Hard to believe that he would have been 80 but then I am much older too. (I thought he was old at 42 when he died.) Just thought to share a moment of.. Favorite song..
ELVIS PRESLEY SUSPICIOUS MINDS YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAm1j2njBaA#)
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 08, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Hard to believe that he would have been 80 but then I am much older too. (I thought he was old at 42 when he died.) Just thought to share a moment of.. Favorite song..
ELVIS PRESLEY SUSPICIOUS MINDS YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAm1j2njBaA#)
The young man did not show me much. But other did like him.
Quote from: walkstall on January 08, 2015, 07:46:36 PM
The young man did not show me much. But other did like him.
Mom was born in 1933 and he did nothing for her. I was born in 1955 and he did nothing for me. By the time by boys were born, he was dead.
I've always thought of Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, and Neil Young as the three most ridiculously overrated talents of the early rock era. Neil Young is clearly proof that sometimes bad shit, like jock itch, lasts for a really long time.
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 08, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Mom was born in 1933 and he did nothing for her. I was born in 1955 and he did nothing for me. By the time by boys were born, he was dead.
I've always thought of Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix, and Neil Young as the three most ridiculously overrated talents of the early rock era. Neil Young is clearly proof that sometimes bad shit, like jock itch, lasts for a really long time.
I am sure there going to be some nice little old ladies rocking in there rocking chairs to jailhouse rock.
Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock (Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj0Rz-uP4Mk#)
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 08, 2015, 08:19:03 PM
Neil Young is clearly proof that sometimes bad shit, like jock itch, lasts for a really long time.
Twenty seconds after my inauguration, he'd be on my No-entry list and stay there. I'd jam Canadian stations powerful enough to be heard down here if they play even one of his songs. I'd send people to burn down the place where he was born and spread salt on the scorched earth. Then I'd have free Tim Horton's for 20 people, FOREVER, to whoever brings in his tongue.
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The actual badge Nixon gave Elvis for fighting drug abuse.
Quote from: quiller on January 08, 2015, 08:45:25 PM
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The actual badge Nixon gave Elvis for fighting drug abuse.
It was probably found in his shirt pocket when they discovered him on the toilet dead. I will say that, of those who fought drugs and lost -- and that is a very long list -- he lasted longer than most.
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 08, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Hard to believe that he would have been 80 but then I am much older too. (I thought he was old at 42 when he died.) Just thought to share a moment of.. Favorite song..
ELVIS PRESLEY SUSPICIOUS MINDS YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAm1j2njBaA#)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Maybe it is a girl thing. The first movie I ever saw was at a drive-in with my cousins in Kentucky. It was Blue Hawaii and I was sucked in....
Toy :love: :love:
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 08, 2015, 07:34:18 PM
Hard to believe that he would have been 80 but then I am much older too. (I thought he was old at 42 when he died.) Just thought to share a moment of.. Favorite song..
ELVIS PRESLEY SUSPICIOUS MINDS YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAm1j2njBaA#)
Hey wow, I had no idea he was that young when he passed away either.
Sad too, Elvis was talented, AND (as lots of people don't know) VOLUNTEERED for service and was a veteran of the Military.
Great guy there, how many other movie/recording artists would stop, pause mid career and then go into the Military?
Not any, because none have. (at least to my knowledge that is)
Quote from: daidalos on January 21, 2015, 12:13:35 AM
Hey wow, I had no idea he was that young when he passed away either.
Sad too, Elvis was talented, AND (as lots of people don't know) VOLUNTEERED for service and was a veteran of the Military.
Great guy there, how many other movie/recording artists would stop, pause mid career and then go into the Military?
Not any, because none have. (at least to my knowledge that is)
I'd offer one slight correction to the OP. It's hardly sad that Elvis
would have been 80 this past birthday; rather, it's a simple fact of the passage of time. However, it is sad in a way that he
could have been 80, but instead "left the building" (and the planet) at 42. His cause of death was the accumulation of his own destructive life choices.
I feel like old age and perspective has turned me into a kill-joy.
Elvis Presely was a Satanic force who made a mockery of the Holy Ghost
church he was raised in, did more to corrupt American youth by legitimizing
amphetamine use than any other star of his time, and paraded sexual immorality
before the nation as a darling of a corrupt music industry and cheap publications.
If you really want to see Elvis in his glory, go to you tube and look at the last
performance. It is the one where his handlers dab the sweat from his brow while
he psyches himself into a drug induced trance, off stage waiting to come on.
