I've never seen it before and thought some might be interested in it.
Education For Death - Disney WWII Propaganda Cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8bCuNiJ-NI#)
Very interesting. In the rabbit scenario, our Nation has evolved into a citizenry of rabbits, the left has embraced the weak, the immoral, degenerates and PC is the law of the land, while strength and honesty is seen as weak.
WTF happened?
We won. :mellow: *We grew complacent in our power.*
Interesting you focus on the classroom scene too. I find that one to be one of the more telling pieces. It foreshadows the liberalism to come. Perhaps these liberal values gained momentum from works like this, or perhaps the very idea of *modern* individuality and liberalism came directly from the atrocities of the Third Reich and the Gulag of Russia. . .
When I commented in another thread about questioning my ideas and the place of individualism versus collective thinking, this is what I mean. Over individuality results in liberalism (homosexuals are simply over-extended individualists. Question their capacity to think and do for themselves (ironically they believe they have no choice in the matter of being gay :rolleyes: :cursing:) and watch the slander and hate roll off their tongue). Some collectivism is almost required if we are to curb this atrocity.
So where does the collectivisms become dangerous? When does individuality become so extreme it backtracks into communism or socialism? Are the Liberals really individuals to begins with, or are they lied to and brainwashed?
Make no mistake; the silence I think is not that the question was silly, stupid, or obvious. Rather I think it is quite deep, and much philosophical thought must be put into it.
Looking back in time, Disney was family hour where these things were discussed and interpreted by an entire generation that battled communism.
Today people don't understand or even see the threat it still possesses and continue to give the Govt more and more power over our lives, and these idiots use PC as if it were some kind of law.
I really enjoy these 1940's anti national socialism and the 1950's anti communist cartoons. Many people dislike/hate Disney because he was hard on his employees for demaning perfection and allegations of racism. Frankly I don't care if he was racist because his products isnt racist, and demanding perfection from employees in an art industry should be the normal policy. Today art is just shit.
I really like this one, not disney but good old school cartoon.
Make Mine Freedom (1948 Cartoon Foretells the Future) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Fg7GE9U-w#ws)
The leftists are masters of misinformation.
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/why-walt-disney-is-a-jew-hating-hitler-loving-racist-37185.html (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/why-walt-disney-is-a-jew-hating-hitler-loving-racist-37185.html)
I think the cartoon featured in the OP is GREAT!!! It's an example of Disney at its best, and an excellent period piece. Of course, like all propaganda -- and it is 100% propaganda -- it is essentially false and based on fear rather than fact.
In their short existence, the Nazis did one thing -- exactly one thing -- that scared the living shit out of just about everybody. They aggressively, almost frantically, built a military machine designed to conquer the continent on which it was based. And once they had done that, they did what no government we've had for nearly seventy years has done -- they pulled the trigger. Hitler's military literally conquered or otherwise eliminated every enemy he had in Europe by early 1941, just eight years after he came to power.
But four years later, thanks to some miserably awful decisions, Hitler was dead and Germany was in ruins. Just four years! The "thousand-year reich" lasted a bit over 12 years.
While the cartoon depicts a relentless indoctrination of Germans into the "Nazi way," this in fact did not happen on a large scale. The time factor alone is enough to prove that it couldn't have happened anything like the cartoon suggests. When Germany went to war in September 1939, the Nazis had been in power for just 6 1/2 years. There's a physical limit to the number of generations you can indoctrinate in 6 1/2 years -- none.
The Hitler Youth, for example, dates back to 1922, but until the Nazis assumed power in 1933, it was never a meaningful factor in the raising of German children. On the eve of Hitler's ascent to the chancellorship, the HY had just over 100,000 members (up from a mere 25,000 just three years prior), not one of whom could possibly have been exposed to Nazi ideology for more than a maximum of 11 years.
The Nazis had a lot of ambitious ideas about indoctrinating the German people, but they actually accomplished very little in that regard.
