My name is Washington, not really, but you get the reasoning. I'm from the state that any Presidential candidate needs to win to be President, which is the 50/50 state of Ohio. I hate it here and want to move to Texas, but that's not important now. About me,
I'm 28 and I'm arrogant in the sense that I'm a political, financial, and Business genius. How I know this is I took over a failing sales corporation that was 600,000 in debt and made it a multi-million dollar franchise company that's now top 10 in the world all by the age of 22. I was the head office executive in that corporation while a sophmore in high school and managed to get my school work done and get A's and B's even though I didn't get done with work till 11pm. I believe in a hard work ethic and lazy people I don't give the time of day. Another reason why I don't respect people that have the mindset to stay on government assistance. I'm a hard A$$ and say it like it is. That's just the Business owner/CEO in me it's part of who I am. Last year I got promoted to Divisional supervisor where I oversee hundreds of franchises across the country. I also make speeches in my field on how to be successful business owner by the president of the company. I turned 28 years old last August. I'm in that top 1%, and don't give a damn what the liberals think of that.
I have big time guts and will debate anybody on these 3 things. We all have a common goal, which is to get Obama out, and take over congress by this November. I can tell you without any doubt that both will be accomplished around May of next year. Knowing this I'm at peace and have a unique way off looking at what is really going on politically. I said years ago that Obama's approval even among libs would plummet, and some will start to turn on him and boy was I right.
Looking forward to talking with you all. God bless.
Any questions feel free to ask.
So why do you dislike Ohio? :popcorn:
Quote from: quiller on September 12, 2014, 01:59:57 AM
So why do you dislike Ohio? :popcorn:
Compared to Texas economically it's like night and day. Did you know that Texas has I believe 3 city's Austin, Dallas and another one that are in Forbes top 5 best economic cities? Austin in 1 or 2 on the list. You live down there and they say what recession? They say you want a job I'll hire you but you have to move to Texas.
I'll give John Kasich credit he is turning around the state but he is limited by the state being split 50/50 politically. Some complaints i have is he has decreased the income taxes, but has increased sales taxes and property taxes to make up for it. Our sales tax is 7.5%! Plus the Mayer of Columbus, OH is a liberal that will literally never retire.
Also, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the Buckeyes. I'd rather hear about Illegal Aliens..
Also even though it's illegal to use in wars now I'd resurrect the napalm bomb and toss a few thousand of them on these terrorists and send them to hell quite literally. I'd love to get that on video. It will have 100 million views on youtube and would scare the crap out of these new terrorist recruits. That's how you handle terrorists.
Quote from: washington on September 12, 2014, 02:20:02 AM
Compared to Texas economically it's like night and day. Did you know that Texas has I believe 3 city's Austin, Dallas and another one that are in Forbes top 5 best economic cities? Austin in 1 or 2 on the list. You live down there and they say what recession? They say you want a job I'll hire you but you have to move to Texas.
I'll give John Kasich credit he is turning around the state but he is limited by the state being split 50/50 politically. Some complaints i have is he has decreased the income taxes, but has increased sales taxes and property taxes to make up for it. Our sales tax is 7.5%! Plus the Mayer of Columbus, OH is a liberal that will literally never retire.
Also, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the Buckeyes. I'd rather hear about Illegal Aliens..
I believe this (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/07/23/naples-austin-head-list-of-best-cities-for-job-growth/) is the Forbes article you're referring to. It places Austin (#2), McAllen (#3), and Dallas (#5) as top-five cities for job growth. The same article goes on to place Houston at #9 and San Antonio at #10, meaning that five of the top ten cities for job growth are in Texas, at least according to Forbes. For the record, you would probably hate Austin even more than you do Columbus -- it is a (rare for Texas) true-blue liberal Democrat enclave, for much the same reason Columbus leans that way -- it's the seat of state government.
Ohio carries legacies that tend to largely account for the roughly 50% liberal/Democrat tilt. A powerful union presence has been fundamental to the makeup of cities like Toledo (Chrysler), Dayton (General Motors, NCR), Youngstown (steel), Akron (tires), and Cleveland (steel, Ford). Transportation patterns and proximity to Kentucky (a "border" slave state before the Civil War) have produced high concentrations of blacks in cities like Cincinnati, Dayton, Cleveland, and Youngstown. All of these cities are at or near majority-black status, all of them are in decline with large areas of inner-city blight, and all of them have been run solely by Democrats for at least a generation. Also, Ohio is home to a number of nationally-recognized hotbeds of liberal/progressive academic thought, including Ohio University (Athens), Kent State University, and Oberlin College.
As for the Buckeyes, I should think you'd be used to it by now, especially if you live in or near Columbus. But if you do move to Texas, you'll just be trading the Bucks for the 'Horns. And you'll have to learn to do this, at a moment's notice, no matter where you are....
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Kudos to TBone for an excellent objective review of Ohio and its pernicious Democratic Party. Toledo is a town best known for Jeep, the only U.S. vehicle even the UAW cannot screw up. Chrysler is now owned by Fiat.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/11/fiat-jeep-sales-idUSI6N0QH02420140911 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/11/fiat-jeep-sales-idUSI6N0QH02420140911)
Here's the poll released last Wednesday by Rassmussen....
Kasich is ahead by a comfortable margin against the Demodunce opponent, whatshisname....
QuoteTroubled Democratic gubernatorial candidate Ed FitzGerald has now fallen 20 points behind incumbent Republican John Kasich in Ohio's gubernatorial contest.
Ohio is rated Safe Republican on the Rasmussen Reports 2014 Gubernatorial Scorecard. Kasich was first elected governor in 2010 by a narrow 49% to 47% margin. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.
The survey of 780 Likely Voters in Ohio was conducted on September 8-9, 2014 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2014/ohio/election_2014_ohio_governor (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2014/ohio/election_2014_ohio_governor)
Links to methodology are within the post.
Thanks guys!
Could use your support in the politics thread. Solar doesn't like me very much..
Quote from: TboneAgain on September 12, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
I believe this (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/07/23/naples-austin-head-list-of-best-cities-for-job-growth/) is the Forbes article you're referring to. It places Austin (#2), McAllen (#3), and Dallas (#5) as top-five cities for job growth. The same article goes on to place Houston at #9 and San Antonio at #10, meaning that five of the top ten cities for job growth are in Texas, at least according to Forbes. For the record, you would probably hate Austin even more than you do Columbus -- it is a (rare for Texas) true-blue liberal Democrat enclave, for much the same reason Columbus leans that way -- it's the seat of state government.
Ohio carries legacies that tend to largely account for the roughly 50% liberal/Democrat tilt. A powerful union presence has been fundamental to the makeup of cities like Toledo (Chrysler), Dayton (General Motors, NCR), Youngstown (steel), Akron (tires), and Cleveland (steel, Ford). Transportation patterns and proximity to Kentucky (a "border" slave state before the Civil War) have produced high concentrations of blacks in cities like Cincinnati, Dayton, Cleveland, and Youngstown. All of these cities are at or near majority-black status, all of them are in decline with large areas of inner-city blight, and all of them have been run solely by Democrats for at least a generation. Also, Ohio is home to a number of nationally-recognized hotbeds of liberal/progressive academic thought, including Ohio University (Athens), Kent State University, and Oberlin College.
As for the Buckeyes, I should think you'd be used to it by now, especially if you live in or near Columbus. But if you do move to Texas, you'll just be trading the Bucks for the 'Horns. And you'll have to learn to do this, at a moment's notice, no matter where you are....
