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General Category => The Constitution => Topic started by: Hoofer on May 23, 2021, 12:04:27 PM

Title: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Hoofer on May 23, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
You gotta be kidding.  Human suffering is a GOOD thing, if it reduces CO2 levels?
Laura Ingram predicts the next lockdown could be ... to get cars off the road.


Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: RV on May 23, 2021, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 23, 2021, 12:04:27 PMYou gotta be kidding.  Human suffering is a GOOD thing, if it reduces CO2 levels?
Laura Ingram predicts the next lockdown could be ... to get cars off the road.


Absolutely no insanity of the left would surprise me at this point. What has surprised me is how easily people were willing to give up their constitutional rights just because some obscure Communist organization said they should.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 23, 2021, 12:27:10 PM
Quote from: RV on May 23, 2021, 12:15:18 PMAbsolutely no insanity of the left would surprise me at this point. What has surprised me is how easily people were willing to give up their constitutional rights just because some obscure Communist organization said they should.

This brings home the real meaning of "give em an inch and they'll take a mile. It's time to pull these assholes up short and stop this foolish shitting around.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Hoofer on May 23, 2021, 12:33:14 PM
It took a court of law to stop the CDC from grabbing power that was not their's.

HOW... do you go after the people of the next lockdown?

Bravo to the handful of governors & state legislatures who have passed laws nullifying the overreach of the federal government.   However, we are just ONE SCOTUS ruling away from declaring these lock downs "legal".   Can you imagine, Biden signing an executive order, declaring a Climate Change emergency, and shutting down the economy again?
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Tory Potter on May 23, 2021, 12:57:28 PM
Regardless of what you believe about climate change, the transition to nuclear power is a licence to print money. It will mean jobs for everyone.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 23, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: Tory Potter on May 23, 2021, 12:57:28 PMRegardless of what you believe about climate change, the transition to nuclear power is a licence to print money. It will mean jobs for everyone.

How do you figure that? WTF do you know about nuclear energy? Do you even know what LFTR stands for or how it could put a sudden end to the solar and wind bullshit while putting the arabs back on camel back?
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Tory Potter on May 23, 2021, 02:08:11 PM
If they can make the LFTR (virtually unlimited power) viable, that is even better but in the interim, conventional reactors and small modular reactors can bridge the gap. It means we can electrify and re-build the rail and highway system and replace gas and diesel vehicles with electric. We are on the cusp of the greatest economic revolution in history. I'm going to be shopping for a North American made Ford F150 Lightning in a couple of years.
We had better get busy or China will dominate the industry.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: RV on May 23, 2021, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 23, 2021, 12:33:14 PMIt took a court of law to stop the CDC from grabbing power that was not their's.

HOW... do you go after the people of the next lockdown?

Bravo to the handful of governors & state legislatures who have passed laws nullifying the overreach of the federal government.  However, we are just ONE SCOTUS ruling away from declaring these lock downs "legal".  Can you imagine, Biden signing an executive order, declaring a Climate Change emergency, and shutting down the economy again?

Can I imagine it? YES! Bejing will do whatever his handlers tell him to. He is not coherent or cognitive enough to have a clue about what his EO's do to the "little people" and like all Democrats, he wouldn't care anyway.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: Tory Potter on May 23, 2021, 02:08:11 PMIf they can make the LFTR (virtually unlimited power) viable, that is even better but in the interim, conventional reactors and small modular reactors can bridge the gap. It means we can electrify and re-build the rail and highway system and replace gas and diesel vehicles with electric. We are on the cusp of the greatest economic revolution in history. I'm going to be shopping for a North American made Ford F150 Lightning in a couple of years.
We had better get busy or China will dominate the industry.
In the late 50s early sixties two LFTRs were built and run sucessfully. There is no if it can be done because it has akready been done. The rest is simple scaleing.
You could easliy and economicall convert every fossil fueled plant in existance over to nuclear with a LFTR as the heat source. The technology is inherently scalable.
In addition spent fuel waste from idiotic and inherently dangerous uranium fueled light water nuclear fission reactors could be used up as fuel.
The only reason we aren't doing it is political pressure from the fossel fuel lobbies and now the solar, wind and ethanol assholes too.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: RV on May 24, 2021, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 09:06:00 AMIn the late 50s early sixties two LFTRs were built and run sucessfully. There is no if it can be done because it has akready been done. The rest is simple scaleing.
You could easliy and economicall convert every fossil fueled plant in existance over to nuclear with a LFTR as the heat source. The technology is inherently scalable.
In addition spent fuel waste from idiotic and inherently dangerous uranium fueled light water nuclear fission reactors could be used up as fuel.
The only reason we aren't doing it is political pressure from the fossel fuel lobbies and now the solar, wind and ethanol assholes too.