Quote from: pisskop on March 01, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
I've never seen it before and thought some might be interested in it.
Education For Death - Disney WWII Propaganda Cartoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8bCuNiJ-NI#)
Good find. May I suggest this one as a suitable companion piece? It's how paying taxes is a very good thing. (Death by other means.)
Donald Duck - (Banned) The Spirit Of '43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdM9Xitof8#ws)
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 20, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
I think the cartoon featured in the OP is GREAT!!! It's an example of Disney at its best, and an excellent period piece. Of course, like all propaganda -- and it is 100% propaganda -- it is essentially false and based on fear rather than fact.
In their short existence, the Nazis did one thing -- exactly one thing -- that scared the living shit out of just about everybody. They aggressively, almost frantically, built a military machine designed to conquer the continent on which it was based. And once they had done that, they did what no government we've had for nearly seventy years has done -- they pulled the trigger. Hitler's military literally conquered or otherwise eliminated every enemy he had in Europe by early 1941, just eight years after he came to power.
But four years later, thanks to some miserably awful decisions, Hitler was dead and Germany was in ruins. Just four years! The "thousand-year reich" lasted a bit over 12 years.
While the cartoon depicts a relentless indoctrination of Germans into the "Nazi way," this in fact did not happen on a large scale. The time factor alone is enough to prove that it couldn't have happened anything like the cartoon suggests. When Germany went to war in September 1939, the Nazis had been in power for just 6 1/2 years. There's a physical limit to the number of generations you can indoctrinate in 6 1/2 years -- none.
The Hitler Youth, for example, dates back to 1922, but until the Nazis assumed power in 1933, it was never a meaningful factor in the raising of German children. On the eve of Hitler's ascent to the chancellorship, the HY had just over 100,000 members (up from a mere 25,000 just three years prior), not one of whom could possibly have been exposed to Nazi ideology for more than a maximum of 11 years.
The Nazis had a lot of ambitious ideas about indoctrinating the German people, but they actually accomplished very little in that regard.
Not sure if you are a revisionist or just want to point a simple fact about indoctrination.
The National Socialist wanted to transform every sphere of public life into marxist environmentalism. The military machine Hitler built was just a means to an end, if you actually read Himmlers plan then they wanted to dismantle the weapon industry after the war and indoctrinate every german into NSDAP. This cartoon is a perfect description of the kind of state the NSDAP wanted to build, the Hitler Yotuh was to be the framework for the entire german education system. The nazis plan was similar to Pol Pot, because they were environmentalist they sought to destroy all forms of urban life and force people out of the cities and into the new lebensraum where the serfs would be true german agrarians again and begin race purification through collective breeding programs. The SS even had "baby factories" too speed up race purification.
So the nazis did more than just build a warmachine and start a new conflict, they built concentration camps for ethnicly undeseriables, sterilization campaigns, built an all powerfull secret service within the SS called the Gestapo which was based on the USSR NKVD, taught children to rat on their parents if they had anti national socialist views, transformed capitalism into socialist corporatism, terror regimes in occupied countries.
In conclusion the argument that Gøhring made during the trials that they were just trying to do what other empires had done does not hold up. And even though this cartoon is not representative of all german children under NSDAP regime, it is certainly true of the ones that did go through hitler Youth and is true a prediction of NSDAP goal for society.
My great grandfather was tortured by the nazis and norway had hunger problems for a decade after the occupation and the nazis also gave us the one party socialist state for over 60 years. NSDAP was socialist scum same as the bolsheviks, Germany has many things to answer for. Though I don't blame modern day germans who are not nazis.
Quote from: Mountainshield on March 27, 2013, 05:27:51 AM
Not sure if you are a revisionist or just want to point a simple fact about indoctrination.