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Thank you! Exactly correct. Could use you in the political forum.
Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 09:08:11 AM
Thanks guys!
Could use your support in the politics thread. Solar doesn't like me very much..
Solar has an issue with arrogant kids that think they have all the answers.
You'd be better served by listening to the members rather than trying to cram your warped version of history on the forum.
Keep in mind, most of what you claim to understand as history, most of us remember it as if were yesterday.
Yes, we have a contextual understanding of yesteryear in relation to current day issues.
Quote from: Solar on September 13, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
Solar has an issue with arrogant kids that think they have all the answers.
You'd be better served by listening to the members rather than trying to cram your warped version of history on the forum.
Keep in mind, most of what you claim to understand as history, most of us remember it as if were yesterday.
Yes, we have a contextual understanding of yesteryear in relation to current day issues.
I never said I had all the answers, but i do have a lot. Listening goes both ways and so does arrogance.
Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 11:55:21 AM
I never said I had all the answers, but i do have a lot. Listening goes both ways and so does arrogance.
Do you think this forum popped out of nowhere?
Quote from: Solar on September 13, 2014, 11:59:20 AM
Do you think this forum popped out of nowhere?
No. Could use some updating, though.
Quote from: Solar on September 13, 2014, 12:19:16 PM
For instance?
Technological and new information and more knowledge.
Quote from: washington on September 13, 2014, 12:35:03 PM
Technological and new information and more knowledge.
What part of
forum, do you not understand?
The forum is packed full of information, you merely need to seek it out.
Wow, Intro to Temp-Ban in under 36 hours! Is that a record here for non-spammers?
Quote from: SVPete on September 13, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Wow, Intro to Temp-Ban in under 36 hours! Is that a record here for non-spammers?
:lol:
Nah, but he's in the top 10. Now lets see if he can, at least act like an adult when he comes back tomorrow.
The narcissism is strong with this one.
Here's a hint, kid: The more you know, the more you realize you don't know. True knowledge and wisdom doesn't require someone to brag about accomplishments to random strangers. Listen, show respect, be willing to learn from others (or at least hear them out), and you'll be fine. Acting like a douche because you ran a company once is a good way to get on a lot of ignore lists.
Quote from: Solar on September 13, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
Solar has an issue with arrogant kids that think they have all the answers.
Some of us outgrew it. Others became Democrats.
QuoteYou'd be better served by listening to the members rather than trying to cram your warped version of history on the forum.
Keep in mind, most of what you claim to understand as history, most of us remember it as if were yesterday.
Yes, we have a contextual understanding of yesteryear in relation to current day issues.
I notice you've got a new BANNED emoticon, but a comment above says this is for temporary bans (presumably also for those trolls who get permanently-banned). Later, you do say it's temporary.
May I suggest you use that emoticon solely for permanent-bans? It becomes confusing when someone suddenly returns and everyone goes into a "I-thought-he-was-banned" thing until YOU have to explain he was but now he isn't. (After that it devolves into a Marx Brothers routine.)
...On the other hand, talking about the new emoticon is more significant than wasting time replying to someone who simply isn't there, physically or otherwise.....
Quote from: quiller on September 14, 2014, 02:44:18 AM
Some of us outgrew it. Others became Democrats.
I notice you've got a new BANNED emoticon, but a comment above says this is for temporary bans (presumably also for those trolls who get permanently-banned). Later, you do say it's temporary.
May I suggest you use that emoticon solely for permanent-bans? It becomes confusing when someone suddenly returns and everyone goes into a "I-thought-he-was-banned" thing until YOU have to explain he was but now he isn't. (After that it devolves into a Marx Brothers routine.)
...On the other hand, talking about the new emoticon is more significant than wasting time replying to someone who simply isn't there, physically or otherwise.....
Unfortunately that's the only icon available, unless Taxed knows of a work around, that's all there is.
Quote from: quiller on September 14, 2014, 07:22:56 AM
It's 15 by 15 pixels. I'll wander down to the Weasel Works™ and see what I come up with....
TEST
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This came out 29 x 29 at 72px (the Internet standard) in a .GIF format like the other emoticons, only large enough to read the text....I hope.
I think I can fit the text into a dunce cap but then I'd REALLY blow the image-area sizing..... :biggrin:
You might very well be well versed in politics, business, and so forth, and you might be above average in raw intelligence, but arrogance is surely not a virtue, and it's not something to be openly boastful about. Instead it's something you should aim to diminish.
What is arrogance? Arrogance is overbearing display of pride in oneself and self importance; arrogance is vanity, and vanity is hollow and lacking in substance. It's all show. An arrogant individual is less likely to admit ignorance, and therefore more likely to remain in a state of ignorance. Like another poster said:
QuoteThe more you know, the more you realize you don't know.
And the more you realize you don't know, the more you try to educate yourself in response to not knowing, and the circle just keeps going round and round.
I guess another way of putting it is "If you stare in the mirror all day, you won't see the world around you."
Quote from: JTA on September 14, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
You might very well be well versed in politics, business, and so forth, and you might be above average in raw intelligence, but arrogance is surely not a virtue, and it's not something to be openly boastful about. Instead it's something you should aim to diminish.
What is arrogance? Arrogance is overbearing display of pride in oneself and self importance; arrogance is vanity, and vanity is hollow and lacking in substance. It's all show. An arrogant individual is less likely to admit ignorance, and therefore more likely to remain in a state of ignorance. Like another poster said:
And the more you realize you don't know, the more you try to educate yourself in response to not knowing, and the circle just keeps going round and round.
I guess another way of putting it is "If you stare in the mirror all day, you won't see the world around you."
I was thinking he was going to replace God next week. :wink:
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 13, 2014, 05:13:41 PM
The narcissism is strong with this one.
Here's a hint, kid: The more you know, the more you realize you don't know. True knowledge and wisdom doesn't require someone to brag about accomplishments to random strangers. Listen, show respect, be willing to learn from others (or at least hear them out), and you'll be fine. Acting like a douche because you ran a company once is a good way to get on a lot of ignore lists.
Normally that's ture, but so far nobody here has posted something so far that I didm't already know or know to be false.
Solar, I'll ingnor you if you ignore me. You are the only one on this board I don't get along with and like. Thank you.
Quote from: JTA on September 14, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
You might very well be well versed in politics, business, and so forth, and you might be above average in raw intelligence, but arrogance is surely not a virtue, and it's not something to be openly boastful about. Instead it's something you should aim to diminish.
What is arrogance? Arrogance is overbearing display of pride in oneself and self importance; arrogance is vanity, and vanity is hollow and lacking in substance. It's all show. An arrogant individual is less likely to admit ignorance, and therefore more likely to remain in a state of ignorance. Like another poster said:
And the more you realize you don't know, the more you try to educate yourself in response to not knowing, and the circle just keeps going round and round.
I guess another way of putting it is "If you stare in the mirror all day, you won't see the world around you."
I do look in the mirror and all there is is me. Anyways, I do recognize smart comments, but i have yet to see one yet. Only been here a short time, so please surprise me guys.
Quote from: washington on September 14, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Solar, I'll ingnor you if you ignore me. You are the only one on this board I don't get along with and like. Thank you.
Doesn't work that way son. Now, you still have that question to answer, so get to it.
Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Doesn't work that way son. Now, you still have that question to answer, so get to it.
