I have been stocking up on food since last summer. Just trying to stay ahead of what i knew would be rising prices. Yesterday was my first real shock. I even called Solar from Sam's and told him. An item we buy regularly that we have paid $9.68 each for the last couple of years suddenly yesterday was $12.43. :o Fortunately Solar had me stock up on it over a month ago. Milkbone dog biscuits have gone from $7.98 to $8.98 in less than 2 weeks.
Since I go weekly to Sam's I am watching for any changes in the other staples I buy and will jump on some major stock ups when I start to see them climb as well.
Fuel is not the only thing rising out of control... :(
If you think back to late last Summer, that was when I was saying it was about to jump in price and started buying cases.
Sadly there are more products that are about to double in price, the trick is to look at where it comes from, how much it costs to grow and how much oil is involved in its production and transportation.
Thats why coffee is going through the roof.
I expect to see fruit imports to double in cost next Winter, along with tires and batteries.
Unfortunately its nearly impossible to stock up some things, but if you can, stock up on what you consider to be the most important products to you and your family.
Its only going to get worse, a lot worse, before it gets better.
Do to the wet spring only about 12% of the corn that should be planted by now is. A bushel of corn is bringing 7.50 now. Who knows what it will be this fall. If you like to eat meat better fill your freezer now. :o
Quote from: WoodBurner on May 28, 2011, 09:41:03 AM
Do to the wet spring only about 12% of the corn that should be planted by now is. A bushel of corn is bringing 7.50 now. Who knows what it will be this fall. If you like to eat meat better fill your freezer now. :o
Good point, anything at this point that requires corn is only going to increase in price.
Aside from the effects of Nature, the damn greenies and their BS ethanol is killing the ranchers that rely on it for feed, as you mentioned is beef prices.
This administration is slowly squeezing us to death!
Plastics is the next mkt that will be effected since they can no longer absorb the cost increases due to the rising cost of oil.
I've already seen a marked increase in poly tanks, I sell 5000 gallon tanks, I used to sell them at 38 cents a gallon. now I have to sell them at 60 cents a gallon to pull my 15% profit.
As of a year ago I was selling a 2500 gallon tank at 50 cents a gallon = $1250,0, today that tank sells for around $1600,0+ including trucking.
All because the cost of oil, the raw product is made directly from.
These are poly tanks...
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Most definetly buy at least a half cow or pig. It will only help you and the farmer. I just talked to my beef guy and he is still rasing cattle. Very good. Around here they started telling people in February to plant a garden to off set cost. I was at Sam's talking to an old guy standing tyhere gawkin at the price of coffee and hgad a good converstaion with him. He even said, these days if you know how to put up fiood now would be the time to start. I whole heartedly agree. Himself liked to choked when he just by chance looked at the grocery tab. He doesnt go to the grocery unless I am recovering from surgery or am seriously sick....
I have decided to start the dry goods first, then the canning will begin...
We were able to stock up on 150 lbs of beef last year at $2.50 per lb, still have 75 lbs left.
Our local Raley's had a sale when the drought hit, and I knew that once supplies ran out, beef would shoot up, and apparently it did.
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(CNSNews.com) – Although the overall Consumer Price Index dropped by 0.2 percent in August, the price index for food rose 0.2 percent, with the average price for a pound of ground beef rising to $4.013 per pound--the first time it has ever topped $4 per pound.
In July, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average price for a pound of ground beef had been $3.884 per pound—which was the record price up to that point. From July to August, the average price jumped 12.9 cents, an increase of 3.3 percent in one month.
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Our son went into shell shock when he discovered hamburger was 4.99 a lb.
Quote from: Elfie on November 09, 2014, 04:57:08 PM
Our son went into shell shock when he discovered hamburger was 4.99 a lb.
It's doubled since this time last year. Thank God we have two freezers, I bought 100 lbs and stocked up, we're about two thirds of the way through.
