I've been following this phenomena for the last year, thinking the CCP would crack down, but it's bigger than the party.
The corruption is unbelievable, from military corruption to payoffs within the party.
Just recently thousands of missiles were fueled, problem is, the fuel was replaced with water, the actual fuel was sold to those in dire need of heating and cooking fuel.
I could go on with pages of reports such as this, thousands of incidents where the workers are taking from the CCP to help the people.
Right now, many have not been paid back wages some as long as a year, infrastructure in crumbling and there's nothing that can stop it outside of civil war, or commie crackdown.
Here's just one video out of thousands exposing the anger of the people.
Wild ass guess, the CCP would have already collapsed had Trump not been cheated out of office. Biden did more for them than his own country, and even that was not enough.
Quote from: Possum on February 06, 2024, 06:13:42 AMWild ass guess, the CCP would have already collapsed had Trump not been cheated out of office. Biden did more for them than his own country, and even that was not enough.
I hadn't thought about it, but I bet you're right. :thumbup:
In my view, the CCP has such a stranglehold on China that it will not collapse. Their economy is so much stronger than Russia's was at the time of the demise of the Soviet Union. That being said, I do believe China could experience a slow but sure demise as the economy slows and they continue to spend on the military. The West, with the USA leading, could speed up the demise if western countries would restrain their dependence on Chinese products and services. The USA could lead this by going full bore on domestic energy production.
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 06, 2024, 10:46:03 AMIn my view, the CCP has such a stranglehold on China that it will not collapse. Their economy is so much stronger than Russia's was at the time of the demise of the Soviet Union. That being said, I do believe China could experience a slow but sure demise as the economy slows and they continue to spend on the military. The West, with the USA leading, could speed up the demise if western countries would restrain their dependence on Chinese products and services. The USA could lead this by going full bore on domestic energy production.
I believe the real threat is from the people. With no pay, no housing, people tend to have little to live for, so they are more apt to revolt.
I don't think the CCP will simply implode, it will be forces beyond their control who will bring them down.
Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2024, 04:30:01 PMI believe the real threat is from the people. With no pay, no housing, people tend to have little to live for, so they are more apt to revolt.
I don't think the CCP will simply implode, it will be forces beyond their control who will bring them down.
I agree the people are key. However, it will be ugly as the CCP will not go quietly.
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 07, 2024, 04:46:35 AMI agree the people are key. However, it will be ugly as the CCP will not go quietly.
Agree.
Tiananmen square is proof of the horror these commies are willing to inflict upon their own people to retain power.
But that was pre-internet when the party pulled troops from the far East who knew nothing of the cause of the uprising.
Now China has the worlds collective eyes watching it.
There's a slight possibility of the party ceding parts of the country in order to consolidate power.
If the CCP try and take Taiwan, that will be the beginning of their demise.
Taiwan has their guns locked on the three Gorges Dam and the people know it, so if the CCP sacrifices millions in an effort to expand the power base, they will be booted from power and punished over it.
This why Taiwan has not been touched, the CCP uses it as a one time use weapon against the West, but brandishing it costs nothing.
Anyone want to put a date to CCP's Collapse?
Something has to give and I doubt the people will win, so expect to see a return to full communism.
Sure, there are other possibilities, but you can never vote your way out of communism.
Chinese call it Tofu Dregg Construction. Cheap shoddy work, kickbacks and bribes are a part of doing business in China.
The only way a revolt could be successful is if the folks rise up and by a remote chance the military joins them.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 04, 2024, 04:57:28 AMThe only way a revolt could be successful is if the folks rise up and by a remote chance the military joins them.
Agree.
Problem is, like the Tiananmen uprising, they brought troops in from the East, totally cut off from communication to stop what they were told was a violent insurgency that needed to be put down.
Hopefully the next one will be a bit better planned.
