What is this?

Started by kalash, December 12, 2015, 02:27:14 AM

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taxed

I don't trust Snopes.

...but I do know we went to the moon.  It seems silly that anyone thinks we didn't.
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Quote from: taxed on December 12, 2015, 02:43:34 AM
I don't trust Snopes.

...but I do know we went to the moon.  It seems silly that anyone thinks we didn't.

And if we did not, WTF ?

The consequences pro or con are nearly meaningless. So since it is more likely we did, that is what I choose to believe.

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Quote from: SalemCat on December 21, 2015, 08:00:48 PM
And if we did not, WTF ?

The consequences pro or con are nearly meaningless. So since it is more likely we did, that is what I choose to believe.
There is no what if! If it was staged, do you not think the Russians and Chinese wouldn't have exposed it?
Or did we go up there and set up props to trick everyone? :rolleyes:

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Quote from: SalemCat on December 21, 2015, 08:00:48 PM
And if we did not, WTF ?

The consequences pro or con are nearly meaningless. So since it is more likely we did, that is what I choose to believe.

We did go.
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Any decent telescope should be able to see the evidence.

Unless I am totally underestimating the difficulty.

kalash

Quote from: SalemCat on December 23, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Any decent telescope should be able to see the evidence.
Unless I am totally underestimating the difficulty.
People know that government lie, media lie, so... For example : "German ZDF TV Channel falsifies information regarding Donbass" 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXYyX57uzjI
Total fake, but some people believe in it, until they saw the truth. Same with moon landing - I saw couple of documentaries on US TV, that explain very amply how moon landing was fake. Made me think for a minute....  I think source of off this is people who write articles for trash-magazines. Most of the conspiracy theories come from their pages. And if theory sounds interesting enough, more "serious" parts of the media using them.

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Quote from: SalemCat on December 23, 2015, 07:11:54 PM
Any decent telescope should be able to see the evidence.

Unless I am totally underestimating the difficulty.
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There is a reflector for research purposes on the moon.   One of the former telescope operators from the WV facility said they can aim at it.
I guess they can see the American Flag too...
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daidalos

Quote from: taxed on December 12, 2015, 02:43:34 AM
I don't trust Snopes.

...but I do know we went to the moon.  It seems silly that anyone thinks we didn't.
Yeah it does. Given you can buy a telescope at walmart, and if you know where to look see the lander, as well as the buggy they rode around in, still sitting up there on the moon.  :lol:

Now if we didn't take it there. Then who did?

What are we supposed to believe that every telescope on Earth is rigged to somehow show ya that?

Or perhaps we should believe that E.T. who probably does exist someplace in the Universe, has the technology available to them, to be able to travel all the way here, from their own star system, just to land on our moon. But then when they left decided not take that with them so we could all loo up and see it?

It truly is like P.T. Barnum once said. "There's a sucker born every day".
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daidalos

Quote from: Hoofer on December 25, 2015, 05:03:24 PM
There is a reflector for research purposes on the moon.   One of the former telescope operators from the WV facility said they can aim at it.
I guess they can see the American Flag too...
You can if you have a powerful enough telescope. You can buy them at walmart or amazon.com and be able to see the lander base, rovers, and even those reflector's too.

And yes the reflectors do exist, we use them to keep precise measurements of how far the moon has moved away from the Earth.

But something like a simple reflector could have been sent there on a mere probe.

Something as large as the lander base platform, which weighs thousands of pounds, is a different story though. LOL
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Quote from: kalash on December 24, 2015, 02:19:07 AM
Total fake, but some people believe in it, until they saw the truth. Same with moon landing

You're believing the Leonid Brezhnev-era propaganda line.  The USSR knew we were there as it was happening.  So your Space Agency rushed the launches of Venera 5 and Venera 6 so that they arrived at Venus in May, 1969... six weeks before our Moon-landing. 

It was a desperate attempt to divert World attention to yourselves.

If the landing was fake, ask yourself why the USSR never attempted one.  You had the technology and the men.  The answer is you were averse to being the second Nation to visit the Moon. 

Late-For-Lunch

Ockham's Razor (the principle that the explanation requiring the least number of assumptions is usually the correct one). The belief that the landing(s) were real requires only one assumption - that virtually everything which appeared to be true was true. The alternative requires so many assumptions that it becomes an Olympic-class leap into the preposterously unlikely.

Coast-to-Coast radio-show fodder for fact-averse crowd, mostly.
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Quote from: Late-For-Lunch on March 03, 2016, 07:32:08 AM
Ockham's Razor (the principle that the explanation requiring the least number of assumptions is usually the correct one). The belief that the landing(s) were real requires only one assumption - that virtually everything which appeared to be true was true. The alternative requires so many assumptions that it becomes an Olympic-class leap into the preposterously unlikely.

Coast-to-Coast radio-show fodder for fact-averse crowd, mostly.


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hah hah Well said, sieur!! Truth be told I like Coast-to-Coast but I listen selectively. Since George Noory came out of the closet as a full-on AGW skeptic (like so many millions of sane people) I have been fascinated to see how that goes! But the guy who channels Seth or the guy who just wrote a book about the Kubrick- faked moon landing they had on cause station changing. 
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