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Title: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: MAC Man on February 05, 2012, 06:18:56 PM
What an admirable guy, eh?!  :)) :)) ;D

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyySsmK/3 (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/inside_my_teen_affair_with_jfk_FGF4aS7OdoQozP4tyySsmK/3)
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 06, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
A typical Democrat. Your virgin daughter are belong to us.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Shooterman on February 06, 2012, 07:22:05 AM
Quote from: quiller on February 06, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
A typical Democrat. Your virgin daughter are belong to us.

Good to 'see' you, Quill.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: CubaLibre on February 06, 2012, 07:53:38 AM
Bubba was a lightweight by comparison.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: quiller on February 06, 2012, 07:15:56 AM
A typical Democrat. Your virgin daughter are belong to us.

Sounds like a willing participant, above age, and certainly no virgin.  Maybe she's lying.  Msybe the same people that paid those women to lie about Herman Cain paid her to do the same about Kennedy. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 06, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
Sounds like a willing participant, above age, and certainly no virgin.  Maybe she's lying.  Msybe the same people that paid those women to lie about Herman Cain paid her to do the same about Kennedy. 
I love how you libs will always come to the rescue of a lib when they screw up morally, but when they do the right thing fiscally, you ignore them.
JFK would be a PUB by todays standards, he too believed in the trickle down method and that tax cuts spurned on the economy.
But today you all believe the opposite, why is that?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
I love how you libs will always come to the rescue of a lib when they screw up morally, but when they do the right thing fiscally, you ignore them.
JFK would be a PUB by todays standards, he too believed in the trickle down method and that tax cuts spurned on the economy.
But today you all believe the opposite, why is that?

Tax cuts DO spur (I guess you meant spur, not spurn) the economy when the marginal tax rate is on the RIGHT side of the Laffer curve, which is where it was when JFK was in office. But it ain't been there since Reagan. 

And I wasn't defending him.  I was merely speculating she could be a bought and paid for llar like those women that lied about Cain. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 06, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 01:42:42 PM
Tax cuts DO spur (I guess you meant spur, not spurn) the economy when the marginal tax rate is on the RIGHT side of the Laffer curve, which is where it was when JFK was in office. But it ain't been there since Reagan. 

And I wasn't defending him.  I was merely speculating she could be a bought and paid for llar like those women that lied about Cain. 
I think the difference here is obvious, this was not public info when he was in office and now he's dead and Cain was running and still alive.
Your point is moot.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 06, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
I think the difference here is obvious, this was not public info when he was in office and now he's dead and Cain was running and still alive.
Your point is moot.

So what you're saying is, if it's an accusation against a dead guy, it must be true.  If it's an allegation against a live guy (esp a conservatard), it's clearly a lie.  Is that an accurate transation?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 06, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 04:04:25 PM
So what you're saying is, if it's an accusation against a dead guy, it must be true.  If it's an allegation against a live guy (esp a conservatard), it's clearly a lie.  Is that an accurate transation?
Nope, its all about agenda, the accusations leveled at Cain were designed to kill his chances at the WH.
I have no idea what the motives were in this story, but with Teddy in Hell, I imagine she felt a bit safer speaking out.

If its not true, I'm sure the left will do whatever it takes to discredit her.
But I wouldn't count on it, JFK was know for being a womanizer.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 07, 2012, 11:33:38 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 06, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
Sounds like a willing participant, above age, and certainly no virgin.  Maybe she's lying.  Msybe the same people that paid those women to lie about Herman Cain paid her to do the same about Kennedy. 

Elmer, you had best read the excerpt where Kennedy asked her if it was her first time and she said yes --- and Loathsome Filth shucked her shorts anyway.

The Kennedy clan of deviates, drunks, and sex maniacs. Not one damned thing new about it. John Fitzworthless was exactly as bad as this says.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: quiller on February 07, 2012, 11:33:38 AM
Elmer, you had best read the excerpt where Kennedy asked her if it was her first time and she said yes --- and Loathsome Filth shucked her shorts anyway.

The Kennedy clan of deviates, drunks, and sex maniacs. Not one damned thing new about it. John Fitzworthless was exactly as bad as this says.

Somebody had to be first.  She still sounds like a willing participant. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 07, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:04:19 PM
Somebody had to be first.  She still sounds like a willing participant. 
At 14? Are you serious? ? ?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:18:55 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 07, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
At 14? Are you serious? ? ?

19 is the age given in the article I read.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 07, 2012, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 02:18:55 PM
19 is the age given in the article I read.
You're right, I don't know where I got 14 from.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on February 07, 2012, 02:44:19 PM
You're right, I don't know where I got 14 from.

And anyway, she is likely a bought and paid for liar, just like those skanks that lied about Herman Cain. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 07, 2012, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
And anyway, she is likely a bought and paid for liar, just like those skanks that lied about Herman Cain. 
Wow, JFK is running for office?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 08, 2012, 06:57:39 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 07, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
And anyway, she is likely a bought and paid for liar, just like those skanks that lied about Herman Cain. 

Let's wake you up with another excerpt, how John Fitzworthless forced her into giving oral sex to a subordinate, Dave Powers, and how she was forced to inhale amyl nitrate "poppers" against her will.....