Rumors Of martial Law, To Xi purposefully Destroying The Communist Party? :biggrin:
I think it's simple incompetence....
https://rumble.com/embed/v4fnjru/?pub=4
Things aren't peachy keen.
can China Recover, Or Will The CCP Crack Down?
Believe me, they are worse off than we are, and they don't have a Trump card, so to speak. :biggrin:
Their economy is now in freefall!!!
CCP Belt and road Collapse
Quote from: Solar on April 14, 2024, 06:17:35 AMCCP Belt and road Collapse
So, did our liberal run hell holes learn how to manage growth by coping the CCP, or did the CCP copy how liberal city hell holes are managed? :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Possum on April 14, 2024, 06:47:43 AMSo, did our liberal run hell holes learn how to manage growth by coping the CCP, or did the CCP copy how liberal city hell holes are managed? :lol: :lol:
Corruption knows no bounds. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Interesting short vid on global infrastructure.
My take on this is, a massive rebound for the US in global trade/heavy on US export, bringing back US manufacturing.
Only Trump could pull this off through promised peace. Assuming we have a workforce willing to work.
Your thoughts? It's worth a double watch.
Here's something that has me perplexed.
I always assumed the WEF and the CCP, along with the UN were in bed together.
But history being clear hindsight, did the WEF throw the CCP under the bus? Is that why the CCP wants to be buddy buddy with Russia bow that the US was the organizer behind the scheme?
The reason I ask is, the Wuhan lab was the epicenter (or was it) of the Covid lie, yet China overreacted and killed their economy.
That really doesn't sound like they really were a big player in the hoax, rather a victim just like the rest of the world.
Sure, the CCP was going to get a bio weapon out of the deal, but the WEF had other plans, and leaked the bug on the world with the lie that it would kill billions unless you all got the Jabb they created a decade earlier.
I'm not letting the CCP commies off the hook, but looking at their economy in full on collapse, it seems pretty clear they were left out of the loop on purpose.
Yes, China's economy is in full implosion mode and it will take decades to repair it.
Your thoughts?
Ignore the post above, I was unable to edit it. I'll delete it later.Here's something that has me perplexed.
I always assumed the WEF and the CCP, along with the UN were in bed together.
But history being clear hindsight, did the WEF throw the CCP under the bus? Is that why the CCP wants to be buddy buddy with Russia, now that the US was the organizer behind the scheme?
The reason I ask is, the Wuhan lab was the epicenter (or was it) of the Covid lie, yet China overreacted and killed their economy. Seriously, we know that Ukraine was working on Covid at the same time, yet we're to believe this spread across the globe in record short time?
That in truth, doesn't sound like they really were a big player in the hoax, rather a victim just like the rest of the world.
Sure, the CCP was going to get a bio weapon out of the deal, but the WEF had other plans, and leaked the bug on the world with the lie that it would kill billions unless you all got the Jabb they created a decade earlier.
I say bug, because how can Ivermectin kill a cold virus labeled under Covid, yet can't kill the common cold?
Ivermectin only works on actual parasites. So what did they release on the world?
I'm not letting the CCP commies off the hook by any means, but looking at their economy in full on collapse, it seems pretty clear they were left out of the loop on purpose. The WEF needed to collapse global trade in order to advance their plans for global dominance.
Yes, China's economy is in full on implosion mode and it will take decades to repair it.
Your thoughts?
Quote from: Solar on April 24, 2024, 11:33:43 AMIgnore the post above, I was unable to edit it. I'll delete it later.
Here's something that has me perplexed.
I always assumed the WEF and the CCP, along with the UN were in bed together.
But history being clear hindsight, did the WEF throw the CCP under the bus? Is that why the CCP wants to be buddy buddy with Russia, now that the US was the organizer behind the scheme?
The reason I ask is, the Wuhan lab was the epicenter (or was it) of the Covid lie, yet China overreacted and killed their economy. Seriously, we know that Ukraine was working on Covid at the same time, yet we're to believe this spread across the globe in record short time?