The National Socialist wanted to transform every sphere of public life into marxist environmentalism. The military machine Hitler built was just a means to an end, if you actually read Himmlers plan then they wanted to dismantle the weapon industry after the war and indoctrinate every german into NSDAP. This cartoon is a perfect description of the kind of state the NSDAP wanted to build, the Hitler Yotuh was to be the framework for the entire german education system. The nazis plan was similar to Pol Pot, because they were environmentalist they sought to destroy all forms of urban life and force people out of the cities and into the new lebensraum where the serfs would be true german agrarians again and begin race purification through collective breeding programs. The SS even had "baby factories" too speed up race purification.
So the nazis did more than just build a warmachine and start a new conflict, they built concentration camps for ethnicly undeseriables, sterilization campaigns, built an all powerfull secret service within the SS called the Gestapo which was based on the USSR NKVD, taught children to rat on their parents if they had anti national socialist views, transformed capitalism into socialist corporatism, terror regimes in occupied countries.
In conclusion the argument that Gøhring made during the trials that they were just trying to do what other empires had done does not hold up. And even though this cartoon is not representative of all german children under NSDAP regime, it is certainly true of the ones that did go through hitler Youth and is true a prediction of NSDAP goal for society.
Revisionist? I don't think you read my post very carefully.
My point was that the cartoon was and is propaganda and demonstrably false. I agree for the most part with your assessment of Nazi intentions, but that doesn't change the fact that the Nazi party held power in Germany for just twelve years. No matter what their intentions, their accomplishments were far more limited than many would claim, simply because they were actually in power for a very short time. Talk about raising generations of Nordic supermen is just that -- talk. It didn't happen, and couldn't possibly in twelve years.
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 29, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
Revisionist? I don't think you read my post very carefully.
My point was that the cartoon was and is propaganda and demonstrably false. I agree for the most part with your assessment of Nazi intentions, but that doesn't change the fact that the Nazi party held power in Germany for just twelve years. No matter what their intentions, their accomplishments were far more limited than many would claim, simply because they were actually in power for a very short time. Talk about raising generations of Nordic supermen is just that -- talk. It didn't happen, and couldn't possibly in twelve years.
I agree, and sorry for falsely interpreting your argument.
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 29, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
Revisionist? I don't think you read my post very carefully.
My point was that the cartoon was and is propaganda and demonstrably false. I agree for the most part with your assessment of Nazi intentions, but that doesn't change the fact that the Nazi party held power in Germany for just twelve years. No matter what their intentions, their accomplishments were far more limited than many would claim, simply because they were actually in power for a very short time. Talk about raising generations of Nordic supermen is just that -- talk. It didn't happen, and couldn't possibly in twelve years.
I have to disagree as well T, 12 years of one party rule can have a devastating effect on any Nation, look at the US under just four years of Husein.
Quote from: Solar on March 29, 2013, 03:45:44 AM
I have to disagree as well T, 12 years of one party rule can have a devastating effect on any Nation, look at the US under just four years of Husein.
Damn good point, and you may have opened a BUCKET of worms, but perhaps not in the way you think...
My primary comment on the propaganda cartoon was that it is/was just that -- propaganda. Nightmares about legions of brainwashed Nazi
wunderkinder are just that -- nightmares. Those legions didn't in fact materialize simply because there was not time for it to happen, no matter how hard Hitler and Co. tried.
Yes, twelve years (or even less) of one-party rule can be devastating, and I agree that the Kenyan's time has done harm that will take perhaps a generation to measure. But I don't lay the blame at his doorstep completely, nor even at his party's threshold. In the United States, the kind of scary indoctrination depicted has been happening for generations now, going back at least to the 1960s, and dating back perhaps to FDR, perhaps even back to Wilson.
Technically, the US has not recently undergone one-party rule for a twelve-year stretch -- but that is true only if you consider nothing but the presidency and the legislature. Consider that 95% or more of the government apparatus in this country is neither executive, legislative, nor judicial. It is
administrative. Right from the local level all the way to the top, the elected -- those responsible to voters -- are the few, and the career administrative types, who never stand for election, are the many.