QuoteHigh Times in Hollywood

It was a passionate but not a loving affair, Alford reflects. She and Kennedy never kissed, and she always referred to him as "Mr. President." While for the most part she was drawn in by Kennedy's playfulness and charisma, Alford writes of a number of moments when she saw Kennedy's "darker side." On a trip west with the president during the winter of her sophomore year, Mimi accompanied Kennedy to a party at Bing Crosby's house in Palm Springs, Calif. With the president surrounded by "a fast Hollywood crowd," someone offered him amyl nitrite, or "poppers." When Mimi refused to try the drug, Kennedy made her inhale the fumes anyway.

In the Company of Other Men

During a noonday swim, with David Powers sitting at the edge of the pool while Kennedy and Mimi splashed around, the president said to her, "Mr. Powers looks a little tense. Would you take care of it?" Understanding that she was being instructed to give Powers oral sex, Mimi obliged.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/interns-memoir-details-affair-with-president-kennedy.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/interns-memoir-details-affair-with-president-kennedy.html)

A Kennedy was involved. The same family that produced the cold-blooded killer of Mary Jo Kopechne --- who by YOUR standards was obviously bought off by the GOP to embarrass the piece of shit from Bahhhhhston.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 06:57:39 AM
Let's wake you up with another excerpt, how John Fitzworthless forced her into giving oral sex to a subordinate, Dave Powers, and how she was forced to inhale amyl nitrate "poppers" against her will.....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/interns-memoir-details-affair-with-president-kennedy.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/interns-memoir-details-affair-with-president-kennedy.html)

A Kennedy was involved. The same family that produced the cold-blooded killer of Mary Jo Kopechne --- who by YOUR standards was obviously bought off by the GOP to embarrass the piece of shit from Bahhhhhston.

Better reread the article, genius.  I don't think she even implied she was forced to do any of it. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 08, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
So a married President forces a virgin to surrender to him, simply because she was there, and passes her around to his pals like a party favor, and you of course find nothing wrong with that and must trash the bearer of bad news against your scumbag piece of shit Kennedy.

At age 19, at that time, she was too young to vote. Not a rational adult. Dems at that time *DID* object to 19-year-old males being too young to serve in Vietnam.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
So a married President forces a virgin to surrender to him, simply because she was there, and passes her around to his pals like a party favor, and you of course find nothing wrong with that and must trash the bearer of bad news against your scumbag piece of shit Kennedy.

At age 19, at that time, she was too young to vote. Not a rational adult. Dems at that time *DID* object to 19-year-old males being too young to serve in Vietnam.

I am not convinced she was a virgin or that he forced her.  I am not even convinced any of this happened.  I mean, women lie about powerful men all the time.  Look at what happened to Mr. Cain. 

And at least a few of you conservatards on this site think Kennedy would be a pub by today's standards.  Maybe he really was a pub at heart?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: taxed on February 08, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
Wow.  I'm watching "The Kennedys" min-series, and they sure portray him as being like this...
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 08, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Dems still can't grasp that Kennedy shared the same mistress as mobster Sam Giancana (Judith Exner) and that he and equally worthless brother Bobby shared Marilyn Monroe. Nor can they explain why Mary Jo Kopechne's body was cremated in record time, before any autopsy would catch anything like, say, a pregnancy with Teddy Kennedy's DNA in it.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: taxed on February 08, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
Wow.  I'm watching "The Kennedys" min-series, and they sure portray him as being like this...

Yeah, but is it Fox?  YOu know how the media lies!
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Dems still can't grasp that Kennedy shared the same mistress as mobster Sam Giancana (Judith Exner) and that he and equally worthless brother Bobby shared Marilyn Monroe. Nor can they explain why Mary Jo Kopechne's body was cremated in record time, before any autopsy would catch anything like, say, a pregnancy with Teddy Kennedy's DNA in it.

Of course they did.  They were sleazeballs when it came to sex.  Lots of people are.  Even conservatards!
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: quiller on February 08, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
Then why are you trying so hard to defend Kennedy by maligning the victim? Is that the DNC Autonomic Response equivalent to tapping a kneecap with a rubber mallet?
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: quiller on February 08, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
Then why are you trying so hard to defend Kennedy by maligning the victim? Is that the DNC Autonomic Response equivalent to tapping a kneecap with a rubber mallet?

I am neither defending Kennedy nor maligning the victim.  I am not sure there is a victim, frankly.  YOu conservatards know better than I how women like to lie about powerful political figures.  Some do it for thrills.  Some do it for attention.  Some do it for pay.  I don't what the motive was for those skanks that lied about Cain, nor do I know this lady's motive.  But it could be she's lying.  Certainly wouldn't be the first time. 
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: Solar on February 08, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
Looks like she simply wanted to get the story straight.

QuoteAlford, who was Mimi Beardsley when the affair took place, has said she wrote the memoir to give her side of the story after she was romantically linked with the assassinated president in several presidential biographies.
Quote
QuoteKennedy's womanizing has long been a matter for biographers, though it was little known to the public at the time.
Title: Re: Ya gotta admire JFK!!
Post by: taxed on February 08, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on February 08, 2012, 04:10:38 PM
I am neither defending Kennedy nor maligning the victim.  I am not sure there is a victim, frankly.  YOu conservatards know better than I how women like to lie about powerful political figures.  Some do it for thrills.  Some do it for attention.  Some do it for pay.  I don't what the motive was for those skanks that lied about Cain, nor do I know this lady's motive.  But it could be she's lying.  Certainly wouldn't be the first time. 

Kennedy has a lot of evidence that he was a cheater.  Not so with Cain.  Try again.