That in truth, doesn't sound like they really were a big player in the hoax, rather a victim just like the rest of the world.
Sure, the CCP was going to get a bio weapon out of the deal, but the WEF had other plans, and leaked the bug on the world with the lie that it would kill billions unless you all got the Jabb they created a decade earlier.
I say bug, because how can Ivermectin kill a cold virus labeled under Covid, yet can't kill the common cold?
Ivermectin only works on actual parasites. So what did they release on the world?
I'm not letting the CCP commies off the hook by any means, but looking at their economy in full on collapse, it seems pretty clear they were left out of the loop on purpose. The WEF needed to collapse global trade in order to advance their plans for global dominance.
Yes, China's economy is in full on implosion mode and it will take decades to repair it.
Your thoughts?
I don't think China would have gone along with the covid hoax had their economy been in good shape. I still lean toward the theory if their economy was going to go down, drag down everyone. With all the fears going on, I don't think the U.S. realized just how bad China's economy was. I don't think they expected other economies to rebound to the degree they did. Hell, even with Biden, our situation is not near as bad as theirs. As to why are they buddy buddy with Russia, I think that is their fear of Trump showing. Maybe his tariffs hurt them more than they admit????
Quote from: Possum on April 24, 2024, 02:12:46 PMI don't think China would have gone along with the covid hoax had their economy been in good shape. I still lean toward the theory if their economy was going to go down, drag down everyone. With all the fears going on, I don't think the U.S. realized just how bad China's economy was. I don't think they expected other economies to rebound to the degree they did. Hell, even with Biden, our situation is not near as bad as theirs. As to why are they buddy buddy with Russia, I think that is their fear of Trump showing. Maybe his tariffs hurt them more than they admit????
I didn't think China's economy was in all that bad of shape before the hoax, was it?
Granted, it wasn't as good as it was under Obozo, but they were still close to 80% employment if memory serves me.
Quote from: Solar on April 24, 2024, 04:14:09 PMI didn't think China's economy was in all that bad of shape before the hoax, was it?
Granted, it wasn't as good as it was under Obozo, but they were still close to 80% employment if memory serves me.
Just guessing. If China's economy had been roaring along, I think they would have rather sacrificed people then business. Don't know. My guess is the virus exposed just how much was being covered up. They could have been left in the dark about how bad the virus really is, shut down not knowing while we had people in the know suggesting the shut down who knew it was a hoax.
Crap, that was your point wasn't it? :lol: You have brought up questions I don't think anyone has been asking yet, and they sure should have. IMHO, it makes what Trump accomplished that much greater, he had our economy almost brought back before leaving office. Biden had to work at destroying it.
Don't know exactly what it means, but, unemployment in China is a little over 5%, except for young adults, it is over 20% for them. That seems pretty high considering how long the one child rule has been in effect.
Quote from: Possum on April 24, 2024, 05:55:18 PMJust guessing. If China's economy had been roaring along, I think they would have rather sacrificed people then business. Don't know. My guess is the virus exposed just how much was being covered up. They could have been left in the dark about how bad the virus really is, shut down not knowing while we had people in the know suggesting the shut down who knew it was a hoax.
Crap, that was your point wasn't it? :lol: You have brought up questions I don't think anyone has been asking yet, and they sure should have. IMHO, it makes what Trump accomplished that much greater, he had our economy almost brought back before leaving office. Biden had to work at destroying it.
Don't know exactly what it means, but, unemployment in China is a little over 5%, except for young adults, it is over 20% for them. That seems pretty high considering how long the one child rule has been in effect.
Sorry for not posting, but it was a SHTF week, then my hard drive started acting up.
Anyway, I've had time to research, do a deeper dive, and it appears that the CCP only had a toe in the water (like everyone else) where the big global dominance was concerned.
The WEF kept everyone in the dark, with the exception of the UN, the worlds biggest hidden enemy, playing every country against one another.