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
It's doubled since this time last year. Thank God we have two freezers, I bought 100 lbs and stocked up, we're about two thirds of the way through.
I cant get him to plug in his freezer. He just says he will come by us, and bring his family....... :huh:
Quote from: Elfie on November 17, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
I cant get him to plug in his freezer. He just says he will come by us, and bring his family....... :huh:
Tell him you followed his lead and unplugged yours as well that it saved you enough on your electric bill, that you just eat out now.
Be sure and tell him BYOB, Bring You Own Beef. :lol:
Buggin In in cities with over 500k Populace is Suicide :popcorn:
Quote from: Solar on November 17, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
Tell him you followed his lead and unplugged yours as well that it saved you enough on your electric bill, that you just eat out now.
Be sure and tell him BYOB, Bring You Own Beef. :lol:
Its gonna seriuosly suck for a lot of people when they get here and we qre gone.
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 17, 2014, 06:45:21 PM
Buggin In in cities with over 500k Populace is Suicide :popcorn:
And that is my drama,,, but there's a plan.... i have to put more stuff up while he is gone. My weekend is planned lolol
Quote from: Elfie on November 17, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Its gonna seriuosly suck for a lot of people when they get here and we qre gone.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:biggrin:
Does Soylent Green come in cans like Spam does?
Quote from: Eyesabide on December 27, 2014, 10:08:46 AM
Does Soylent Green come in cans like Spam does?
Not that I know of. But I am sure Elfie could do some up in canning jars for you.
Ground beef is going for what a good porterhouse sold for 6 years ago. Eggs have more than doubled in the same time, as has pork, poultry, and most fresh vegetables. Meanwhile working class America has more people on the dole than all history. Each time I am forced to increase my food budget, it cuts into my preps budget. And yet all the news outlets are expounding about how well the economy is doing. If you're one of the Bamster's billionaire buddies, maybe.
Quote from: zewazir on December 27, 2014, 11:33:16 AM
Ground beef is going for what a good porterhouse sold for 6 years ago. Eggs have more than doubled in the same time, as has pork, poultry, and most fresh vegetables. Meanwhile working class America has more people on the dole than all history. Each time I am forced to increase my food budget, it cuts into my preps budget. And yet all the news outlets are expounding about how well the economy is doing. If you're one of the Bamster's billionaire buddies, maybe.
Excellent observation. Sure, it's good if you're one of those attached to the govt teat sucking away on food stamps, while the rest of absorb the cost increases associated with Marxist Green energy which exacerbates price increases across the board.
I watch HGTV for the cooking shows and noticed the last few weeks ads for their No Kid Hungry program. I don't want any child to go hungry anywhere but these kind of ads just make me angry. With almost everyone able to get some form of food stamps, the school programs that feed kids not just lunch but breakfast too. How could any child worry about "where their next meal" is coming from.
Is it maybe because the parent doesn't know how to shop, cook, or is it more the welfare crowd figuring the government can take care of it and I will buy all the junk I want? I believe if your child is getting free lunch, breakfast, or both then your food stamps should be adjusted accordingly.
Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 10, 2015, 08:09:24 AM
I watch HGTV for the cooking shows and noticed the last few weeks ads for their No Kid Hungry program. I don't want any child to go hungry anywhere but these kind of ads just make me angry. With almost everyone able to get some form of food stamps, the school programs that feed kids not just lunch but breakfast too. How could any child worry about "where their next meal" is coming from.
Is it maybe because the parent doesn't know how to shop, cook, or is it more the welfare crowd figuring the government can take care of it and I will buy all the junk I want? I believe if your child is getting free lunch, breakfast, or both then your food stamps should be adjusted accordingly.
Toy
Remember ...
(Updated: 02/18/2012)
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The Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, signed into law by President Barack Obama in December 2010, provides federal funds for the after-school dinner program.
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The Congressional Budget Office estimates there will be almost 21 million additional suppers served by 2015 and that number will rise to 29 million by 2020. The added spending would total about $641 million from 2011 to 2020.