When you go to the BMV to renew your car/truck registration or your driver's license, for instance, every person you see behind the counter is a part of the government, a civil servant receiving a government paycheck and government benefits. But NO ONE you see behind the counter is an elected or appointed official. The IRS can audit your tax return every year until you die, and hound you out of your house and take every dime you ever had, and from start to finish, you will never once speak to an elected or appointed office-holder. It's the exact same story at the Social Security office, the Child Support Enforcement Agency, the local EPA office, the Fish & Wildlife outpost, the TSA gauntlet at the airport, and on and on. At every level, the government is up your ass every day you draw breath, and yet your chances of encountering somebody you actually voted for are mighty slim.
We are chest-deep in a tide of bureaucrat rule. Republicans and Democrats come and go, and sometimes really bad actors (the Kenyan, for example) hog center stage. But the bureaucrats outlast them, outlive them, and inexorably overrule them. The career bureaucrat class is the true bane of this nation.
See? Worms! :tounge: :tounge: :tounge:
This is the biggest problem in Norway as well.
After the occupational government party "Nasjonal Samling (National Coalition)" under Quisling was defeated we had the Workers Party rule for over 70 years. Only two brief periods of Conservative party in government.
Like you said
Quotethe bureaucrats outlast them, outlive them, and inexorably overrule them.
The Socialist know this.
Before the state structure in Norway was based on "embetsmannstaten" this state structure was based on professional state bureucracy on which Max Weber built his theory on bureaucracy. This is where the statesmen were required to be scientific, impartial too politics, follow rules and regulation and never make decision based on personal preference.
In the 1950's the Socialist Workers Party met resistance too radical policy changes from these bureaucrats so they changed the state structure from "embetsmannstaten" (statesman system) too "redskapsbyråkratiet" (State tool Bureaucracy) and in this new system is designed to implement new regulations, instead of enforce old traditional regulations. The Worker Party in power fired all the workers from the traditional government who was mainly highly educated lawyers, and changed them with low educated party members. "Redskapsbyråkratiet" or state tool bureaucracy is based on the individuals in the employment of the state instead of proffessional knowledge or education of the individual. For example before it was lawyers who decides cases, now it is party members of socialist worker party, socialist left who base their decision on their personal political preference. This is too make new left regulation enforced quicker and without real rule of law. So they filled the entire state with their own party members, just like the nazis did in 1933.
I think this is what has happened in the US as well, but instead of gov directly placing socialist in state structure, socialist has been infiltrating the state for over 50 years now.
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 29, 2013, 08:40:20 PM
Damn good point, and you may have opened a BUCKET of worms, but perhaps not in the way you think...
My primary comment on the propaganda cartoon was that it is/was just that -- propaganda. Nightmares about legions of brainwashed Nazi wunderkinder are just that -- nightmares. Those legions didn't in fact materialize simply because there was not time for it to happen, no matter how hard Hitler and Co. tried.
Yes, twelve years (or even less) of one-party rule can be devastating, and I agree that the Kenyan's time has done harm that will take perhaps a generation to measure. But I don't lay the blame at his doorstep completely, nor even at his party's threshold. In the United States, the kind of scary indoctrination depicted has been happening for generations now, going back at least to the 1960s, and dating back perhaps to FDR, perhaps even back to Wilson.
Technically, the US has not recently undergone one-party rule for a twelve-year stretch -- but that is true only if you consider nothing but the presidency and the legislature. Consider that 95% or more of the government apparatus in this country is neither executive, legislative, nor judicial. It is administrative. Right from the local level all the way to the top, the elected -- those responsible to voters -- are the few, and the career administrative types, who never stand for election, are the many.