It gets even worse, but the players we have always warned about, the Banksters, they are the real players in all of this.
Think of the FED as a main player and of course the Rothchild's (rottenchilds) and those who own global media, the standard we've all known as hiding in the shadows, they have finally exposed their plan of global dominance.
I just wish the last three generations would wake up and pay attention, but instead they are myopically focusing on the distractions laid out by the left. Israel, white supremacy, BLM, Christians, Masculinity and on and on.
FWIW, I think the CCP is a sacrificial lamb in the big scheme of things, they too are being played by the most powerful group on earth, the money changers, and their think tanks have plotted their chaos for centuries, honing the blades with which to decapitate the planet and install a new head.
They never planned on a Trump rising up, they thought Obozo/Hillary were enough to bring about the "Big Change".
That a bunch of senseless wars would keep us off balance, but two things have been a real impediment in particular, our Second Amendment and their inability to force a digital ID on us.
We are so close to civil war, it is palatable, but I still think we're winning.
I bet they regret ever getting involved in the first place.
Let this be a lesson to the CCP, don't trust leftists regardless.
Now China is lying about their imploding economy, and no one is buying it. Video below.
In fact, China just held their first world trade summit/sales of Chinese, and Europe and US buyers didn't show up at all.
Russia did as well as some from Africa, but as the spokes girl admitted, they only spend 10% of what Europe and the US spend.
But that's not in this video, I'll post it if I spot it.
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2024, 11:00:02 AMI bet they regret ever getting involved in the first place.
Let this be a lesson to the CCP, don't trust leftists regardless.
Now China is lying about their imploding economy, and no one is buying it. Video below.
In fact, China just held their first world trade summit/sales of Chinese, and Europe and US buyers didn't show up at all.
Russia did as well as some from Africa, but as the spokes girl admitted, they only spend 10% of what Europe and the US spend.
But that's not in this video, I'll post it if I spot it.
I wonder how this will affect their decision on whether or not to invade Taiwan? War is costly.
Quote from: Possum on April 27, 2024, 11:18:26 AMI wonder how this will affect their decision on whether or not to invade Taiwan? War is costly.
I heard another tactic they may choose, a border invasion like we're seeing here.
Where the CCP floods Taiwan with Chinese refugees, to sway the vote to their side.
This actually seems plausible in the long run, considering Taiwan is already precariously split, it wouldn't take much to sway the vote.
It's something like 49% to 51%, that's not much of a margin to over come with vote fraud and immigrants.
Need the war to distract the people.
Quote from: Rick on April 27, 2024, 11:34:48 AMNeed the war to distract the people.
We've got 5 going as it is. Would one more even make a difference at this point?
The Marxists want Russia involved so badly, they're putting NATO in a lose, lose situation.
Hell, they already exhausted France and Germany's munitions supply. Gee, I wonder who is getting rich off all the arms sales?
I was watching a Jordan video, and pretty much all the M/E militaries are armed with US equipment.
It's almost as if the
Military Industrial Complex is starting wars to sell equipment. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2024, 11:24:01 AMI heard another tactic they may choose, a border invasion like we're seeing here.
Where the CCP floods Taiwan with Chinese refugees, to sway the vote to their side.
This actually seems plausible in the long run, considering Taiwan is already precariously split, it wouldn't take much to sway the vote.
It's something like 49% to 51%, that's not much of a margin to over come with vote fraud and immigrants.
Actually it seems very plausible right now. Just ship the unemployed over and solve two problems.
Quote from: Possum on April 27, 2024, 03:02:18 PMActually it seems very plausible right now. Just ship the unemployed over and solve two problems.
Unfortunately it is feasible, so Taiwan better get busy on its voter laws and restrictions.
I did a bit of checking, Taiwan is 11 times smaller than Calif. and has 23 million people.
Sound like a lot, but Asians are used to crowded, they like their packed cities.
I'll never understand it.