Then I'll ignored you. I answered your irrelevant question. The more you push it the more irrlevant it will become. Fair warning.
Quote from: washington on September 14, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Normally that's ture, but so far nobody here has posted something so far that I didm't already know or know to be false.
Yawn.
Incidentally, neither solar nor the members of this forum owe you anything. If you're so much more brilliant than the members here (lol), why not dazzle us with your knowledge rather than acting like a spoiled child? Help us, great one. We are clearly lost without you :rolleyes:
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 14, 2014, 05:33:21 PM
Incidentally, neither solar nor the members of this forum owe you anything. If you're so much more brilliant than the members here (lol), why not dazzle us with your knowledge rather than acting like a spoiled child? Help us, great one. We are clearly lost without you :rolleyes:
Yes I will.
Follow me and I will show you the way. :cool:
Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Doesn't work that way son. Now, you still have that question to answer, so get to it.
Let me put it this way. This kid is full of shit all the way to the top of his head, and then some. He must be a Baskin and Robbins college graduate also.
Quote from: washington on September 14, 2014, 05:12:43 PM
Then I'll ignored you. I answered your irrelevant question. The more you push it the more irrlevant it will become. Fair warning.
Answer the question. FAIR WARNING.
Quote from: washington on September 14, 2014, 05:12:43 PM
Then I'll ignored you. I answered your irrelevant question. The more you push it the more irrlevant it will become. Fair warning.
Ignore me at your own peril.
I see this loudmouthed punk didn't learn a damned thing after a one-day time-out.....
Quote from: washington on September 14, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Solar, I'll ingnor you if you ignore me. You are the only one on this board I don't get along with and like. Thank you.
Just so you know, kid --- CPF is owned by Solar.
You still want to play I'll-Ignore-You?......
Quote from: quiller on September 14, 2014, 08:46:09 PM
I see this loudmouthed punk didn't learn a damned thing after a one-day time-out.....
Just so you know, kid --- CPF is owned by Solar.
You still want to play I'll-Ignore-You?......
I know it is. I expect a link to a list of established forum rules. Or its an anarchy.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 12:33:08 AM
I know it is. I expect a link to a list of established forum rules. Or its an anarchy.
Your worthlessness is noted. And just because you didn't get your way, child, does NOT mean there is anarchy here.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 12:33:08 AM
I know it is. I expect a link to a list of established forum rules. Or its an anarchy.
The same rules apply here as in real life, like being an adult, owning up to mistakes, you know, like when an employee lies about making a mistake effecting the company, you fire them.
You see, we have quite the following, and when kids like you come in claiming to be better than...well, anyone else, then post bull shit, they get the same they would in real life.
Ask yourself, would you put up with an employee as arrogant as you are, one that claimed he knows more than the boss?
I retired in my mid 40s, a millionaire, no bills, debt free, business owner all my life, so using your logic, I'm your superior.
Think about it.
Quote from: quiller on September 15, 2014, 06:40:18 AM
Your worthlessness is noted. And just because you didn't get your way, child, does NOT mean there is anarchy here.
Quiller, when you leave the house, do you carry around a set of established rules for life? :lol:
Last time I checked, it was called being an adult, and boy, does this kid have a rough road ahead, or what?
Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 06:52:56 AM
Quiller, when you leave the house, do you carry around a set of established rules for life? :lol:
Well, now that you mention it, I generally save my most pungent remarks for his type of moron.
QuoteLast time I checked, it was called being an adult, and boy, does this kid have a rough road ahead, or what?
I predict ---- not around here.
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Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 06:46:40 AM
The same rules apply here as in real life, like being an adult, owning up to mistakes, you know, like when an employee lies about making a mistake effecting the company, you fire them.
You see, we have quite the following, and when kids like you come in claiming to be better than...well, anyone else, then post bull shit, they get the same they would in real life.
Ask yourself, would you put up with an employee as arrogant as you are, one that claimed he knows more than the boss?
I retired in my mid 40s, a millionaire, no bills, debt free, business owner all my life, so using your logic, I'm your superior.
Think about it.
I believe me being honest and upfront about my arrogance show balls that a kid won't have and me being 28 throws that hypothesis right out the window. Common sense.
My income is a million a year at age 24 and now it's over 5 million a year, and next year I expect an increase and I'm only 28. What took you to your mid-40's I could do right now at age 28. Ask yourself who is your superior. By the way you mentioning your superior than me shows you are arrogant. The difference between you and me is I can admit it and I recignize it. You were saying? Glad to see another successful poster! :smile:
FYI, all boards have rules or bi-laws so 1 person doesn't decide all like an anarchy. Some common sense.
Quote from: quiller on September 15, 2014, 06:40:18 AM
Your worthlessness is noted. And just because you didn't get your way, child, does NOT mean there is anarchy here.
Reevaluate. Helps to go over things a second and third time over time.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:28:38 AM
FYI, all boards have rules or bi-laws so 1 person doesn't decide all like an anarchy. Some common sense.
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I want to eat your rooster, fyi. Making me hungry.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:27:16 AM
I believe me being honest and upfront about my arrogance show balls that a kid won't have and me being 28 throws that hypothesis right out the window. Common sense.
My income is a million a year at age 24 and now it's over 5 million a year, and next year I expect an increase and I'm only 28. What took you to your mid-40's I could do right now at age 28. Ask yourself who is your superior. By the way you mentioning your superior than me shows you are arrogant. The difference between you and me is I can admit it and I recignize it. You were saying? Glad to see another successful poster! :smile:
Personally, I like successful people and success stories. I, too, am successful professionally. However, it's also important to me to be successful socially and spiritually. Pride and condescending arrogance are NOT virtues and will stand in your way as major roadblocks in other domains of your life. Good for you for your financial success. Now learn to treat other people with dignity and respect, learn some humility, and strive to be a successful well-rounded person and THEN people will you consider you a man. Until then, I assure you that everyone who knows you in real life sees you the same way we do: as a spoiled little twat.
QuoteI was the head office executive in that corporation while a sophmore in high school
How does one get a position like this while still a sophomore in high school? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just genuinely curious is all.
Quote from: JTA on September 15, 2014, 08:33:32 AM
How does one get a position like this while still a sophomore in high school? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just genuinely curious is all.
My father recommended me to another distributor or business franchise owner. It's a family business since the early 50's, and I was basically trained at age 5, which is when I started going into my fathers office and learning the business. I learned it from both my uncles, my father and my Grandpa. My family is the best in the business and just my name got me in the door, my interview and professonalism, and knowledge did the rest as a sophmore in high school. I far exceeded expectations and left that company to turn around my family company that my father mismanaged, when I was 18 going on 19, right after graduation. My father started when he was 15.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 15, 2014, 08:29:28 AM
Personally, I like successful people and success stories. I, too, am successful professionally. However, it's also important to me to be successful socially and spiritually. Pride and condescending arrogance are NOT virtues and will stand in your way as major roadblocks in other domains of your life. Good for you for your financial success. Now learn to treat other people with dignity and respect, learn some humility, and strive to be a successful well-rounded person and THEN people will you consider you a man. Until then, I assure you that everyone who knows you in real life sees you the same way we do: as a spoiled little twat.
Funny. See my employees love me due to me paying for their health coverage 100% and giving year end bonuses that are in the thousands and free gifts at Christmas. My father and my other uncles are now millionaires due to me, because I'm very generous with payroll. I make it my goal as a business owner to give back to my employees and to make sure they are happy, while keeping order that my employees will NEVER dare challenge.
