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General Category => War Forum => Topic started by: quiller on December 24, 2013, 07:26:14 AM

Title: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: quiller on December 24, 2013, 07:26:14 AM
What would the U.S. say if a Japanese Navy ship sailed into Pearl Harbor...named the Pearl Harbor? Aside from, "Where do you want that next underwater reef?"

Foreign Policy Magazine has this story of Canada having replaced two supply vessels, naming them after War of 1812 defeats of Americans.

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Warships from the U.S. Navy will someday be sailing alongside the Royal Canadian Navy supply ships HMCS Queenston and HMCS Chateauguay, perhaps on a NATO exercise or a humanitarian relief mission. That might get awkward if a historically minded American sailor notices that Queenston and Chateauguay are battles where Canada defeated America in the War of 1812. Yo, Canada, what's the deal?

Yes, America's good-natured neighbor to the north is naming its newest naval vessels after battles where Canadians trounced U.S. invaders in the War of 1812. The Battle of Queenston Heights, on Oct. 13, 1812, saw an outnumbered force of 1,300 British regulars, Canadian militiamen, and Mohawk irregulars repel a poorly organized attempt by 3,500 U.S. regulars and militiamen to cross the Niagara River. The Battle of Chateauguay, on Oct. 26, 1813*, was another embarrassing U.S. defeat, when a 1,600-strong British and Canadian force defeated 2,600 Americans who were attempting to capture Montreal.

"The Government of Canada has named the new Joint Support Ships (JSS) to commemorate the War of 1812, in recognition of the achievements and sacrifices made by those early Canadians who fought and died in these significant battles of Queenston Heights and Chateauguay," said Canadian Navy spokeswoman Lt. Jennifer Fidler in an email to Foreign Policy. "The War of 1812 was a defining moment that contributed to shaping our identity as Canadians and ultimately our existence as a country. It laid the foundation for Confederation and the cornerstones of our political institutions."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/12/23/northern_fights_canada_navy#sthash.A92I2JMY.dpbs (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/12/23/northern_fights_canada_navy#sthash.A92I2JMY.dpbs)

Considering the deplorable state of U.S. education, this whole thing edges really close to being a Canadian in-joke. But the NERVE of those people!  :wink:
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: Mountainshield on December 24, 2013, 07:36:14 AM
Well at least Andrew jackson got the last laugh, let the canadians have their little moment, dont be mean  :laugh:

Time to listen to this song

Empire Total War: Johnny Cash The Battle of New Orleans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CvlhvcwD5s#)
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: quiller on December 24, 2013, 07:57:54 AM
Johnny Horton did it far better, and earlier.

The Battle of New Orleans (Johnny Horton) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90uEEGHGSnU#)
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: bubba on December 29, 2013, 10:40:41 AM
I wasn't aware that Canada mustered a Navy.
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: GuyMontag on January 11, 2014, 03:21:43 PM
meh who cares, it's just America Jr.
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: kit saginaw on January 12, 2014, 05:35:37 AM
I don't have a problem with 'em.  It's not like the clashes just happened last week. 

The Mohawks should be angry that the Navy scuttled the USS Mohawk off Key West not too many months ago, for a reef-diving 'memorial'.
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: quiller on January 12, 2014, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: bubba on December 29, 2013, 10:40:41 AM
I wasn't aware that Canada mustered a Navy.

"Ready, Aye, Ready...."

http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/index.page (http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/index.page)



Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: mdgiles on January 23, 2014, 07:19:22 AM
Didn't we have carriers name Yorktown, Lexington and Saratoga in WW2? Weren't the British our allies?
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: lindcamp on February 08, 2014, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 12, 2014, 05:35:37 AM
I don't have a problem with 'em.  It's not like the clashes just happened last week. 

The Mohawks should be angry that the Navy scuttled the USS Mohawk off Key West not too many months ago, for a reef-diving 'memorial'.

I agree that it shouldn't be a big deal. It's just national pride, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: Cryptic Bert on February 08, 2014, 09:24:34 PM
If we want to get our side back we just have to name a ship the "USS Bieber"...

We won't here from the Canucks for decades...
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: quiller on February 09, 2014, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 08, 2014, 09:24:34 PM
If we want to get our side back we just have to name a ship the "USS Bieber"...

We won't here from the Canucks for decades...
And our Navy recruiters will suffer. Running away to join the Navy is one thing, but to serve on a ship where you have to wear gas masks just to pilot the vessel is entirely another. We used the call the Forrestal the "U.S.S. Zippo," so in this case I can just imagine the ship's nicknames.

U.S.S. 4:20 probably will win out....
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2014, 10:02:16 AM
Talk about thin skin. Who the hell is going to get offended by freakin Cananda trash talking something that happened 200 years ago. Really?
Title: Re: Canada names warships after U.S. defeats in 1812
Post by: Gaunt on February 18, 2014, 02:01:00 AM
he US has ships named after victories over Italy, Germany, Japan, Mexico, Itself (civil war) the UK, Vietnam, Korea, and probably others.