There are vast federal storage facilities housing spent nuclear fuel and radioactive water currently (that we the tax payers are footing the bill for). If it is possible to use that spent fuel and water instead of storing it, it should be done.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: RV on May 24, 2021, 09:34:02 AMThere are vast federal storage facilities housing spent nuclear fuel and radioactive water currently (that we the tax payers are footing the bill for). If it is possible to use that spent fuel and water instead of storing it, it should be done.
From what I understand spent fuel yes but I haven't seen or heard anything on water. I know nothing about radioactive water.
You can look it up though because there is a lot of info about thorium fueled nucler fission out there.
So much that I find it both odd and suspecious that it's not better understood and more widely known.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Tory Potter on May 24, 2021, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: RV on May 24, 2021, 09:34:02 AMThere are vast federal storage facilities housing spent nuclear fuel and radioactive water currently (that we the tax payers are footing the bill for). If it is possible to use that spent fuel and water instead of storing it, it should be done.
Thanks. That is very encouraging. My only hesitancy is based on the old "if it's too good to be true..." idea. So far, everything I've heard is positive. It can even be used to fuel a CANDU reactor, but with a loss of efficiency. The LFTR is a superior reactor.
We also need to find a better solution to the present batteries used in electric cars.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: Tory Potter on May 24, 2021, 11:02:56 AMThanks. That is very encouraging. My only hesitancy is based on the old "if it's too good to be true..." idea. So far, everything I've heard is positive. It can even be used to fuel a CANDU reactor, but with a loss of efficiency. The LFTR is a superior reactor.
We also need to find a better solution to the present batteries used in electric cars.
Actually if we had enough LFTRs in place we really wouldn't batteries because we could have enough cheap clean energy to produce enough hydrogen to run cars on. Batteries add conversion steps which adds ineffeciency  plus they add weight and limit range. When looking at viable options one needs to start at the beginning and consider each step, not just cherry pick the good stuff. That's why splar and wind are so stupid now, no one looks at the whole picture, just what they want to hear. And that's why liberal arts degreed shitforbrains types should sit down and STFU on anything energy related. They simply aren't equipped to understand anything involving physics. 
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: RV on May 24, 2021, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Tory Potter on May 24, 2021, 11:02:56 AMThanks. That is very encouraging. My only hesitancy is based on the old "if it's too good to be true..." idea. So far, everything I've heard is positive. It can even be used to fuel a CANDU reactor, but with a loss of efficiency. The LFTR is a superior reactor.
We also need to find a better solution to the present batteries used in electric cars.

Yeah, personally, I would not own an electric car. The battery technology is atrocious and sorely lacking. My Son had a "hybrid" SUV and even it had problems and the batteries were really expensive to replace. Even my rechargeable toothbrush is sorely lacking after several recharges. The Democrats can push their coal fired electrics all they want, this family is sticking with fossil fuel burning automobiles.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Tory Potter on May 24, 2021, 12:35:21 PM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 11:14:50 AMAnd that's why liberal arts degreed shitforbrains types should sit down and STFU on anything energy related. They simply aren't equipped to understand anything involving physics.
That's me you are referring to and you are right.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: Hoofer on May 24, 2021, 01:49:30 PM
Reading this, and LAUGHING...   A friend of mine bought 3 of those ORIGINAL GM Electric cars, before they were recalled by GM and junked.... hmmm 1990's...?  The movie, "Who Killed the Electric Car?" was a hit piece on GM and whoever, by environmentalists - FALSE.   It took parts from 3 of these to make 1 working EV, they were burnt up, cracked up - he figured the professors & staff deliberately tried to destroy them, just to get rid of them.

The EV cars were given to UWMadison staff to "try and test" - they deliberately broke them.  They were ice cold in the Wisconsin winters, and had a range of about 40 miles on a charge.  I rode in one of them.  It was like an enclosed golf cart.  This guy got it 100% charged, drove to my place, and plugged it in, the charger buzzed away like a golf cart charger, with a big ole extension cord running out of our apartment.. for hours!  It looked kinda like a "VW Thing".