My best friend has asburgers and has the biggest heart I've ever known and my other friend was in a car accident and has a disability also, but also has a huge heart, and those are my only 2 friends. I'm very selective. They will never ever treat me bad and are what one would consider true friends. I don't surround myself with phony's. I'm only arrogant when it comes to my work then I flip a switch and I'm my normal self at home in the real world. I made it my goal to be that way because I've seen to many people make work their personal lives. That's the biggest mistake one could make.
I announced my arrogance here so one would think twice about challenging me. I knew some would though and I respect that.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:31:23 AM
Reevaluate. Helps to go over things a second and third time over time.
I decided that after careful review of your "adult" observations. It helps to listen to the site owner before you demand ANY thing --- PARTICULARLY the first day you're back after a mandatory time-out.
Your class photo is ready, junior.
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Quote from: JTA on September 15, 2014, 08:33:32 AM
How does one get a position like this while still a sophomore in high school? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just genuinely curious is all.
There should be a prize here for Most Restrained Poster...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (Good job!)
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 08:51:38 AM
Funny. See my employees love me due to me paying for their health coverage 100% and giving year end bonuses that are in the thousands and free gifts at Christmas. My father and my other uncles are now millionaires due to me, because I'm very generous with payroll. I make it my goal as a business owner to give back to my employees and to make sure they are happy, while keeping order that my employees will NEVER dare challenge.
My best friend has asburgers and has the biggest heart I've ever known and my other friend was in a car accident and has a disability also, but also has a huge heart, and those are my only 2 friends. I'm very selective. They will never ever treat me bad and are what one would consider true friends. I don't surround myself with phony's. I'm only arrogant when it comes to my work then I flip a switch and I'm my normal self at home in the real world. I made it my goal to be that way because I've seen to many people make work their personal lives. That's the biggest mistake one could make.
I announced my arrogance here so one would think twice about challenging me. I knew some would though and I respect that.
Aspergers*
I find it interesting that you mentioned being challenged twice. It must be difficult living in fear of being challenged.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 07:27:16 AM
I believe me being honest and upfront about my arrogance show balls that a kid won't have and me being 28 throws that hypothesis right out the window. Common sense.
My income is a million a year at age 24 and now it's over 5 million a year, and next year I expect an increase and I'm only 28. What took you to your mid-40's I could do right now at age 28. Ask yourself who is your superior. By the way you mentioning your superior than me shows you are arrogant. The difference between you and me is I can admit it and I recignize it. You were saying? Glad to see another successful poster! :smile:
I retired because I had accomplished all I ever set out to do, owned several businesses, all started by me from scratch, all extremely successful. I have no doubt I've done more and accomplished more by the time I was 28 than you can hope to in a lifetime. Did you spend the first part of your life in the Military? I did, meaning I had to start late, and still succeeded.
Oh, and I didn't have a sugar daddy to cradle me, I started with $8.00 and turned it into a million.
But it's not the money that makes a man, it's what he does with his life in the interim that proves his worth.
You claim to be a Conservative, but you're young and are experiencing a completely different America than the majority on this forum, most of us grew up with Conservative values, and becoming rich was never part of that value system,
"for a mans value is only worth his word" Break your word, and you're worthless.
A motto I live by.
The reason I pointed out my success was not out of Arrogance, as was yours, rather to point out the fact that you have no idea who is on this forum, and believe me, there are others on here that put your small ambitions to shame, including accumulative wealth.
"Arrogance" Overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
And that's exactly how you came off with your first post.
I point this out, because in order to grow into being a man, one needs to temper their arrogance, let your words and actions reflect who you are, and you'll find that success is by far sweeter than you could have ever imagined.
There is more to being a Conservative than being a capitalist.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 15, 2014, 09:56:24 AM
Aspergers*
I find it interesting that you mentioned being challenged twice. It must be difficult living in fear of being challenged.
I don't live in fear of it. At work I don't tolerate it and if you challenge me I fire you. On here it's at your own risk, but if you can hold your own should be some good intelligent conversation! I look forward to it.
Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
I retired because I had accomplished all I ever set out to do, owned several businesses, all started by me from scratch, all extremely successful. I have no doubt I've done more and accomplished more by the time I was 28 than you can hope to in a lifetime. Did you spend the first part of your life in the Military? I did, meaning I had to start late, and still succeeded.
Oh, and I didn't have a sugar daddy to cradle me, I started with $8.00 and turned it into a million.
But it's not the money that makes a man, it's what he does with his life in the interim that proves his worth.
You claim to be a Conservative, but you're young and are experiencing a completely different America than the majority on this forum, most of us grew up with Conservative values, and becoming rich was never part of that value system, "for a mans value is only worth his word" Break your word, and you're worthless.
A motto I live by.
The reason I pointed out my success was not out of Arrogance, as was yours, rather to point out the fact that you have no idea who is on this forum, and believe me, there are others on here that put your small ambitions to shame, including accumulative wealth.
"Arrogance" Overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
And that's exactly how you came off with your first post.
I point this out, because in order to grow into being a man, one needs to temper their arrogance, let your words and actions reflect who you are, and you'll find that success is by far sweeter than you could have ever imagined.
There is more to being a Conservative than being a capitalist.
I didn't get hired by that distributor due to my father I just got the interview, a multi interview process that I needed to prove my worth to the company, which I exceeded as a 15 year old. Regardless of how you look at it probably a handful of people in the USA can claim that success at that young of age. Also, my actions in real life as I explained above prove my worth as a man unlike 1 post.
Also, you started out in the military then owned businesses? You had more than 8.00, you had military pay. Anyways, I'm not going to deminish your accomplishments you've earned them.
I plan to do something big with my money at my retirement in about 10-20 years. Should have $50 million - $100 million by then. I'd like to give back to the USA somehow. Plenty of time to decide on how to do that.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 03:02:30 PM
I didn't get hired by that distributor due to my father I just got the interview, a multi interview process that I needed to prove my worth to the company, which I exceeded as a 15 year old. Regardless of how you look at it probably a handful of people in the USA can claim that success at that young of age. Also, my actions in real life as I explained above prove my worth as a man unlike 1 post.
Also, you started out in the military then owned businesses? You had more than 8.00, you had military pay. Anyways, I'm not going to deminish your accomplishments you've earned them.
I plan to do something big with my money at my retirement in about 10-20 years. Should have $50 million - $100 million by then. I'd like to give back to the USA somehow. Plenty of time to decide on how to do that.
Nope, after paying bills, I had $8.00 left over, I headed to the print shop, bought stationary and business cards and started another business.
Too many people assume it takes thousands to start a business, when in truth, all it takes is hard work.
Quote from: Solar on September 15, 2014, 07:23:13 PM
Nope, after paying bills, I had $8.00 left over, I headed to the print shop, bought stationary and business cards and started another business.
Too many people assume it takes thousands to start a business, when in truth, all it takes is hard work.
It takes money to start a business, and yes thousands, because you srat out as a sole propriotor, which means you have to account for personal expenses. The office unless it's out of your home is minimum $500.00 a month and same with an apartment unless you ahve a roommate, but that would require less in home office space. There's ways to make your overhead cheap, but $1,000 is usually required.
Quote from: washington on September 12, 2014, 01:58:17 AM
My name is Washington, not really, but you get the reasoning. I'm from the state that any Presidential candidate needs to win to be President, which is the 50/50 state of Ohio. I hate it here and want to move to Texas, but that's not important now. About me,
You are already sounding like an idiot.
