Started by ldub23, November 26, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on April 01, 2021, 10:48:53 AMThe defeat of the allies was mostly the fault of Gen Gavin and his British superior, Browning.
Quote from: winterset on April 02, 2021, 08:39:25 AMIt was an idiotic plan and blame Montgomery for dreaming it up.They EXPECTED to take EVERY BRIDGE INTACT THE VERY FIRST DAY. Tell me that was not stupid.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 26, 2020, 12:55:27 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTUC79o4Kmc
Quote from: winterset on April 04, 2021, 10:48:58 PMThis particular modern version of the circus side side show carny gets a lot of fools to buy off on his crap.Market Garden did not work because it was an idiotic plan that assumed the Germans would just lay down and surrender.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 05, 2021, 12:08:59 AMAnother grandiose English plan, complete with TEA breaks in the afternoon!You'd think... the Brits would have used the intelligence from Blenchy (sp) Park, before they cooked up such an elaborate scheme.History is being RE-WRITTEN, we all know it, and anything allowed to pass through Google - is suspect.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 05, 2021, 02:38:48 AMMy Conservative Co-worker has a College Degree in World History - he works for us, because he doesn't want to sell crap on Youtube & has a family to support.His wife is a flaming Liberal College Professor, who votes Liberal all-the-time... so I get to hear BOTH sides.. and make up my own mind. So, I raise call your bet & raise you one Liberal College Professor! I read an article in Archeology Today, but a very famous grave digger, very well known name. He was trying to completely re-write a part of Israel's history, with his assertions. A decade later, he was proven *dead wrong* by a simple coin. New facts - oh, he sure had them.Awhile back, while working in TN, a co-worker walked in with a Jimmy Carter biography, singing his praises... one of the smartest Presidents, so compassionate, so globally & environmentally minded. Just couldn't figure out why or how Ronald Reagan beat him. He wasn't alive during the Carter Presidency, I was, so was my other co-worker - but, no matter what we said, Carter started the DOE & DEA, price controls, double-digit inflation, oil crisis, hostages in Iran, double-digit mortgage interest rates, forced 55mph speed limits, boycott of 1980 Olympics, 3-mile island, Stagflation, gave away the Panama Canal, let Russia into Afghanistan, escalated the cold war, etc., etc., Carter was an absolute control freak! This co-worker was completely disconnected from the reality of the situation, and "we" weren't gonna convince him that Jimmy Carter was an anti-Semite, far from a "saint". Reagan was "bad"... I guess... but he was still in Diapers during the Reagan era, and I was a already married, working my second job.The guy in the video, bless-his-heart, wasn't alive during WW2, probably not even the Korean war, and possibly in diapers for the Vietnam war.Anyone who has taken a casual look at the *changes* in warfare from WW1 - WW2 - Korea -Vietnam and today's engagements, sees *huge* differences in how the conflicts are/were fought. The tendency is to "visualize" war as a continuing monolithic event in our minds, the reason for fighting, how they fought, the mindset of the people, the mindset of the public, the propaganda of the time - we automatically apply our historical template as "a factual timeline of events"- when it's clearly not.Now we have *another dynamic* - more dangerous to truthfulness than before, Youtube / Google, whom we already *know* is filtering and suppressing what is allowed to be posted as *factual*. The truth gets diluted over time, by authors who over-emphasize their pet peeves, and de-emphasize those "messy, embarrassing failings" of their favorite sons. Decades later, the 2 "historical streams", both partially true, but biased, gets re-written - "Tanking into account ALL historical records, and NEW findings..." as the definitive, complete work, pledged to historical accuracy!!! BS They're using corrupt source material. And, they're making movies, using the same bad history, far from the original, most accurate accounts, each arm-chair historian, adds their own slant, emphasis or de-emphasis, and by golly, even Stalin starts looking like a humanitarian! Am I saying this guy is full of BS? Nope, I am saying be careful, history is being altered, IMO, his videos are what I consider ENTERTAINMENT, like everything else Youtube allows on.... don't we already know that??? Or, are you going to stand by, and vigorously defend every detail of this guy who is long on speculation?If you want to see a prime example of historical propaganda, DL and watch the move "Northstar". It's about the glorious Socialism in Ukraine during WW2. Really easy to find .. youtube is owned by Google, and anything promoting Socialist-Communist-Markist seems to pop right up like turds in a cesspool.
Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2021, 03:55:57 AMBINGO!!! "Tell a lie often enough"?This is where age and wisdom proves out and BS on youtube is anything but truth.I would literally ban youtube, but there still some entertainment value in disproving all of their bull shit.
Quote from: ldub23 on April 05, 2021, 12:52:17 AMFor one thing this guy is excellent, and a conservative historian. I strongly suggest you watch his video on why hitler didnt trust his generals. It contains valuable economic info. All history is subject to interpretation and this guy does an excellent job and when new info comes out he makes an updated video as he has done twice since this one came out. I will bump up the other video