Good golly Miss Molly, you sure like to ball: Song about a white prostitute
in a black whorehouse and how she loves to get it on. Whole lotta shakin going on.
Portrays and interprets Holy Ghost quaking in terms of drug induced uncontrollable
sexual frenzy. Blue suede shoes. Institutionalized narcissm.
Elvis ushered in the era of the assault on Christian morality. Thanks to
Hank Williams and Nashville, country music in general had turned itself into
a spectacle of vicarious living of touring musicians temptation and substance
abuse. It cut across lines, the booze and womanizing. Gospel singer Sam Cooke
was executed by his own father, so upset was his father with the mockery Sam
Cooke had left the church to participate in.
That era was to feature pop idols such as Hugh Hefner, Chuck Berry,
Billy Graham, and Walt Disney. The "best" was yet to come.
Quote from: red_dirt on January 22, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
I feel like old age and perspective has turned me into a kill-joy.
Elvis Presely was a Satanic force who made a mockery of the Holy Ghost
church he was raised in, did more to corrupt American youth by legitimizing
amphetamine use than any other star of his time, and paraded sexual immorality
before the nation as a darling of a corrupt music industry and cheap publications.
If you really want to see Elvis in his glory, go to you tube and look at the last
performance. It is the one where his handlers dab the sweat from his brow while
he psyches himself into a drug induced trance, off stage waiting to come on.
Good golly Miss Molly, you sure like to ball: Song about a white prostitute
in a black whorehouse and how she loves to get it on. Whole lotta shakin going on.
Portrays and interprets Holy Ghost quaking in terms of drug induced uncontrollable
sexual frenzy. Blue suede shoes. Institutionalized narcissm.
Elvis ushered in the era of the assault on Christian morality. Thanks to
Hank Williams and Nashville, country music in general had turned itself into
a spectacle of vicarious living of touring musicians temptation and substance
abuse. It cut across lines, the booze and womanizing. Gospel singer Sam Cooke
was executed by his own father, so upset was his father with the mockery Sam
Cooke had left the church to participate in.
That era was to feature pop idols such as Hugh Hefner, Chuck Berry,
Billy Graham, and Walt Disney. The "best" was yet to come.
Wow! I take it you have links for all this right? I was not a fan of Elvis but I did not look on him as evil. Just a young man doing and saying thing mom and dads did not like at that time. It been the same for every generation that has come along.
So what do you think of Lawrence Welk ?
Go to you tube and look at Elvis's last performances. There have been tell-all books written
by former members of his entourage whose only motive was that the truth be known. Everyone
loved Elvis, that's not the point.
This is a sordid subject, not something to make a presentation about. Maybe you had to
be there to understand the conflicts between the church and "the devil's music." Kristoferson
talks about it. Most everyone takes it with a grain of salt and a sense of humor. If you ever
hear anyone refer to Nashville and the Trash Mill, now you'll know what they are talking about.
When Elvis appeared on national television, the camera showed him only waist up, so
explicit and sexual were his pelvic gyrations. In fact, they joked and called him Elvis the Pelvis.
Yes, the explicit drug use and sexual immorality of blues and jazz musicians during the 1920's
and 1930's was much discussed, so it was nothing new. Later, it would go over the top. To openly
discuss the issues is to open one self up to charges of judgmental behavior. Me? I say to hell with
political correctness, tell it like it is.
Quote from: walkstall on January 22, 2015, 01:41:06 PM
Wow! I take it you have links for all this right? I was not a fan of Elvis but I did not look on him as evil. Just a young man doing and saying thing mom and dads did not like at that time. It been the same for every generation that has come along.
So what do you think of Lawrence Welk ?
The guy running that bubble machine was probably a communist. And those
Lenin Sisters! :lol:
I wasn't an Elvis fan after seeing Love Me Tender in the theater and seeing a few of his guest appearances. I missed the "Ed Sullivan Show" performance that was waist-up (mentioned above) but did see his physical decline and the final clownish self-parody that he became.
This generation, it's which Kardashian has the biggest whatever, or how ignorant Justin Beiber can get before someone turns off his air.
Quote from: quiller on January 23, 2015, 01:34:29 AM
The guy running that bubble machine was probably a communist. And those Lenin Sisters! :lol:
I wasn't an Elvis fan after seeing Love Me Tender in the theater and seeing a few of his guest appearances. I missed the "Ed Sullivan Show" performance that was waist-up (mentioned above) but did see his physical decline and the final clownish self-parody that he became.