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I'm 28 and I'm arrogant in the sense that I'm a political, financial, and Business genius.
You are sounding more like an idiot.
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How I know this is I took over a failing sales corporation that was 600,000 in debt and made it a multi-million dollar franchise company that's now top 10 in the world all by the age of 22.
When you start talking about business, make sure you know what you're talking about, please.
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I was the head office executive in that corporation while a sophmore in high school and managed to get my school work done and get A's and B's even though I didn't get done with work till 11pm.
Oh boy, another academic.
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I believe in a hard work ethic and lazy people I don't give the time of day. Another reason why I don't respect people that have the mindset to stay on government assistance. I'm a hard A$$ and say it like it is. That's just the Business owner/CEO in me it's part of who I am. Last year I got promoted to Divisional supervisor where I oversee hundreds of franchises across the country.
You didn't own the company? Why?
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I also make speeches in my field on how to be successful business owner by the president of the company.
How would you know about being a business owner if you don't own the business?
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I turned 28 years old last August. I'm in that top 1%, and don't give a damn what the liberals think of that.
Some of us were in the top 1% by age 22. You're boring me, "genius".
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I have big time guts
Let me know when you start and sell a few multi-million dollar companies, "business genius". Until then, you just get the front parking space.
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and will debate anybody on these 3 things. We all have a common goal, which is to get Obama out, and take over congress by this November. I can tell you without any doubt that both will be accomplished around May of next year. Knowing this I'm at peace and have a unique way off looking at what is really going on politically. I said years ago that Obama's approval even among libs would plummet, and some will start to turn on him and boy was I right.
Looking forward to talking with you all. God bless.
Any questions feel free to ask.
I can't wait.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
My father recommended me to another distributor or business franchise owner. It's a family business since the early 50's, and I was basically trained at age 5, which is when I started going into my fathers office and learning the business. I learned it from both my uncles, my father and my Grandpa. My family is the best in the business and just my name got me in the door, my interview and professonalism, and knowledge did the rest as a sophmore in high school. I far exceeded expectations and left that company to turn around my family company that my father mismanaged, when I was 18 going on 19, right after graduation. My father started when he was 15.
Congratulations on being part of the lucky sperm club. Some of us started from nothing.
Quote from: washington on September 15, 2014, 08:03:27 PM
It takes money to start a business, and yes thousands, because you srat out as a sole propriotor, which means you have to account for personal expenses. The office unless it's out of your home is minimum $500.00 a month and same with an apartment unless you ahve a roommate, but that would require less in home office space. There's ways to make your overhead cheap, but $1,000 is usually required.
How would you know?
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 09:02:56 AM
You are already sounding like an idiot.
You are sounding more like an idiot.
When you start talking about business, make sure you know what you're talking about, please.
Oh boy, another academic.
You didn't own the company? Why?
How would you know about being a business owner if you don't own the business?
Some of us were in the top 1% by age 22. You're boring me, "genius".
Let me know when you start and sell a few multi-million dollar companies, "business genius". Until then, you just get the front parking space.
I can't wait.
Funny. I've owned the business from age 18 I got promoted to divisional supervisor which mean i got promoted from Owner. Meaning I over saw hundreds of other business owners. My income went from a million a year to over 5 million with plenty of room to grow. Ask how it works next time instead of assuming. Why should I sell a multi million dollar business when I can keep 70% of the profits even after I retire by only selling 30%, while doing no work? Nope.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 09:35:38 AM
How would you know?
Because I inherited a business 600,000 in debt.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:53:19 AM
Funny. I've owned the business from age 18 I got promoted to divisional supervisor which mean i got promoted from Owner. Meaning I over saw hundreds of other business owners. My income went from a million a year to over 5 million with plenty of room to grow. Ask how it works next time instead of assuming. Why should I sell a multi million dollar business when I can keep 70% of the profits even after I retire by only selling 30%, while doing no work? Nope.
Reading between the lines it sounds like he is running a pyramid scheme.
What exactly is this business you keep referring to?
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 16, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Reading between the lines it sounds like he is running a pyramid scheme.
I make money off of the people under me. Yes.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
What exactly is this business you keep referring to?
Direct sales.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:53:19 AM
Funny. I've owned the business from age 18 I got promoted to divisional supervisor which mean i got promoted from Owner.
If you owned the business, how did you get promoted from owner?
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Meaning I over saw hundreds of other business owners.
Please explain to us real business owners what in the hell you're talking about.
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My income went from a million a year to over 5 million with plenty of room to grow.
Are you telling us, or yourself?
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Ask how it works next time instead of assuming. Why should I sell a multi million dollar business when I can keep 70% of the profits even after I retire by only selling 30%, while doing no work? Nope.
How can you be promoted to owner and now keep 70% of profits? Again, explain to us who actually started business from nothing, grew them, and then sold them. Something isn't adding up with your story.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:54:20 AM
Because I inherited a business 600,000 in debt.
What do you mean "inherited"?
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 10:33:08 AM
I make money off of the people under me. Yes.
So, you really don't make any money. That's sad. You had me going for a minute.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
Explain.
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Quote from: walkstall on September 16, 2014, 10:53:44 AM
These pyramid scammers/MLM'ers are hilarious. They like to loiter at Panera Bread and wait for dumb gullible people to bilk. The irony is these guys are usually more broke than the idiots they're scamming.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
These pyramid scammers/MLM'ers are hilarious. They like to loiter at Panera Bread and wait for dumb gullible people to bilk. The irony is these guys are usually more broke than the idiots they're scamming.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on September 16, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Reading between the lines it sounds like he is running a pyramid scheme.
Yup. These guys are some of the worst people on the planet. I had a friend who was hard-core addicted to one of these scams. The brainwashing that goes into it is eerie. When I talked to the guy who had him hooked, he was giving me the same BS about how much money he made, how much potential he had, and the whole spiel. Of course, I was a real business owner, so he got boxed up pretty quick. By the end of the call, he admitted there was no actual business that you "own", and his luxury car he uses as a prop to hook the suckers wasn't even his. Yet, my friend still wanted to give him money.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 11:17:22 AM
Yup. These guys are some of the worst people on the planet. I had a friend who was hard-core addicted to one of these scams. The brainwashing that goes into it is eerie. When I talked to the guy who had him hooked, he was giving me the same BS about how much money he made, how much potential he had, and the whole spiel. Of course, I was a real business owner, so he got boxed up pretty quick. By the end of the call, he admitted there was no actual business that you "own", and his luxury car he uses as a prop to hook the suckers wasn't even his. Yet, my friend still wanted to give him money.
The whole idea is to recruit whoever you sell something to. Then the organization ends up with a whole bunch of people who could not sell sex on a troop train. Most eventually fall apart. Also, many of the recruits drop by the wayside there becomes a pointl of diminishing returns as the ones that leave begin to outnumber the ones recruited.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 16, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
The whole idea is to recruit whoever you sell something to. Then the organization ends up with a whole bunch of people who could not sell sex on a troop train. Most eventually fall apart. Also, many of the recruits drop by the wayside there becomes a pointl of diminishing returns as the ones that leave begin to outnumber the ones recruited.
It's an odd way to pretend to make a living.
So you guys are saying you AREN'T going to sign up if he tries to recruit you?!? Think of all the money you're missing out of!
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
So you guys are saying you AREN'T going to sign up if he tries to recruit you?!? Think of all the money you're missing out of!