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Dinners are funded through the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Child and Adult Care Food Program, which also helps feed people enrolled in child and adult day care programs and emergency shelters. The number of dinners served through the program has grown over the past decade, although the USDA doesn't currently break out how many meals are served through after-school programs specifically.
more @ of all place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/18/more-public-schools-dish-_0_n_1286758.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/18/more-public-schools-dish-_0_n_1286758.html)
And on top of that HGTV wants us, the consumer , to donate to their program. I understand their idea but how many more programs does there need to be?
http://www.nokidhungry.org/ (http://www.nokidhungry.org/)
Hunger prevents kids from reaching their full potential. It's an epidemic that's threatening America's future.
Schools play a vital role in feeding hungry kids.
Hungry children suffer. And 16 million kids in America aren't getting the food they need.
Again I must ask - where are the parents, responsible adults? I managed to feed my 2 kids without help from free breakfast/lunch programs or food stamps.
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 12, 2015, 06:45:36 AMAgain I must ask - where are the parents, responsible adults? I managed to feed my 2 kids without help from free breakfast/lunch programs or food stamps.
Same here. I was on a tight budget too. I had to get very creative when planning meals and food purchases, but no one went without their three meals and they were nutritious.
Nation's second-largest school district plans to expand dinner program.
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The LAUSD serves supper to 75,000 students and is planning to expand the program to about 150,000 over the next two years. School officials expect to generate $16.6 million in revenue, which would go to expanding the program even further.
more @
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/nation-second-largest-school-district-plans-to-expand-dinner-program/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/nation-second-largest-school-district-plans-to-expand-dinner-program/?intcmp=latestnews)
Quote from: Dori on January 12, 2015, 07:20:49 AM
Same here. I was on a tight budget too. I had to get very creative when planning meals and food purchases, but no one went without their three meals and they were nutritious.
I'm curious, Dori. You slapped the 'Enter' key 7 times after you finished your post. Is this some sort of style thing? What are you trying to accomplish by creating all that dead space?
Quote from: TboneAgain on January 17, 2015, 04:34:41 PM
I'm curious, Dori. You slapped the 'Enter' key 7 times after you finished your post. Is this some sort of style thing? What are you trying to accomplish by creating all that dead space?
I didn't notice I did that.
Quote from: walkstall on January 17, 2015, 04:28:26 PM
Nation's second-largest school district plans to expand dinner program.
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The LAUSD serves supper to 75,000 students and is planning to expand the program to about 150,000 over the next two years. School officials expect to generate $16.6 million in revenue, which would go to expanding the program even further.
more @
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/nation-second-largest-school-district-plans-to-expand-dinner-program/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/nation-second-largest-school-district-plans-to-expand-dinner-program/?intcmp=latestnews)
Next thing you know they will have the schools providing a weekend food program..... Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on January 24, 2015, 06:48:44 AM
Next thing you know they will have the schools providing a weekend food program..... Toy
I was thinking more of a weekend sleep over. That way mom and
dad boyfriend can party all weekend.
I just do not get it.
I drive around, (live in very rural farmland area of Ohio) and I still see the cows out there munching the grass, or being herded in to be milked.
I still see the pigs out in the fields, all fattening up for that dinner plate.
And yet the costs of both of these is going through the roof, like suddenly there's some shortage of cows and pigs or something when well clearly there isn't.
Why is this happening? And better yet, why are American's accepting it? Instead of very publicly demanding that farmers be allowed to farm, so we can be fed?
That said, I am thinking of getting some hutch's for some chickens, for well chickens and eggs and some rabbits to raise for my own meat supply.
YES By God I am a omnivore. I as we are created to do, as exemplified by the fact we have canine teeth, do eat meat from time to time.
But as a strategy to have your own meat/protein supply is this a Good idea or bad Idea. (And please don't suggest growing beans, sick to death of being told to eat some damn beans instead of a steak)
Since I can't just go out and shoot a deer or something in the police state of Ohio. Which only allows us to hunt at a certain time of the year, all the while the deer population has gotten so bad, we have deer running through plate glass windows of businesses in downtown Cincinnati.
