An interesting article on survival.
Read all about it: http://watchsix.blogspot.com/2009/07/bug-out-bag-get-home-bag-72-hour-kit.html (http://watchsix.blogspot.com/2009/07/bug-out-bag-get-home-bag-72-hour-kit.html)
What do you think?
All really great information to start. I do like the idea of watching and tracking for a couple of days to see what you use. Reminds me of the weight loss trick to track what you eat for a couple of days and then go back and look at it. It definitely gives you a better feel of what you will need.
Your 72 Hour Kit, Bug Out Bag, Get Home Bag, or whatever you want to call it might be as fully equipped as can be, but if you haven't covered the Five S's, it may fall short just when you need it most. Sanitation, Sustenance, Survival, Security, Sanity
http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/09/18/the-five-ss-of-any-emergency-kit/ (http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/09/18/the-five-ss-of-any-emergency-kit/)
I would also like to add that if by chance you had to leave your home due to unforseen circumstance it would be good to find a place where you could set up temp living near water. But not so close that it would flood during high water If you dont have a tent making a debris hut would be good to know.
http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/debris-hut/ (http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/debris-hut/)
Another good idea would be to get with family or friends that have knowledge and know how of planting, gathering hunting, that kind of thing and set a meet place suitable.
;)
Elfie
Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 07:27:24 AM
I would also like to add that if by chance you had to leave your home due to unforseen circumstance it would be good to find a place where you could set up temp living near water. But not so close that it would flood during high water If you dont have a tent making a debris hut would be good to know.
http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/debris-hut/ (http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/debris-hut/)
Another good idea would be to get with family or friends that have knowledge and know how of planting, gathering hunting, that kind of thing and set a meet place suitable.
;)
Elfie
Good point Elfie.
Like the list AF made, maybe much of this, or a small portion could be stared in a trailer that could be quickly accessed in the event you can't return home, seeing how lugging all of this in your car could be an issue.
Included in the it could be Visqueen for making a shelter, or a large tarp.
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2010, 07:32:28 AM
Good point Elfie.
Like the list AF made, maybe much of this, or a small portion could be stared in a trailer that could be quickly accessed in the event you can't return home, seeing how lugging all of this in your car could be an issue.
Included in the it could be Visqueen for making a shelter, or a large tarp.
Oh for sure a tarp of heavy plastic n one of canvas, keeps the creepy crawlies to a minimum, keeps you dry, lots of uses for just in case.
oh n a bow drill,,, gotta have that along with flint and metal for a spark.
Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 07:41:18 AM
Oh for sure a tarp of heavy plastic n one of canvas, keeps the creepy crawlies to a minimum, keeps you dry, lots of uses for just in case.
oh n a bow drill,,, gotta have that along with flint and metal for a spark.
I keep a couple of those self lighting propane torches handy, one in the truck and the other by my pooter, for lighting my cigars. :))
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2010, 07:48:39 AM
I keep a couple of those self lighting propane torches handy, one in the truck and the other by my pooter, for lighting my cigars. :))
lolol,,, good idea!
Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 07:41:18 AM
Oh for sure a tarp of heavy plastic n one of canvas, keeps the creepy crawlies to a minimum, keeps you dry, lots of uses for just in case.
oh n a bow drill,,, gotta have that along with flint and metal for a spark.
Magnesium Fire Starter
http://www.campingsurvival.com/maflsufistst.html (http://www.campingsurvival.com/maflsufistst.html)
Quote from: walkstall on November 23, 2010, 08:01:53 AM
Magnesium Fire Starter
http://www.campingsurvival.com/maflsufistst.html (http://www.campingsurvival.com/maflsufistst.html)
those are cool. i will have to tell eyes about that one.
Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
those are cool. i will have to tell eyes about that one.
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:o What!! he can not rub his hands that fast yet?? LOL
The "city folks" are going to have BIG problems. It won't take long for cities to deteriorate into the "civil unrest" stage, especially when electricity, fresh water, and food are not available for several days and then weeks. Hopefully the "city folks" in this forum have relatives or friends who live out in the country.
