Where in the Constitution does it say the words "right to remain silent"?
Where in the Constitution does it say that the police have to explain the Constitution to you before you talk?
where in the Constitution does it say that if can't afford legal representation, the government has to pay for it? 

To me, it's understood that the First Amendment gives you the right to freely express, as well as the right to freely not express. People are too hard up on saying something, but forget they can also not say something if they like.

I thought it was ruled that having to give a Miranda warning was ruled illegal?

Cops are not necessarily your friend, especially when you are in their sites, simply shut up and state you are taking the Fifth, at which point they must stop asking questions.

Your lawyer will thank you.

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 06, 2024, 11:12:28 PMWhere in the Constitution does it say the words "right to remain silent"?
Where in the Constitution does it say that the police have to explain the Constitution to you before you talk?
where in the Constitution does it say that if can't afford legal representation, the government has to pay for it? 

To me, it's understood that the First Amendment gives you the right to freely express, as well as the right to freely not express. People are too hard up on saying something, but forget they can also not say something if they like.

Those items you mentioned are not in the constitution, specifically the bill of rights, mainly because the constitution does not give rights. The bill of rights puts limits on the government. If you look at it from that perspective it should make a little more sense. Miranda came about because the court felt the common man, which does include the common criminal, has no idea that his rights do not come from the government, nor that government can not take rights away from a U.S. citizen individual without due process.

I remember when the Marinda ruling came out all the cries that police would not be able to get confessions anymore. that did not happen. Nor is it the biggest handicap police face today, that would be liberal judges who release those found guilty.

On the bright side, Maranda, who was a thug convicted of kidnapping and rape, was retried, found guilty again. Later in life after serving his sentence, he was stabbed to death. Don't you just love stories with happy endings. 

I believe that the Rights thing is understood. We can all recite TV cop shows. If anything, it could be said at the station (not at the scene) as an official procedure (with a witness, documentation of some kind).

1. Charge
2. Rights
3. Securing possessions and/or evidence
4. Medical care (including food/drink)
5. Communication to loved ones/legal council
6. Next step (hearing, bail, released under conditions, remain in custody, etc)

Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2024, 07:41:22 AMYour lawyer will thank you.

If people would not commit crimes, decent people of society will thank them.

"the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few"

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 07, 2024, 10:35:24 AMI believe that the Rights thing is understood. We can all recite TV cop shows. If anything, it could be said at the station (not at the scene) as an official procedure (with a witness, documentation of some kind).

1. Charge
2. Rights
3. Securing possessions and/or evidence
4. Medical care (including food/drink)
5. Communication to loved ones/legal council
6. Next step (hearing, bail, released under conditions, remain in custody, etc)

If people would not commit crimes, decent people of society will thank them.

"the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few"

Even during a traffic stop, it's best not to talk, and if pressed, say I prefer not to answer questions, if necessary, invoke your Fifth to remain silent.

It's more important now more than ever to know your rights, policing has changed dramatically in just the last 20 years.
Cops didn't used to look for reasons to arrest you, the new system is designed for that very purpose.
Just look how the left fucked up our culture, they did the same to policing.