This generation, it's which Kardashian has the biggest whatever, or how ignorant Justin Beiber can get before someone turns off his air.
Actually, Kim does have a super-fine posterior, if your taste runs to the jumbo economy size. What's the old saw?
The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin'. Sounds like something penned by a fat girl. :tounge:
What I don't understand is this flood of "personalities" getting rich for being... "personalities." What's up with that? Kim produces nothing except, I suppose, soul-stirring moments for Kanye West, and his half-breed children. :blink:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 23, 2015, 03:06:10 PM
Actually, Kim does have a super-fine posterior, if your taste runs to the jumbo economy size. What's the old saw? The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin'. Sounds like something penned by a fat girl. :tounge:
What I don't understand is this flood of "personalities" getting rich for being... "personalities." What's up with that? Kim produces nothing except, I suppose, soul-stirring moments for Kanye West, and his half-breed children. :blink:
I suggest there is no sense in trying to predict what or who will ring a man's chimes. It baffles me as well trying to understand celebrity-for-being-a-celebrity. And anyone who can explain why Honey Boo Boo is not in state custody for protection against her mother's choice in boyfriends, let me know.
(*shrugs, stumbles away*)
The pre-boring Elvis invented some great lead-singer moves, which I liked. I was born in'52 and was aware of commercial schlock pretty early.
-Liked Elvis' Flying Saucers Rock & Roll.
-Wasn't fond of Sheb Wooley's Flying Purple People Eater.
I usually had to go to bed before Ed Sullivan came-on, but was aware of the live TV-cam controversy of only showing Elvis from the waist up.
I was basically 'into' Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry, and Annette Funicello... plus alotta one-hit-wonders, by the time I learned some old man was ordering Elvis around. That ruined it, for me. You can't be a rebel when 'the establishment' controls your career.
For Welk, I wish someone would've forced me to go to bed before he came-on. It was all pretty awful and schlock-y. Even Bobby didn't help, moving-over from Disney.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 23, 2015, 09:25:32 PM
The pre-boring Elvis invented some great lead-singer moves, which I liked. I was born in'52 and was aware of commercial schlock pretty early.
-Liked Elvis' Flying Saucers Rock & Roll.
-Wasn't fond of Sheb Wooley's Flying Purple People Eater.
I usually had to go to bed before Ed Sullivan came-on, but was aware of the live TV-cam controversy of only showing Elvis from the waist up.
I was basically 'into' Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry, and Annette Funicello... plus alotta one-hit-wonders, by the time I learned some old man was ordering Elvis around. That ruined it, for me. You can't be a rebel when 'the establishment' controls your career.
For Welk, I wish someone would've forced me to go to bed before he came-on. It was all pretty awful and schlock-y. Even Bobby didn't help, moving-over from Disney.
Yet, not one single mention of "Sing along with Mitch"?
Blasphemous I tell ya. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2015, 06:19:20 AM
Yet, not one single mention of "Sing along with Mitch"?
Blasphemous I tell ya. :biggrin:
Ha! Yes, yes, just follow the bouncing ball.... :tounge: That was one of my mom's favorites, along with Jon Gnagy's "Learn to Draw" show.
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 24, 2015, 11:32:47 AM
Ha! Yes, yes, just follow the bouncing ball.... :tounge: That was one of my mom's favorites, along with Jon Gnagy's "Learn to Draw" show.
Yep, mom and I would sing along. The rest of the family thought we were nuts.
Good memories. :cool:
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2015, 06:19:20 AM
Yet, not one single mention of "Sing along with Mitch"?
Blasphemous I tell ya. :biggrin:
His gimmick didn't work that well compared to Welk's studio-audience
dancing gimmick, projecting the aura of a ballroom-show. Audiences were gonna sing/hum anyway.
Welk
did grab one of Elvis' backup singers, though. -That low-baritone guy.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 24, 2015, 11:29:36 PM
His gimmick didn't work that well compared to Welk's studio-audience dancing gimmick, projecting the aura of a ballroom-show. Audiences were gonna sing/hum anyway.
Welk did grab one of Elvis' backup singers, though. -That low-baritone guy.