I'm thinking of "farming" those two for my own food supply. Just wanted to know what anyone else might suggest, besides buying cows and a farm that is. :lol:
Quote from: daidalos on February 05, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
I just do not get it.
I drive around, (live in very rural farmland area of Ohio) and I still see the cows out there munching the grass, or being herded in to be milked.
I still see the pigs out in the fields, all fattening up for that dinner plate.
And yet the costs of both of these is going through the roof, like suddenly there's some shortage of cows and pigs or something when well clearly there isn't.
Why is this happening? And better yet, why are American's accepting it? Instead of very publicly demanding that farmers be allowed to farm, so we can be fed?
That said, I am thinking of getting some hutch's for some chickens, for well chickens and eggs and some rabbits to raise for my own meat supply.
YES By God I am a omnivore. I as we are created to do, as exemplified by the fact we have canine teeth, do eat meat from time to time.
But as a strategy to have your own meat/protein supply is this a Good idea or bad Idea. (And please don't suggest growing beans, sick to death of being told to eat some damn beans instead of a steak)
Since I can't just go out and shoot a deer or something in the police state of Ohio. Which only allows us to hunt at a certain time of the year, all the while the deer population has gotten so bad, we have deer running through plate glass windows of businesses in downtown Cincinnati.
I'm thinking of "farming" those two for my own food supply. Just wanted to know what anyone else might suggest, besides buying cows and a farm that is. :lol:
I am thinking you will be in for a big surprise. It's not cheap being a farmer in this day and age. Remember once you sell it is where the big cost come in. Between the farmer and your table is where the real costs add up. Unless your going to do
every thing yourself.
Remember average Vet bill is $300 for a year. Emergencies calls can average $600-$1000+ depending on the emergency. Welcome to the world of farming.
Quote from: daidalos on February 05, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
I just do not get it.
Supply and demand, what the market will bare, and all that.
I live next to the ocean and the price of fish here is outrageous.
Yeppers the cost of food has gone up. And we can thank, federal government regulations on Over the road truckers, as well as bird flue outbreaks and mad cow outbreaks for it.
Not to mention liberals throwing fits over cows farting in the field, releasing all that horrible dreaded methane gas.
(As if they didn't do that before)....No matter the industry, food is going up, thanks to fed gummamint regulation. Farms are being regulated to death, litterally.
And they're not eating that cost, no instead they pass it on to us, the consumer. This is why every last one of the global warming theory laws passed by the Congress should be repealed immediately.
And why as some candidates propose, any new "rules" these agencies come up with, should have to first be approved by the Congress before they can take effect as laws we the joe American must abide by.
Quote from: daidalos on April 24, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
Yeppers the cost of food has gone up. And we can thank, federal government regulations on Over the road truckers, as well as bird flue outbreaks and mad cow outbreaks for it.
Not to mention liberals throwing fits over cows farting in the field, releasing all that horrible dreaded methane gas.
(As if they didn't do that before)....No matter the industry, food is going up, thanks to fed gummamint regulation. Farms are being regulated to death, litterally.
And they're not eating that cost, no instead they pass it on to us, the consumer. This is why every last one of the global warming theory laws passed by the Congress should be repealed immediately.
And why as some candidates propose, any new "rules" these agencies come up with, should have to first be approved by the Congress before they can take effect as laws we the joe American must abide by.
Something I haven't seen yet... an in-depth, thorough accounting of the real cost of the Renewable Fuel Standard legislation -- ethanol in our gasoline. That government-driven nightmare has nearly wrecked the agricultural commodity markets and raised the price of almost everything we buy at the grocery store.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 24, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
Something I haven't seen yet... an in-depth, thorough accounting of the real cost of the Renewable Fuel Standard legislation -- ethanol in our gasoline. That government-driven nightmare has nearly wrecked the agricultural commodity markets and raised the price of almost everything we buy at the grocery store.