If you have a dry basement, that is the best place to store your survival supplies. Use plastic totes to store everything in. Make a master list of what supplies you have, and another list of the supplies you still need to get.
Put together an "evacuation plan". Make sure you have the means to transport all of your necessities.......pickup truck, covered "U-Haul" type trailer, camping trailer, etc. Don't count on being able to procure additional supplies once you have left the city. Thousands of other people will be doing the same thing you are.
Once it is clear that "the shit has hit the fan", if you are a "city dweller", make plans to evacuate as soon as possible. The longer you wait, the slimmer your chances are of getting out of your city safely.
Quote from: walkstall on November 23, 2010, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
those are cool. i will have to tell eyes about that one.
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:o What!! he can not rub his hands that fast yet?? LOL
lol yes he can,,,He has 2 bow drills,,, but this little thing would be great for a better start then a bow drill or magnifying glass... he will love this idea...
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Quote from: Elfie on November 23, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
those are cool. i will have to tell eyes about that one.
They work well. But remember one thing ................ You need something that ignites easily. Generally, something like the bark of a cedar tree or cloth that has been burned and smothered. Those are ideal for starting fires.
Quote from: surfer_squirrel on November 27, 2010, 12:13:25 AM
They work well. But remember one thing ................ You need something that ignites easily. Generally, something like the bark of a cedar tree or cloth that has been burned and smothered. Those are ideal for starting fires.
My suggestion is abandoned birds nests, you can find them in old trees and bushes...also mouse nests, small holes in the ground, dried leaves, twigs etc.
Billy
Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on December 06, 2010, 04:32:26 PM
My suggestion is abandoned birds nests, you can find them in old trees and bushes...also mouse nests, small holes in the ground, dried leaves, twigs etc.
Billy
Good tip.
I myself, look for tree stumps from logging, they tend to be full of pitch, just a match will set it a blaze if you don't have a knife to chip some off.
I have one I uses all the time, it's starting to get kind of small after 20 years of chipping away.
Doug Fir seems to be the best for pitch, or Cedar.
blown cattails are good to, multy purpose with it's ability to insulate, uses of the stalks for mats, a wall,,,tubers for food... a good plant to know.
Elfie
I would also like to add to get your spouse and kids mentally prepared without spooking them on how to stay calm and why. Also when figuring out your food also think about how best to ration what you have. That could include but not limited to what the smallest amount one can eat and still stay functioning. How to package your food for rationing and maxamal storage time. And how not to look to healthy because that will attract attention and that's the last thing you want to do when those unprepared around you are starving.
GREAT point, offgridbob. Don't LOOK like you are well-fed and comfortable and clean. Look like you are just as hungry and thirsty and dirty and desperate as everybody else is. Play "possum". Put signs in your yard and/or in your windows, "NEED FOOD AND WATER AND MEDICINE. PLEASE HELP US!" or "WE HAVE NO HEAT. HELP US!"
The main thing is..........BE PREPARED to use DEADLY FORCE to defend your homestead and all the people who live there. "Normal" people will do "abnormal" things when they are desperate enough.
(Elfie, I have a few magnesium fire starters, one is in my Bug out bag.)
Another tinder that is popular is dryer lint, mix it with petroleum jelly for a waterproof fire starter. Cotton balls and petroleum jelly too. put it in a medicine jar of old plastic film can. Squeeze tubes of chapstick or vaseline are fine fire starters. Squeeze a strip on a stick. No muss.
I leave a complete fire bow set up in one of my kits so If needed, someone can use it as a teaching model. Even if I am not there. Good idea to do that for simple traps too.
It is all well and good to have your house stocked. Don't forget to have a few Caches hidden around away from where you live, so if you cannot get to your house,for whatever reason, you still have back up. If you are overrun, where are you going to go? If you do have a cache, don't just put stuff in a box or ammo can. Don't forget you might have to carry it.
Quote from: Eyesabide on December 10, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
(Elfie, I have a few magnesium fire starters, one is in my Bug out bag.)
well dang,,,here I thought I could tell ya somethin new,lol....oh well.....
All really good ideas, thanks ;D.
I am thinkin it would be good to have bikes for everyone in the house... Just in case the gas runs out...