When you go to the BMV to renew your car/truck registration or your driver's license, for instance, every person you see behind the counter is a part of the government, a civil servant receiving a government paycheck and government benefits. But NO ONE you see behind the counter is an elected or appointed official. The IRS can audit your tax return every year until you die, and hound you out of your house and take every dime you ever had, and from start to finish, you will never once speak to an elected or appointed office-holder. It's the exact same story at the Social Security office, the Child Support Enforcement Agency, the local EPA office, the Fish & Wildlife outpost, the TSA gauntlet at the airport, and on and on. At every level, the government is up your ass every day you draw breath, and yet your chances of encountering somebody you actually voted for are mighty slim.
We are chest-deep in a tide of bureaucrat rule. Republicans and Democrats come and go, and sometimes really bad actors (the Kenyan, for example) hog center stage. But the bureaucrats outlast them, outlive them, and inexorably overrule them. The career bureaucrat class is the true bane of this nation.
See? Worms! :tounge: :tounge: :tounge:
:rolleyes: No T, the cartoon is real, there is no propaganda whatsoever. :rolleyes:
Nothing like stating the obvious, there ma friend....
Like I said, it only takes one generation to destroy a country, and 12 years is a good start, and in our case after 8, they're more than halfway towards their goal, and that's not propaganda, that's blatantly obvious to the casual observer.
Quote from: Mountainshield on March 30, 2013, 03:51:04 AM
This is the biggest problem in Norway as well.
After the occupational government party "Nasjonal Samling (National Coalition)" under Quisling was defeated we had the Workers Party rule for over 70 years. Only two brief periods of Conservative party in government.
Like you said
The Socialist know this.
Before the state structure in Norway was based on "embetsmannstaten" this state structure was based on professional state bureucracy on which Max Weber built his theory on bureaucracy. This is where the statesmen were required to be scientific, impartial too politics, follow rules and regulation and never make decision based on personal preference.
In the 1950's the Socialist Workers Party met resistance too radical policy changes from these bureaucrats so they changed the state structure from "embetsmannstaten" (statesman system) too "redskapsbyråkratiet" (State tool Bureaucracy) and in this new system is designed to implement new regulations, instead of enforce old traditional regulations. The Worker Party in power fired all the workers from the traditional government who was mainly highly educated lawyers, and changed them with low educated party members. "Redskapsbyråkratiet" or state tool bureaucracy is based on the individuals in the employment of the state instead of proffessional knowledge or education of the individual. For example before it was lawyers who decides cases, now it is party members of socialist worker party, socialist left who base their decision on their personal political preference. This is too make new left regulation enforced quicker and without real rule of law. So they filled the entire state with their own party members, just like the nazis did in 1933.
I think this is what has happened in the US as well, but instead of gov directly placing socialist in state structure, socialist has been infiltrating the state for over 50 years now.
Good stuff, MS! But if I were to judge, socialism has been "infiltrating" the US for well over a hundred years, and most especially since Woodrow Wilson, who considered himself an "administrator" above all else, sat in the White House.
The US Constitution was designed above all to protect the states and the people from the assumption of power by a single person or a tight group, such as a legislature. It recognized three -- only three -- legitimate branches of government of a free people: legislative, executive, and judicial. The founders artfully interwove the three established branches in such a way that each could have limited, defined control over the effects of the other two on its mission.
What the founders almost missed -- they talked about it a little, but not nearly enough -- was the rise of Wilsonian administrative or bureaucratic government. It is not coincidence that Wilson presided over two things that made that sort of government possible and actually inevitable -- the formation of the Federal Reserve, and most especially the institution of the federal income tax, which so defied the intentions of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that it required a constitutional amendment to be legal. The Fed laid the groundwork for the establishment of unbacked paper money to become the standard of trade, a gateway for the national government to literally tax the people silently, simply by turning on the printing presses. Within twenty years, the presses were humming right along. The second, the federal income tax, a capitation tax, flew in the face of everything the founders believed in, and has since funded every and any bizarre misuse of public funds you might imagine. The two combined have made possible the bureaucratic or administrative state in this country.