So, that's what CURED me of ever wanting an electric car... forever.   I'll take a turbo-charged Diesel Truck, with an 18k towing capacity, 1.5 ton hauling capacity and rides like a sedan over this other junk.  When I want FULL POWER, those turbos deliver 100%, whether I'm just starting out, or 600 miles down the road.  15min, it's fully "recharged" for another 500 miles... the only interruption is draining "My" lower unit.


As far as Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) - Dickfoster - if you think it's really the answer, ping Elon Musk, I bet he's been asked/answered that question, hundreds of times.
It's a pipe dream, and you're derailing the thread, should have started somewhere else, IMO.

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RV is DEAD ON - we're both surprised how easily Americans just folded up and said, OK, I'll wear a mask, shut down, etc., so, the real question is, IS IT COMING AGAIN - and are we gonna get blindsided and shut down the economy AGAIN for Biden?
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on May 24, 2021, 01:49:30 PMReading this, and LAUGHING...  A friend of mine bought 3 of those ORIGINAL GM Electric cars, before they were recalled by GM and junked.... hmmm 1990's...?  The movie, "Who Killed the Electric Car?" was a hit piece on GM and whoever, by environmentalists - FALSE.  It took parts from 3 of these to make 1 working EV, they were burnt up, cracked up - he figured the professors & staff deliberately tried to destroy them, just to get rid of them.

The EV cars were given to UWMadison staff to "try and test" - they deliberately broke them.  They were ice cold in the Wisconsin winters, and had a range of about 40 miles on a charge.  I rode in one of them.  It was like an enclosed golf cart.  This guy got it 100% charged, drove to my place, and plugged it in, the charger buzzed away like a golf cart charger, with a big ole extension cord running out of our apartment.. for hours!  It looked kinda like a "VW Thing".

So, that's what CURED me of ever wanting an electric car... forever.  I'll take a turbo-charged Diesel Truck, with an 18k towing capacity, 1.5 ton hauling capacity and rides like a sedan over this other junk.  When I want FULL POWER, those turbos deliver 100%, whether I'm just starting out, or 600 miles down the road.  15min, it's fully "recharged" for another 500 miles... the only interruption is draining "My" lower unit.


As far as Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) - Dickfoster - if you think it's really the answer, ping Elon Musk, I bet he's been asked/answered that question, hundreds of times.
It's a pipe dream, and you're derailing the thread, should have started somewhere else, IMO.

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RV is DEAD ON - we're both surprised how easily Americans just folded up and said, OK, I'll wear a mask, shut down, etc., so, the real question is, IS IT COMING AGAIN - and are we gonna get blindsided and shut down the economy AGAIN for Biden?

It worked and the physics is all there and proven. Its no pipe dream but it may be way over a lot of peoples heads while many don't want to acknoledge it simply because it's a game changer. 7
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: RV on May 26, 2021, 05:22:13 AM
Quote from: dickfoster on May 24, 2021, 11:14:50 AMActually if we had enough LFTRs in place we really wouldn't batteries because we could have enough cheap clean energy to produce enough hydrogen to run cars on. Batteries add conversion steps which adds ineffeciency  plus they add weight and limit range. When looking at viable options one needs to start at the beginning and consider each step, not just cherry pick the good stuff. That's why splar and wind are so stupid now, no one looks at the whole picture, just what they want to hear. And that's why liberal arts degreed shitforbrains types should sit down and STFU on anything energy related. They simply aren't equipped to understand anything involving physics.

IMHO, the problem isn't a matter of education nor understanding. The problem is that claimed "educated" people are deliberately weighing in on energy related issues even though they are fully aware that they have no clue. The uneducated masses think that somehow a degree in anything makes one an expert in everything. They are leading the country down a miserable, energy less, ridiculous path all in the name of "global warming/climate change. All one needs to do is look at liberal states like Commiefornia and it becomes apparent that they haven't a clue but, intend to make everyone suffer anyway.
Title: Re: Global Warming the next Lockdown?
Post by: dickfoster on May 26, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
Quote from: RV on May 26, 2021, 05:22:13 AMIMHO, the problem isn't a matter of education nor understanding. The problem is that claimed "educated" people are deliberately weighing in on energy related issues even though they are fully aware that they have no clue. The uneducated masses think that somehow a degree in anything makes one an expert in everything. They are leading the country down a miserable, energy less, ridiculous path all in the name of "global warming/climate change. All one needs to do is look at liberal states like Commiefornia and it becomes apparent that they haven't a clue but, intend to make everyone suffer anyway.
Yeah somehow they can't see that a degree in gay art history does't make them a friggin physicist.