Feel free to PM him for details. I am sure he would like to make you a Multi Millionaire by this time next year. :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
So you guys are saying you AREN'T going to sign up if he tries to recruit you?!? Think of all the money you're missing out of!
I can't wait for him to tell me about the great products I can sell! I got my check book right here next to my laptop.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
I can't wait for him to tell me about the great products I can sell! I got my check book right here next to my laptop.
Well sir today is your lucky day. The other day I received an email out of nowhere from a barrister in Abuja Nigeria who said if I send him 5,000 bucks, he will forward me the 100 billion dollars I inherited from my long lost cousin, prince John Bob of Zimbabwe. If you would kindly gift me 5,000 dollars I will happily split my inheritance with you.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
Explain.
Uhmmmm no, because it's none of your business on who I am, and I'm not going to create a way on how to find me. I gave you plenty of information.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 10:36:51 AM
If you owned the business, how did you get promoted from owner?
Please explain to us real business owners what in the hell you're talking about.
Are you telling us, or yourself?
How can you be promoted to owner and now keep 70% of profits? Again, explain to us who actually started business from nothing, grew them, and then sold them. Something isn't adding up with your story.
I got promoted from the President of the head company. You know what a franchise owner is? I can be a divisional supervisor and still own a franchise of my own and sell a stake in the company to free up time to be a DS. Not very hard to figure out. LOL! You are ridiculous. I'd rather talk to Solar than you.
Quote from: taxed on September 16, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
What do you mean "inherited"?
Really? I took over a company that had 600,000 in debt. See original post.
Quote from: walkstall on September 16, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
Feel free to PM him for details. I am sure he would like to make you a Multi Millionaire by this time next year. :rolleyes:
Working for me it will only take 5.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Working for me it will only take 5.
I am sure you will put that in writing. :rolleyes:
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Is it Kirby? I was going to guess Herbalife or Cutco.
Well, my pic could have meant that his business sucks, or that he's really cleaning up, but it didn't. Nor did it mean that he'd be tossing his cookies at jokes he's heard hundreds of times, though he might be.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 08:57:22 PM
Is it Kirby? I was going to guess Herbalife or Cutco.
No. Just posting the one that I own and love.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
No. Just posting the one that I own and love.
Herbalife? Cutco? That candle company thing?
I bought my mom a Kirby 13 years ago and she loves it to this day.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
Herbalife? Cutco? That candle company thing?
I bought my mom a Kirby 13 years ago and she loves it to this day.
My Grandpa owned the first Kirby made 100 years ago in 1914 none electric and still works! :). btw.. yes you got me - my company is a Kirby franchise and it's been in my family since the early 50's. Door to door sales for 100 year and counting. Hoover, electorlux, rainbow, now oreck all made of cheap plastic and sold and owned by china only sold in stores and aren't made to last. Hoovers used to be a very good vaccume 40 years ago. Kirby is about 10-20 years ahead of all of them in technology and actually cleaning. The sad truth is people don't realize that the Kirby is the only vaccume that actually gets rid of the sand in the carpet that works like sand paper that rips carpet nap/fiber and causes you to have to replace your carpet prematurely so the other vaccums company's conbtinue to get your business and so carpets continue to get sold. It's specifically made to. The best carpets were made decades ago and were made of whool. Now it's just to expensive. as you older folks know over time quality of products or the life span of products aren't made to last like they did back in the day. I own 2 kirbys. one that came out in the early 1980's that still works like it's brand new and the new one. However, some inside knowledge is to expect a new Kirby to come out to celebrate 100 years. Kirby's come with a lifetime rebuild where the factory will rebuild it from scratch with brand new parts for 175.00.
Facts - Kirby is owned by the Scotts fitzgerald company, which is owned by Warren Buffet, nd it was one of his first investments.
Kirby's last min 25 years and as long as 100.
The Kirby product was improved by NASA in Celveland Ohio and started in cleveland Ohio, and is 100% made in American and sold in over 86 different country's.
Great guess, fyi.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
My Grandpa owned the first Kirby made 100 years ago in 1914 none electric and still works! :). btw.. yes you got me - my company is a Kirby franchise and it's been in my family since the early 50's. Door to door sales for 100 year and counting. Hoover, electorlux, rainbow, now oreck all made of cheap plastic and sold and owned by china only sold in stores and aren't made to last. Hoovers used to be a very good vaccume 40 years ago. Kirby is about 10-20 years ahead of all of them in technology and actually cleaning. The sad truth is people don't realize that the Kirby is the only vaccume that actually gets rid of the sand in the carpet that works like sand paper that rips carpet nap/fiber and causes you to have to replace your carpet prematurely so the other vaccums company's conbtinue to get your business and so carpets continue to get sold. It's specifically made to. The best carpets were made decades ago and were made of whool. Now it's just to expensive. as you older folks know over time quality of products or the life span of products aren't made to last like they did back in the day. I own 2 kirbys. one that came out in the early 1980's that still works like it's brand new and the new one. However, some inside knowledge is to expect a new Kirby to come out to celebrate 100 years. Kirby's come with a lifetime rebuild where the factory will rebuild it from scratch with brand new parts for 175.00.
Facts - Kirby is owned by the Scotts fitzgerald company, which is owned by Warren Buffet, nd it was one of his first investments.
Kirby's last min 25 years and as long as 100.
The Kirby product was improved by NASA in Celveland Ohio and started in cleveland Ohio, and is 100% made in American and sold in over 86 different country's.
Great guess, fyi.
Nice little pitch there but it's good that you support the product you represent. What region are you? I wonder if I contributed to your success with my purchase in 2001.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 10:40:34 PM
Nice little pitch there but it's good that you support the product you represent. What region are you? I wonder if I contributed to your success with my purchase in 2001.
Midwest. Me, my father, my 2 uncles, my 2 aunts have contributed to about 40,000 kirby's sold personally in 37 years personally not as owners. If you include as Distributors/owners it's over 100,000 or 60,000 in a 10 year period. This doesn't even include my grandpas personal sales as an individual and as an owner/distributor, and his influence as a DS, which he started the business in the early 50's and did it till 2007.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Midwest. Me, my father, my 2 uncles, my 2 aunts have contributed to about 40,000 kirby's sold personally in 37 years personally not as owners. If you include as Distributors/owners it's over 100,000 or 60,000 in a 10 year period. This doesn't even include my grandpas personal sales as an individual and as an owner/distributor, and his influence as a DS, which he started the business in the early 50's and did it till 2007.
Ah. I'm in Southern California so I helped make some other guy rich. If my gjrlfriend at the time wasn't in the room during the pitch, I probably wouldn't have bought it. But Kirby has perfected the old trick of making you think you're getting a deal when you "talk them down" from a "$3,000" vacuum to $600, women always give in and she gave me the eye like I better buy the thing. Just as they do in retail, trick them into thinking they're "saving" money by spending $600 instead of $3,000. I always tell people that if you "save" money by spending it, you'll be broke in no time.
That's nothing against Kirby. Just that after 100 years of tough door to door sales has made them into expert pitch people.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 16, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
Ah. I'm in Southern California so I helped make some other guy rich. If my gjrlfriend at the time wasn't in the room during the pitch, I probably wouldn't have bought it. But Kirby has perfected the old trick of making you think you're getting a deal when you "talk them down" from a "$3,000" vacuum to $600, women always give in and she gave me the eye like I better buy the thing. Just as they do in retail, trick them into thinking they're "saving" money by spending $600 instead of $3,000. I always tell people that if you "save" money by spending it, you'll be broke in no time.