The largest employer today in the United States -- the recognized leader of the free world, the world-champion powerhouse of capitalism, the seedbed of General Electric and General Motors and Ford and Archer Daniels Midland and Walmart and Hewlett-Packard and Microsoft and Intel -- is the US federal government. The US Postal Service alone, an entity that is supposed to be some sort of "government corporation" that pays its own way, employs 546,000 career (full-time) workers, and thousands more temporary and part-timers, while it loses (and soaks taxpayers for) billions of dollars every year. The Postal Service has lost money for decades, and every reasonable projection concludes that it will not likely turn a profit, or even pay its own bills, in the foreseeable future, if ever.
If you want to see examples of administrative/bureaucratic government gone completely wild -- as it does from time to time -- check out some of the more interesting cities near LA. Bell is a good one! Even better, I think, is Vernon, a "city" with 112 residents as of the 2010 census that generates roughly $250 million in revenues per year, which those folks have struggled mightily to distribute among themselves, to the tune of more that $1.6 million annually in one case. The elder mayor of Vernon retired in 2005, after more than 50 years in the position, on a paltry $506,000 yearly pension. While he was in office, his annual take often exceeded $800,000. They didn't do elections much.
Quote from: Solar on March 30, 2013, 07:01:34 AM
:rolleyes: No T, the cartoon is real, there is no propaganda whatsoever. :rolleyes:
Nothing like stating the obvious, there ma friend....
Like I said, it only takes one generation to destroy a country, and 12 years is a good start, and in our case after 8, they're more than halfway towards their goal, and that's not propaganda, that's blatantly obvious to the casual observer.
Seventy years ago when it was made, the cartoon was propaganda -- bullshit writ large, big lies told loudly and in a way to encourage cheerleaders. In this country at that time the seeds planted by TR and Wilson had not yet borne fruit, though they were being tended vigorously by FDR and his pals. It would be another twenty years -- those miserable LBJ years -- before the real damage became apparent.
Think about this succession.... FDR, HST, DDE, JFK, LBJ. That's 36 consecutive years (1933-1969) of big-government executive branch policy, most of it watched over by a Democrat in the White House. Yeah, Ike was a Republican -- and so is John McCain and so was Bob Dole. And even after LBJ was hounded out of office, we got Dick Nixon and the USEPA, with Watergate thrown in to destroy the party and the public's take on conservatives in general.
Ike was no politician and was in fact wooed by both parties to run for the highest office in the land. His landmark achievement while in office -- the Interstate Highway system -- was a breathtaking end-around play to bypass the Constitution. Since separate states could -- and did -- negotiate with one another to assure that highways didn't just end abruptly at a border, Congress couldn't find a way to sneak the interstates in under the blanket of regulating interstate commerce. But Ike helped them see that they could justify it by claiming that it served the defense of the nation, partly by modifying plans and standards for the roadways to accommodate the road-borne tank and missile carriers of the day. (Contrary to what you'll hear in truck stops, THAT is where the original overpass height regulations came from.)
Consider too that over that same period of time, 1933-1969, Democrats held both houses of Congress for all but four years. Pubs held the reins for a brief two years during the latter half of Truman's pre-election term, and for a similar short time in the first half of Ike's first term. In other words, for 36 years the Democrats called the shots -- and I'm talking FDR Dems.
Finally, consider that Democrat dominance of Congress was not only near complete for those 36 years, but held for twelve MORE years after LBJ departed, all the way through Nixon/Ford and Carter. For nearly half a century, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, and Pubs held the White House for only 16 of the 36 years -- with weak (RINO) examples, every single one -- Ike, Nixon, Ford.
By the time Reagan was elected (finally!) and a Republican-dominated Congress seated in 1981, the damage had already been done, the seeds had already bloomed and taken firm root, and the rise of administrative/bureaucratic government-at-large was assured.
