bad political choices.".

HOW the hell is government's ownership of citizen's merely a bad political choice?  How the hell did the people even make that political choice when more than 50% of them rejected ObamaCare from the start?  How the hell does Anythng but a judicial incompetent forget his oath to the Constitution, and imagine that people can compel far more than "bad political choices" on others, actually enslaving them to the government, and government violating or annulling A FULL 80% OF THAT BILL OF RIGHTS? 

One of the few parts of that Bill of Rights left out is that 3rd Amendment, which was curiously assaulted by Climate Change legislation.

Do you actually think these are just chance occurrence, and not actual "test balloons"? THe nice things about these test balloons is they can float them up, and see how people reacts, see how adequately people are enslaved.  And what has been going during all this legislation? THe ever-increasing enslavement of the people - our being groped by the TSA, which has now advanced to random street stops,  our being listened in to and alll our data being collected, and oops.,  they just told us in a leak,  and drones in our skies, and Repeated Militial Law practice in our cities.

If you doubt the existence of these "test balloons", then what do you think this regime was  actually expressing (more than once) when it indicated, "don't let a serious crisis go to waste", and we've gone from one crisis to another.  Beck recognized these trial balloons in his book the "The Overton Window", which is a political theory that describes as a narrow "window" the range of ideas the public will accept, and this regime has been continually adjusting that window by various means. 

This thread is a standing example of how warped what we've been trained to accept has become.

All of this barrage upon us is not mere coincidence, but rather being deliberately and methodically being done by groups that are NOT our Congress, but influence our Congress,  to change our mind-set, with the ultimate goal of enslaving us.

Yet here Solar are telling us it is "ONLY POLITICS", and if we resist, if we rise even only in defense, not even raising arms, against this GROSSLY tyrannous government action going on all around us,  which government has no authority to engage,  WE ARE JUST FAILING AT POLITICS?   

But "VOTE HARDER, COMRADE!"

I don't know you, Solar,  but I am curious to know if you'd actually have said and believed these things only five years ago.   No, I don't want your perspective on that at this point, because either way, I'm not sure I could trust it.

I sincerely don't have the ability to display my utter contempt for everything you're saying, virtually every  time you open your mouth in this thread, but this has  now climaxed to the worst.  Everything you're indicating is not just a little disturbing, but disturbing to the max, and its coming from a guy who alleges himself to be a Conservative, on a Conservative forum.   

Now our standing up for our rights, and using force to defend them, is just "failed politics", making our freedoms be subject to politica whim  This is nowhere any ideology of the founders, and is entirely in conflict with those founders, but it is the ideology of statism itself, that our primary obligation is to the state, no matter what form it may assume, making us neo-serfs living our lives in obligation to the state .

• That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
  
  But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Nowhere in those noble words would this nation's founders be able at all to dismiss what is going on as "just "politics", much less characterize  our DUTY to react to it as "failed politics".

If anyone here is able to grasp what I am expressing,  speak now,  or forever hold your peace.

Quote from: Trip on August 12, 2013, 02:37:20 PM
I had to answer your post before Boo's because in answering Boo's I intend to throw the full force of the Constitution at him, and there'd be noting leftover for you.

What are you waiting for coward?

More cut and paste, forcing anyone who replies to ALSO have a long post saying who knows what to who knows who. Joy of joys! We get pages with four posts each.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 12, 2013, 01:37:49 PM
Oh I see!

Elections don't matter
Voters are irrelevant
Voters are eneablers


You grand plan is to act by executive fiat. A four year monarchy. Grand idea champ.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 12, 2013, 10:13:29 PM

Quote from: Trip on August 12, 2013, 02:37:20 PMhad to answer your post before Boo's because in answering Boo's I intend to throw the full force of the Constitution at him, and there'd be noting leftover for you.

What are you waiting for coward?

No, you still don't see.  I gave you this answer in a less-thorough form previously, but you obviously your level ignorance is quite resilient and resistant to remedy.