That's nothing against Kirby. Just that after 100 years of tough door to door sales has made them into expert pitch people.
Let me put it this way... The customers I sell to most will gladly pay $3,200 for a Kirby which is the price now and both be perfectly fine with it. See our company has a policy that if the person is married his or her spouse has to be with her at the time of demo. So why are they so eager to pay that price? It my knowledge of the product, my honesty of what in can and cannot do, but most importantly I connect with the customer and chat with them before I even begin. I believe everybody should own a Kirby or they are wasting their money. Kirby's literally give you an extra 5-10 years of carpet life, and if you think about all the plastic vacuums you have to buy over 25+ years which are now a couple hundred a piece to as much as 600 in the store like the Dysons, the saving add up to the price of a Kirby or beyond it. Also, it helps to not just have the number 1 vacuum in the world, but the number 1 rated shampooer in the world that you can shampoo an entire room in under 15 minuted and have it dry in 1 hour using circular dry foam cleaning method that doesn't get the padding wet.
I've had carpet installers tell me that homes whre the customer has a kirby the carpet when being removed weighs way less than a house without a Kirby, and it's because of the sand that's embeded in the carpet.
Knowing what i know I'd have no problem paying 3,200 for the Kirby cash, check or credit card. However, if I feel the customer is going through financial difficulty I will cut the price in half from the get go just so they don't worry about the price. 90% of the time when i walk out of a home I don't have the Kirby with me. I'm that good.
You can be a great salesman and be honest and not use any pressure at all, and that's how i was taught by my Grandfather. When i go around holding divisional meetings and tell hundreds of distributors what I'm telling you right now about my family's success selling Kirby's the proper way and using zero pressure tactics but rather sincere caring honesty that I get based on my knowledge of the product I shock them. the first question I ask dealers when I got office to office is who here uses pressure or decete to sell the Kirby? Nobody raises their hands because they are ashamed and most of them do and I know it, so i hold a demonstration right in front of the entire office and at the end i ask no i never pressured at all did I? They obviously say no. I then ask who here can do this demo or even 75% becuase theres a lot of knowledge to remeber in my demo? They all raise their hands. I say when you do this demo you will walk out of the house feeling good because you know you connected with a customer, you sold it high, and used zero pressure, and most imprortantly if you seel theis way you will get no more than 1 cancelation a year.
These offices that pressure can be identified based on the number of cancelations and as the DS I have access to these figures.
My hope is to one day get promoted again and transform th rest of the divisions and train these DS's and still go office to office and have these sales man sell and train there sales men when they get promoted the same way and start a chain reaction of transforming Kirby's reputation as door to door salesman.
You guys can take this thread out of the "nut house" now. I'm officially stable. I'm really starting to like a lot of you and learn somethings. I like it. :smile:
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 12:26:57 AM
You guys can take this thread out of the "nut house" now. I'm officially stable. I'm really starting to like a lot of you and learn somethings. I like it. :smile:
Stable? You're a 28 year old kid that claims political genius status, one that can't even differentiate between the paradigm of RINO fraud or Conservative.
I think what you fail to grasp, is we're TEA, not Republicans, not GOP. We're the enemy of the party. We want to steal it from the likes of a Newt, we have absolutely no interest in compromise, the only compromising to be done, will be done by our enemies, the GOP establishment.
We are old enough to remember how the country should look, how much Liberties and freedoms have been lost over the decades thanks to the establishment GOP, a perspective you'll never understand.
Had you bothered to read through our forum before joining, you'd have seen that the majority of members have a shared set of unspoken values that only true Conservatives share, and it's this shared value system that allows us to spot a political newbie a mile off, and why claiming the likes of a Newt as Conservative is nothing short of the pure ignorance of a wet nosed kid.
If you honestly still believe Newt is a Con, then you may be more at home in a Republican forum, one where they think reaching across the isle is the solution.
We'll decide when and if your meds work correctly.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Uhmmmm no, because it's none of your business on who I am, and I'm not going to create a way on how to find me. I gave you plenty of information.
Nobody cares who you are. We're interested in watching you try and explain what you've posted.
Quote from: washington on September 16, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
I got promoted from the President of the head company. You know what a franchise owner is? I can be a divisional supervisor and still own a franchise of my own and sell a stake in the company to free up time to be a DS. Not very hard to figure out. LOL! You are ridiculous. I'd rather talk to Solar than you.
You're not very good at this. You're managing a division of a franchise, with you owning the franchise? Explain.
Quote from: Solar on September 17, 2014, 05:47:33 AM
Stable? You're a 28 year old kid that claims political genius status, one that can't even differentiate between the paradigm of RINO fraud or Conservative.
I think what you fail to grasp, is we're TEA, not Republicans, not GOP. We're the enemy of the party. We want to steal it from the likes of a Newt, we have absolutely no interest in compromise, the only compromising to be done, will be done by our enemies, the GOP establishment.
We are old enough to remember how the country should look, how much Liberties and freedoms have been lost over the decades thanks to the establishment GOP, a perspective you'll never understand.
Had you bothered to read through our forum before joining, you'd have seen that the majority of members have a shared set of unspoken values that only true Conservatives share, and it's this shared value system that allows us to spot a political newbie a mile off, and why claiming the likes of a Newt as Conservative is nothing short of the pure ignorance of a wet nosed kid.
If you honestly still believe Newt is a Con, then you may be more at home in a Republican forum, one where they think reaching across the isle is the solution.
We'll decide when and if your meds work correctly.
What you guys are is conservatives that believe in the founding principles of the Republican party or GOP, which makes you apart of them, and your goal should be to move them more toward their core principles that the party was founded on, and that's best for our nation. I don't see TEA on the ballet, and I know you don't vote democrat.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 09:46:03 AM
You're not very good at this. You're managing a division of a franchise, with you owning the franchise? Explain.
There are hundreds of franchises. I own 1 and oversee hundreds, but don't own them. However I can put them out of business if they don't meet standards.
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
What you guys are is conservatives that believe in the founding principles of the Republican party or GOP, which makes you apart of them, and your goal should be to move them more toward their core principles that the party was founded on, and that's best for our nation. I don't see TEA on the ballet, and I know you don't vote democrat.
Stick with us and you will figure it out. TEA is not a party, it is a movement. We vote republican because that is where one is most likely to find people who espouse what we believe. If we ever find a democrat who espouses what we believe that person is either lying or soon to be dispatched from the party.
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
What you guys are is conservatives that believe in the founding principles of the Republican party or GOP, which makes you apart of them, and your goal should be to move them more toward their core principles that the party was founded on, and that's best for our nation. I don't see TEA on the ballet, and I know you don't vote democrat.
Why am I pulling for Grimes to beat McConnell?
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 01:03:18 PM
There are hundreds of franchises. I own 1 and oversee hundreds, but don't own them. However I can put them out of business if they don't meet standards.