Quote from: TboneAgain on March 31, 2013, 04:01:36 PM
Seventy years ago when it was made, the cartoon was propaganda -- bullshit writ large, big lies told loudly and in a way to encourage cheerleaders. In this country at that time the seeds planted by TR and Wilson had not yet borne fruit, though they were being tended vigorously by FDR and his pals. It would be another twenty years -- those miserable LBJ years -- before the real damage became apparent.
Think about this succession.... FDR, HST, DDE, JFK, LBJ. That's 36 consecutive years (1933-1969) of big-government executive branch policy, most of it watched over by a Democrat in the White House. Yeah, Ike was a Republican -- and so is John McCain and so was Bob Dole. And even after LBJ was hounded out of office, we got Dick Nixon and the USEPA, with Watergate thrown in to destroy the party and the public's take on conservatives in general.
Ike was no politician and was in fact wooed by both parties to run for the highest office in the land. His landmark achievement while in office -- the Interstate Highway system -- was a breathtaking end-around play to bypass the Constitution. Since separate states could -- and did -- negotiate with one another to assure that highways didn't just end abruptly at a border, Congress couldn't find a way to sneak the interstates in under the blanket of regulating interstate commerce. But Ike helped them see that they could justify it by claiming that it served the defense of the nation, partly by modifying plans and standards for the roadways to accommodate the road-borne tank and missile carriers of the day. (Contrary to what you'll hear in truck stops, THAT is where the original overpass height regulations came from.)
Consider too that over that same period of time, 1933-1969, Democrats held both houses of Congress for all but four years. Pubs held the reins for a brief two years during the latter half of Truman's pre-election term, and for a similar short time in the first half of Ike's first term. In other words, for 36 years the Democrats called the shots -- and I'm talking FDR Dems.
Finally, consider that Democrat dominance of Congress was not only near complete for those 36 years, but held for twelve MORE years after LBJ departed, all the way through Nixon/Ford and Carter. For nearly half a century, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, and Pubs held the White House for only 16 of the 36 years -- with weak (RINO) examples, every single one -- Ike, Nixon, Ford.
By the time Reagan was elected (finally!) and a Republican-dominated Congress seated in 1981, the damage had already been done, the seeds had already bloomed and taken firm root, and the rise of administrative/bureaucratic government-at-large was assured.
There is no doubt the past 100 years have gotten us to the point that the people are virtually removed from the equation and led to a Husein Marxist gaining power through corruption, but in his first term, he has moved us further than the last 100 years in total to becoming a socialist Nation, and it's the generation of brainwashed idiots that put him there along with corruption.
Granted, it was accomplished by the building blocks put in place by his predecessors, but it's at the speed at which the left were able to move that made it possible.
We can only hope that the generation that put him in power will recognize the mistake they've made and reverse the direction were in, if not, I guarantee, the great American dream is over.
Quote from: Solar on March 31, 2013, 04:41:59 PM
There is no doubt the past 100 years have gotten us to the point that the people are virtually removed from the equation and led to a Husein Marxist gaining power through corruption, but in his first term, he has moved us further than the last 100 years in total to becoming a socialist Nation, and it's the generation of brainwashed idiots that put him there along with corruption.
Granted, it was accomplished by the building blocks put in place by his predecessors, but it's at the speed at which the left were able to move that made it possible.
We can only hope that the generation that put him in power will recognize the mistake they've made and reverse the direction were in, if not, I guarantee, the great American dream is over.
We're singin' the same tune, bro. I'm not sure that the Kenyan has been quite as effective as you allege in his first four years... but how effective do you have to be to touch the teetering bus and send it over the cliff?
Remember that scene late in "True Lies" where the terrorists manage to bring the van to a stop in front of the hole blown in the bridge, front wheels hanging over the abyss, the van rocking in the breeze. And the two terrorists look at one another and smile and start laughing, thinking they had cheated certain death.... and then along comes a (seagull? pelican? some kind of bird...) that lands on the front of the van.... and over it goes.
Barack Livingston Seagull.
:tounge: