As I understand it, Iran is wiling to limit enrichment to under 4 % and allow inspections but IMO Israel wants war. Judge Nap should be great Friday.

Former CIA Ray McGovern says CIA Dulles hoped to "mousetrap"  JFK at the Bay of Pigs.  I.e. the Cuban exiles ere trapped on the beach so the US would have to enter the fight. JFK refused.  Israel may want the same thing if Iran clobbers Israel with rockets but Iran has been very measured so far.

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Quote from: patentlymn on June 12, 2025, 06:23:39 PMAs I understand it, Iran is wiling to limit enrichment to under 4 % and allow inspections but IMO Israel wants war. Judge Nap should be great Friday.

When your enemy calls you little Satan and Great Satan, and tells you they want to destroy you, you believe them.
No one wants war, and Iran was given the option to stop producing nuclear weapons.
Iran refused and left Israel with no other option but to destroy Iran's ability to hold any kind of war.

So far, it looks like Ayatollah Ali Khamenei survived, so far.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 01:34:43 AMWhen your enemy calls you little Satan and Great Satan, and tells you they want to destroy you, you believe them.
No one wants war, and Iran was given the option to stop producing nuclear weapons.
Iran refused and left Israel with no other option but to destroy Iran's ability to hold any kind of war.

So far, it looks like Ayatollah Ali Khamenei survived, so far.

I have not followed this in detail. I think that Iran was open to limiting enrichment to 3.7 % and inspections.  Israel demands removing all enrichment equipment, and stopping all support for enemies of Israel in the region. Maybe removing their ballistic missiles?  There are civilian uses for the 3.7% uranium

IMO Israel wants war on Iran and wants the US to do this. Israel may call out for US help after Iran retaliates.

Israel smuggled in small drones ahead of time and used them to take out the Iranian air defense.

Some analysis on judge Nap. These guys were not anti Trump at the time of his election win.

https://youtu.be/Vp91gF8mMvM
 
INTEL Roundtable w/ Johnson & McGovern : Weekly Wrap 12-June  28 min.


Alex is a good daily news aggregator. He seems  depressed over Trump not being anti war. He says this Israel attack was mostly a decapitation attack.
https://youtu.be/qddwPeU5Ow4?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
Alex Christoforou
Iran regime change. Trump, more war coming. Rubio unilateral strike. Bibi in Greece? Oil price jumps 34 min.

Wilkerson is very knowledgeable.
https://youtu.be/0oGP6bj1F8Q?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
COL. Lawrence Wilkerson : Foreign Policy in Chaos. 21 min.

Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 01:58:24 PMI have not followed this in detail. I think that Iran was open to limiting enrichment to 3.7 % and inspections.  Israel demands removing all enrichment equipment, and stopping all support for enemies of Israel in the region. Maybe removing their ballistic missiles?  There are civilian uses for the 3.7% uranium

IMO Israel wants war on Iran and wants the US to do this. Israel may call out for US help after Iran retaliates.

Israel smuggled in small drones ahead of time and used them to take out the Iranian air defense.

Some analysis on judge Nap. These guys were not anti Trump at the time of his election win.

https://youtu.be/Vp91gF8mMvM

 
INTEL Roundtable w/ Johnson & McGovern : Weekly Wrap 12-June  28 min.


Alex is a good daily news aggregator. He seems  depressed over Trump not being anti war. He says this Israel attack was mostly a decapitation attack.
https://youtu.be/qddwPeU5Ow4?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
Alex Christoforou
Iran regime change. Trump, more war coming. Rubio unilateral strike. Bibi in Greece? Oil price jumps 34 min.

Wilkerson is very knowledgeable.
https://youtu.be/0oGP6bj1F8Q?list=TLPQMTMwNjIwMjWc5r0ozo-ZrA
COL. Lawrence Wilkerson : Foreign Policy in Chaos. 21 min.

Do you know the difference between enrichment and highly enriched? Trump warned the Ayatollah that they would be bombed back to the Stone Age if they didn't give up their enrichment program, yet they kept saying they had a right to do so.
When Iran refused, Trump said there would be a regime change and Israel would make it happen.

That was just the first softening of the target; it will intensify as weeks go by, or until Iran concedes.. 
Remember, this is not just about Israel, Hezbollah, Houthi Etc. and all their factions have sleeper cells across the globe.
If they aren't stopped today, their terrorist threats won't be limited to the M/E.

Oh, and Judge Nap is an Idiot! That's why he no longer gets airtime.

As a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:32:49 PMAs a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

Every leader in Iran, from the most powerful to those who have less, know Israel can take them out anytime they want. There must be hundreds of Iranians feeding information to Israelis in order to track down the evil ones with such precision.