A huge pet peeve of mine
I've read anywhere from 50% increase to 150% and more.
Quote from: Solar on April 25, 2015, 07:38:24 AM
A huge pet peeve of mine
I've read anywhere from 50% increase to 150% and more.
Here's a paradox for ya.... It's so damned stupid it's almost funny.
Sugar growers in the US (there are around 1,200 of them, most quite wealthy) have been subsidized and protected, mostly by tariffs, for over a hundred years. There are sugar growers mostly in Florida (sugar cane) and Minnesota (sugar beets). As a direct result of federal government policies, we pay roughly twice what neighboring countries pay for sugar. The difference is enough that it has literally forced companies like Mars to relocate candy factories (especially those that make stuff like LifeSavers, which are practically 100% sugar) to other countries. (It's true: LifeSavers are no longer made in the US, and haven't been since 1984.)
Another heavy user of cane or beet sugar used to be the soft drink industry. During the 1970s and 1980s, as corn-based sweeteners were developed, all the major brands switched from cane sugar to high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) as a cost-cutting measure. HFCS changes the flavor somewhat (most say for the worse), but it was gobs cheaper than refined sugar 35 years ago -- because of federal government policies that propped up sugar prices.
These days, we're treated to the spectacle of soda-pop makers getting suddenly sentimental about their old formulas, offering "real sugar" variants of their products as part of some sort of nostalgia kick. What has actually happened is that the cost of their sweetener of choice, HFCS, has more than doubled as a direct result of the Renewable Fuel Standard, and the accompanying (and predictable) skyrocketing price of corn.
So we have a battle between one idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial protection of an inflated price for sugar -- pitted against another idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial creation and protection of a market for ethanol made from corn.
The soda-pop companies don't know whether to shit or go blind, and I think it's funny as hell. But that's because I buy almost no sugar or soda-pop, or LifeSavers, for that matter. :tounge:
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 25, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
Here's a paradox for ya.... It's so damned stupid it's almost funny.
Sugar growers in the US (there are around 1,200 of them, most quite wealthy) have been subsidized and protected, mostly by tariffs, for over a hundred years. There are sugar growers mostly in Florida (sugar cane) and Minnesota (sugar beets). As a direct result of federal government policies, we pay roughly twice what neighboring countries pay for sugar. The difference is enough that it has literally forced companies like Mars to relocate candy factories (especially those that make stuff like LifeSavers, which are practically 100% sugar) to other countries. (It's true: LifeSavers are no longer made in the US, and haven't been since 1984.)
Another heavy user of cane or beet sugar used to be the soft drink industry. During the 1970s and 1980s, as corn-based sweeteners were developed, all the major brands switched from cane sugar to high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) as a cost-cutting measure. HFCS changes the flavor somewhat (most say for the worse), but it was gobs cheaper than refined sugar 35 years ago -- because of federal government policies that propped up sugar prices.
These days, we're treated to the spectacle of soda-pop makers getting suddenly sentimental about their old formulas, offering "real sugar" variants of their products as part of some sort of nostalgia kick. What has actually happened is that the cost of their sweetener of choice, HFCS, has more than doubled as a direct result of the Renewable Fuel Standard, and the accompanying (and predictable) skyrocketing price of corn.
So we have a battle between one idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial protection of an inflated price for sugar -- pitted against another idiotic and unconstitutional federal government initiative -- the artificial creation and protection of a market for ethanol made from corn.
The soda-pop companies don't know whether to shit or go blind, and I think it's funny as hell. But that's because I buy almost no sugar or soda-pop, or LifeSavers, for that matter. :tounge:
The common term for all the above is "law of unintended consequences".
Except I am questioning whether the consequences being felt are, in actuality, UN-intended? Or one more aspect of a purposeful drive to eliminate middle class America in favor of the socialist (or is it feudal?) tyranny.