Who knows what scheme you have going on, but please know your place when talking business with us other business owners. Any dumbass can buy into a franchise and follow their system, but not everyone can start a business from concept, grow it, then sell it. You are more at the level of the owner of my local Subway who works some lunch rushes, and helps make my sandwich. That's fine and there's nothing wrong with that, but don't lie to yourself about being an entrepreneurial businessman. Don't feel too special about "overseeing" franchisees. You don't own them, so you're just an employee.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 01:50:31 PM
Who knows what scheme you have going on, but please know your place when talking business with us other business owners. Any dumbass can buy into a franchise and follow their system, but not everyone can start a business from concept, grow it, then sell it. You are more at the level of the owner of my local Subway who works some lunch rushes, and helps make my sandwich. That's fine and there's nothing wrong with that, but don't lie to yourself about being an entrepreneurial businessman. Don't feel too special about "overseeing" franchisees. You don't own them, so you're just an employee.
Be careful who you talk to because that person me has done the hardest type of sales and sales is the hardest industry there is due to rejection. Door to door sales is by far the hardest job to do not to mention constantly lifting a 20 lbs machine for 3-5 hours. Subway owners I can guarentee you have it way eaiser with the books and arnt responsible for certain things that we are and don't have millions going through their accounts every year and have to purchase hundreds of thousands worth of inventory every months. Your perception and you trying so hard to diminish me is so laughible it's really funny and sad at the same time. Keep it up. I dare you. LOL..
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 03:04:56 PM
Be careful who you talk to because that person me has done the hardest type of sales and sales is the hardest industry there is due to rejection. Door to door sales is by far the hardest job to do not to mention constantly lifting a 20 lbs machine for 3-5 hours. Subway owners I can guarentee you have it way eaiser with the books and arnt responsible for certain things that we are and don't have millions going through their accounts every year and have to purchase hundreds of thousands worth of inventory every months. Your perception and you trying so hard to diminish me is so laughible it's really funny and sad at the same time. Keep it up. I dare you. LOL..
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Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 03:04:56 PM
Be careful who you talk to because that person me has done the hardest type of sales and sales is the hardest industry there is due to rejection. Door to door sales is by far the hardest job to do not to mention constantly lifting a 20 lbs machine for 3-5 hours. Subway owners I can guarentee you have it way eaiser with the books and arnt responsible for certain things that we are and don't have millions going through their accounts every year and have to purchase hundreds of thousands worth of inventory every months. Your perception and you trying so hard to diminish me is so laughible it's really funny and sad at the same time. Keep it up. I dare you. LOL..
You have the same business model as Girl Scouts and Jehovas Witnesses. I used to sell landscaping service door-to-door, but then I turned 15. It's not 1950 anymore son. Leave people alone when we're at home enjoying ourselves.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 04:25:52 PM
You have the same business model as Girl Scouts and Jehovas Witnesses. I used to sell landscaping service door-to-door, but then I turned 15. It's not 1950 anymore son. Leave people alone when we're at home enjoying ourselves.
Why? They love me and are willing to write out a $3200 check to me and my company. I'll pass on your advice. :lol:
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
Why? They love me and are willing to write out a $3200 check to me and my company. I'll pass on your advice. :lol:
I'm sure they love you. Leave those people alone and quit ripping them off.
Does your mommy drive you during your sales calls? My sister drives my niece around when my niece is selling Girl Scout cookies.
I like Samoas and those peanut butter filled ones. Thin mints, too. The shortbread and lemon ones are dumb. Why would anyone pay the same for those mediocre ones instead of the delicious ones? The world may never know.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
I'm sure they love you. Leave those people alone and quit ripping them off.
Does your mommy drive you during your sales calls? My sister drives my sister around when my niece is selling Girl Scout cookies.
I can remember back when a Kirby only cost just under 26$ to make. As a young pup I helped build a cabin for a man that had the Washington state franchise for Kirby so he said. The cabin was just outside of Mt Rainier National Park. The stories he use to tell about ripping people off sitting around the camp fire at night. To this day when I see a Kirby, I look at it and ask myself if they got it new or did someone rebuild and old Kirby and sell it as a new one.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
I'm sure they love you. Leave those people alone and quit ripping them off.
Does your mommy drive you during your sales calls? My sister drives my niece around when my niece is selling Girl Scout cookies.
They don't feel ripped off at all even after they found out someone got it for a cheaper price. Why? The product is worth every penny. Keep trying.
Quote from: walkstall on September 17, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
I can remember back when a Kirby only cost just under 26$ to make. As a young pup I helped build a cabin for a man that had the Washington state franchise for Kirby so he said. The cabin was just outside of Mt Rainier National Park. The stories he use to tell about ripping people off sitting around the camp fire at night. To this day when I see a Kirby, I look at it and ask myself if they got it new or did someone rebuild and old Kirby and sell it as a new one.
2 factory's. The one in cleveland ships to all the USA distributors and the one in Texas ships only to other countries. They are brand new. You should see the stack 10 high in my stock room. I carry 500 in my office at all times.
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Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 09:48:43 PM
2 factory's. The one in cleveland ships to all the USA distributors and the one in Texas ships only to other countries. They are brand new. You should see the stack 10 high in my stock room. I carry 500 in my office at all times.
Quote from: washington on September 17, 2014, 09:45:55 PM
They don't feel ripped off at all even after they found out someone got it for a cheaper price. Why? The product is worth every penny. Keep trying.
$3k to suck up dirt? Gee, what a steal.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 10:18:55 PM
$3k to suck up dirt? Gee, what a steal.
that pays for it's self and actually cleans very well, yes.
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 10:18:55 PM
$3k to suck up dirt? Gee, what a steal.
For 3K I could easily do without carpet, buy a Roomba, and hire a maid.
Screw vacuuming, I live in the wilderness, where dust is a part of life, and anyone that owns carpet up here is either stupid or a newbie from the city. :biggrin:
Quote from: taxed on September 17, 2014, 10:18:55 PM
$3k to suck up dirt? Gee, what a steal.
I agree they should up the price to 4k
Quote from: washington on September 18, 2014, 05:40:36 PM
I agree they should up the price to 4k
I would not give you 2¢ for one. It just proves there a sucker born every day and that's what shill likes. The only salesman I could stand in my house was a Fuller Brush Man. :popcorn:
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 06:34:06 PM
I would not give you 2¢ for one. It just proves there a sucker born every day and that's what shill likes. The only salesman I could stand in my house was a Fuller Brush Man. :popcorn:
Come on now. Two cents? You could scrap it and make money at that rate. YOU'D be the sucker not to buy it at that price.
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 06:34:06 PM
I would not give you 2¢ for one. It just proves there a sucker born every day and that's what shill likes. The only salesman I could stand in my house was a Fuller Brush Man. :popcorn:
Best damn products ever! :thumbup:
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 18, 2014, 07:32:02 PM
Come on now. Two cents? You could scrap it and make money at that rate. YOU'D be the sucker not to buy it at that price.
At my age it would be a great waste of time and energy. A sucker sir, would be the one that would even let them in the door.
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
At my age it would be a great waste of time and energy. A sucker sir, would be the one that would even let them in the door.
100+ people let us in per dealer per month.
Quote from: washington on September 18, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
100+ people let us in per dealer per month.
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Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
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I apologize were you trying to say something? Must have missed it....
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
At my age it would be a great waste of time and energy. A sucker sir, would be the one that would even let them in the door.
What if you paid two cents, bought it on the sidewalk in front of your house, left it for the neighborhood dogs to piss on, and call it "modern art" once it starts rusting? You'd become famous.
Quote from: Dr. Meh on September 18, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
What if you paid two cents, bought it on the sidewalk in front of your house, left it for the neighborhood dogs to piss on, and call it "modern art" once it starts rusting? You'd become famous.
Or the dog would become famous.