No doubt Mitch's show didn't have the lasting appeal Welk's did, and I believe a lot of it was due to generational issues, much of Mitch's audience were already in their final years, where Welk's was cross-generational and attracted a much larger viewership.
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2015, 04:31:37 AM
No doubt Mitch's show didn't have the lasting appeal Welk's did, and I believe a lot of it was due to generational issues, much of Mitch's audience were already in their final years, where Welk's was cross-generational and attracted a much larger viewership.
I just always enjoyed Welk's distinctive North Dakota twang. :tounge:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 25, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
I just always enjoyed Welk's distinctive North Dakota twang. :tounge:
:biggrin:
and...uhh-one-nah and uhh two-uh and...
What's not to luv?
Quote from: Solar on January 25, 2015, 03:46:09 PM
:biggrin:
and...uhh-one-nah and uhh two-uh and...
What's not to luv?
Welk was born in a German-speaking community, but he learned English at an early age, and I read a while back that he normally spoke perfect colloquial English. He reverted to the accent of his German parents as a gimmick for the show.
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 25, 2015, 04:24:38 PM
Welk was born in a German-speaking community, but he learned English at an early age, and I read a while back that he normally spoke perfect colloquial English. He reverted to the accent of his German parents as a gimmick for the show.
I wonder why... I think you're right though. The majority of German-accents are subdued and in-cadence with
English.
Big band/orchestra entertainment was basically fading into
fossilized wood by the mid-50's, in the US. It seemed like the 30-something's were opting for studio-orchestras.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 25, 2015, 08:44:42 PM
I wonder why... I think you're right though. The majority of German-accents are subdued and in-cadence with English.
Big band/orchestra entertainment was basically fading into fossilized wood by the mid-50's, in the US. It seemed like the 30-something's were opting for studio-orchestras.
Maybe, maybe not. For sure, Welk found a niche. That niche would not exist in the absence of demand.
I think what Welk tapped into was the pool of boomers and pre-boomers -- the folks who really built the war-time economy -- and owned them. Both of my parents, for example, were children of the Great Depression, and they were both big-time Welk fans.
There is a post-war social miasma -- a nasty, ugly, smelly mess that persists to this day -- that Lawrence Welk protected us all from. I wish he was still talking funny today. :tounge:
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 25, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Maybe, maybe not. For sure, Welk found a niche. That niche would not exist in the absence of demand.
I think what Welk tapped into was the pool of boomers and pre-boomers -- the folks who really built the war-time economy -- and owned them. Both of my parents, for example, were children of the Great Depression, and they were both big-time Welk fans.
There is a post-war social miasma -- a nasty, ugly, smelly mess that persists to this day -- that Lawrence Welk protected us all from. I wish he was still talking funny today. :tounge:
I can't muster an argument against ya, other than what the champagne-bubbles were supposed to be signifying, in
my mind.
Partying: non Amy Vanderbilt style. Like Kay Kyser's and Xavier Cugat's crews were famous for. America had the cold war/
work hard, play hard thing going-on. Welk had a sheltering influence, but 'we' wanted Abby Lane in-feathers, singing "Hey, Big Spender" or Peggy Lee, singing "Fever".
That was another thing working against Welk. No songwriters on-contract. He was just doing other people's stuff.
Quote from: kit saginaw on January 26, 2015, 03:41:35 PM
I can't muster an argument against ya, other than what the champagne-bubbles were supposed to be signifying, in my mind. Partying: non Amy Vanderbilt style. Like Kay Kyser's and Xavier Cugat's crews were famous for. America had the cold war/work hard, play hard thing going-on. Welk had a sheltering influence, but 'we' wanted Abby Lane in-feathers, singing "Hey, Big Spender" or Peggy Lee, singing "Fever".
That was another thing working against Welk. No songwriters on-contract. He was just doing other people's stuff.
Let's not forget Edie Adams, peddling Muriel cigars in that glittery dress, and Gunilla Knutson encouraging us to use Noxzema's shave cream to "take it off... take it all off" to the strains of David Rose's "The Stripper." Neither gal would ever serve as Welk's "champagne lady." :tounge:
"If there had'nt been an Elvis, there wouldn't have been the Beatles." John Lennon
Quote from: kalash on March 27, 2015, 08:42:11 AM
"If there had'nt been an Elvis, there wouldn't have been the Beatles." John Lennon
That's like saying:
If there hadn't been a Django Reinhardt,
there wouldn't have been a post-war 'gypsy swing' movement.