Elections were pretty much irrelevant since the start of this country.   The founders did everything in their power to ensure that elections, the populist vote of the people, would do have the least effect on our government, and no effect on our form of government and what it might do:

• The election of Senators by state legislators, making them able to be recalled at the whim of that state legislatures;
• The election of President by the electoral Collect, and not actually by any direct populist election;
• The Supremacy Clause which indicates that the Constitution is the Law of the Land (not the voters, or the laws), and those laws are only valid if they are "pursuant to" the Constitution;
• The fact that even state laws, and foreign treaties must be "pursuant to" the Constitution;
• The Article 1, Section 8 "necessary and proper" clause that likewise indicates that those laws must be pursuant to the Constitution;
• The structure of the Constitution, and the specific enumerated powers to government, being based on the unalienable rights of individuals, not the result of an election;
• The further affirmation of these rights by the inclusion of the Bill of Rights;
• The Article II requirement that the office of President must be a natural born citizen, with this being unaffected, nor made irrelevant,  and by any popular vote.

Nowhere, not any where in the U.S. Constitution, NOR the writings of any of this nation's founders, is voting upheld as some noble undertaking in this Republic, much less one that is able to change what is done legitimately by government.   

Not even the adoption of the Constitution itself was done by any popular election, yet it is still described as "We, the people" and a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people". 

How do you imagine this might be true if populist elections were somehow sacred?

Even when voting is recognized by the Constitution, even in more recent amendments, the expression "right to vote" is only a rhetorical facility referencing the electoral franchise, with there being no actual positive right to vote recognized anywhere in the Constitution.  In fact the idea of voting being "a right" is ridiculous, as it involves others having to actively serve that alleged right. 

The idea of "the vote" being somehow sacred is in no way an ideology of this country, and is actually Socialism/Marxism.   Voting only allows one to determine who goes into office, how that office is populated, and then those office occupants determine to their best effect, what legislation that body might write, but that still must  always be "pursuant to" the Constitution.

And by the way, Boo, none of my plan involves any sort of "executive fiat", but that is what we have now in this corrupt form of government, fiat from all three branches of government, with the Executive, intended only to be an administrative post, now actually acting as more of an Imperial office.  The terms of the government are already established; why is that so difficult for your simpleton brain to grasp? 

So you can Take your "coward" and stick it where the sun don't shine, Boob, I mean Boo.

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2013, 10:16:19 PM
More cut and paste, forcing anyone who replies to ALSO have a long post saying who knows what to who knows who. Joy of joys! We get pages with four posts each.

Yes, you're a drooler too.

Nothing  I wrote was any sort of "cut and paste".  I wrote it originally myself for that post.

And since my post actually defines things like "test (trial) balloons", and shows how government has been deliberately, methodically altering the perspective of the population, my post actually makes it easier for respondents to not type so much.

But don't worry, I am still certain that my post will not influence your determination to not think so much.

Do us all a favor and just drop to your knees, accept the chains, and prepare to lick the hand that feeds you. It will save us all a lot of time in wasted discussion.

• If ye love wealth greater than liberty,
  the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom,
  go home from us in peace.
  We seek not your counsel, nor your arms.
  Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you;
  May your chains set lightly upon you,
  and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
  
  ~Samuel Adams

You don't have to take my word that there's no actual right to vote.

Just do a Google search, and one can find lots of Leftist Socialists insisting that the Constitution be amended  to include an actual right to vote.

You're in good company if you  think that there's some sacred right to vote, and that it is important in this country,  able even can determine what government might do,  along with people like Jonathan Soros, son of globalist  George Soros:

"The Missing Right: A Constitutional Right to Vote" Jonathan Soros, Spring 2013

Yeah, be proud, be very proud, Boo. You keep awesome company.  At least Soros recognizes voting is not an actual right.



(In Reply 222, above, in the bulleted list, I actually meant "Electoral College".)

Ah, me. I was wondering what I had missed by refraining from opening this marvelous thread about whatever Chrissy Matthews had to opine, ( I am not a fan ) and I was enticed in by the seemingly soon to be sight of blood in the water as the Great White circled for the kill in another thread. Upon reading just a couple of pages, it soon became evident as to what I had missed of noteworthy relevance. 'Twas indeed a waste of endeavors on my part. Carry on, Gentlemen, parting is in no way, sweet sorrow, but welcomed relief.