Looking back over Trump's statements over the past couple of weeks, he played Iran like a finely tuned fiddle. They never saw what was coming. And the democrats got played even worse.

Quote from: Possum on Today at 02:40:53 PMEvery leader in Iran, from the most powerful to those who have less, know Israel can take them out anytime they want. There must be hundreds of Iranians feeding information to Israelis in order to track down the evil ones with such precision.

Looking back over Trump's statements over the past couple of weeks, he played Iran like a finely tuned fiddle. They never saw what was coming. And the democrats got played even worse.

Agree. I once read that the US and Israel have thousands of spies embedded in every aspect of the Iranian government.
It's no surprise to see Iran hit with such precision, only to see such a weak response in return.
I remember seeing life in Iran change overnight, to that of a slave community, the people remember it as well and want it back.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:32:49 PMAs a pragmatist, I hate all war, but the realist in me knows evil when I see it, and the Iranian leadership is pure evil and must be destroyed.
Now ask yourself, would you rather have Trump in office during this time, or allies of Lyndsey Graham in charge?
Trump is the only leader who can bring this to an end, even Iran knows this, because he keeps his word.

Remember when these zealots took over our embassy? Nothing happened under the weak Carter, but the moment Reagan was sworn in, Iran capitulated. Iran knows what real leadership looks like; they also know Trump is accepted as the world's leader by all Nations on the planet. This war will be over within two weeks. There will be peace...

I am no fan of Islam or Iran but they have shown great restraint given recent Israel assassinations and attacks in the region. .  Israel wants to be the only substantial military power remaining in the region. This requires US help in creating chaos in the region.

Quote from: Solar on Today at 02:46:50 PMAgree. I once read that the US and Israel have thousands of spies embedded in every aspect of the Iranian government.
It's no surprise to see Iran hit with such precision, only to see such a weak response in return.
I remember seeing life in Iran change overnight, to that of a slave community, the people remember it as well and want it back.

this isn't meant as a joke, but I bet China has hundreds of spies in the democrat party. There will probably be more democrats sorry to see Wi go than Chinese.

Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 03:05:04 PMI am no fan of Islam or Iran but they have shown great restraint given recent Israel assassinations and attacks in the region. .  Israel wants to be the only substantial military power remaining in the region. This requires US help in creating chaos in the region.

I think Saudi Arabia might take issue with that claim.

Truth is, Europe was the first to make a mess with the whole of the M/E, followed by the US and our CIA.
I see us as the enemy in the M/E, how we've been pitting enemies against one another to keep a constant imbalance in the region.
For decades, the Military Industrial Complex has had an endless supply of customers, and when one dried up, the CIA was there to support the highest bidder to keep the game going.

The way I see it, over the last 40+ years, we have been the instigators of war in the M/E and Trump is about to bring an end to all of it.

Quote from: Possum on Today at 03:08:51 PMthis isn't meant as a joke, but I bet China has hundreds of spies in the democrat party. There will probably be more democrats sorry to see Wi go than Chinese.

Not to derail the thread, but I was just watching Luna eviscerate the DNC and their ties to the CCP. Fuckin Elegant!

Quote from: Solar on Today at 03:16:57 PM
Not to derail the thread, but I was just watching Luna eviscerate the DNC and their ties to the CCP. Fuckin Elegant!

Excellent video. Democrats never had a chance.

Quote from: Possum on Today at 03:27:01 PMExcellent video. Democrats never had a chance.

       
The whole world saw it!

              


Dana Bash
@DanaBashCNN
I just spoke with
@realDonaldTrump
 on the phone. The President told me the US supports Israel and called the strikes on Iran last night "a very successful attack."

"We of course support Israel, obviously and supported it like nobody has ever supported it," Trump said during our brief phone call.

"Iran should have listened to me when I said - you know I gave them, I don't know if you know but I gave them a 60-day warning and today is day 61," he added.

"They should now come to the table to make a deal before it's too late. It will be too late for them. You know the people I was dealing with are dead, the hardliners," the president said. He would not specify which people he was referring to.

Asked if this was a result of Israel's attack last night, President Trump responded sarcastically: "They didn't die of the flu; they didn't die of Covid."

Quote from: patentlymn on Today at 03:05:04 PMI am no fan of Islam or Iran but they have shown great restraint given recent Israel assassinations and attacks in the region. . Israel wants to be the only substantial military power remaining in the region. This requires US help in creating chaos in the region.

You do realize what everyone in the region already knows, that Iran funds most of the terrorism, most of the attacks on Israel, and teaches everyone in Israel, must die? The only reason Iran shows restraint is because they can not face Israel, as you will soon see, in a war. They have never stopped training terrorist.  Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, Oman, Morocco, Bahrain, and Sudan are backing Israel, not Iran!!