Our dish arrives tomorrow, but consider this if you are on cable...
And if you are, you definitely want to unplug completely and get a Starlink unit.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1363961518421868548
Quote from: Solar on February 23, 2021, 07:31:24 AM
Our dish arrives tomorrow, but consider this if you are on cable...
And if you are, you definitely want to unplug completely and get a Starlink unit.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1363961518421868548
ASSHOLES !!!
Quote from: Solar on February 23, 2021, 07:31:24 AM
Our dish arrives tomorrow, but consider this if you are on cable...
And if you are, you definitely want to unplug completely and get a Starlink unit.
Not on cable, but in any case, more crap cluttering up our sky and these zillion of satellites will be even closer to Earth. No thanks.
Quote from: Skull on February 23, 2021, 08:32:41 AM
Not on cable, but in any case, more crap cluttering up our sky and these zillion of satellites will be even closer to Earth. No thanks.
Did you read the OP? They are targeting cable.
To clarify - "I am not on cable..." - still hate putting more garbage into our sky!
Quote from: Skull on February 23, 2021, 12:27:14 PM
To clarify - "I am not on cable..." - still hate putting more garbage into our sky!
It's all relative to the vastness of space, and if it means killing off the Marxists monopoly over content and selling your private info. I'll take it!
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Quote from: Skull on February 23, 2021, 12:27:14 PM
To clarify - "I am not on cable..." - still hate putting more garbage into our sky!
It's like peeing in the ocean.
Quote from: Solar on February 23, 2021, 03:46:52 PM
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1364327038946070530
Holy crap. I'm becoming a big Elon Musk fan. I thought I'd never see the day.
Quote from: taxed on February 24, 2021, 07:39:42 AM
Holy crap. I'm becoming a big Elon Musk fan. I thought I'd never see the day.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I know what you mean. I never had any use for someone getting rich off the backs of the taxpayer, (the very reason I quit my Defense Contractor Status) but by God, Elon is putting it to good use. :thumbsup:
OK, got it last night, all ready to go, all you have to do is set in in your yard, plug it in, it's already wired up.
It's cool, because it seeks out the satellite on its own, and my download speeds are around 180 MBPS, upload around 28 MBPS, latency is in the 20s.
All in all, it takes about 20 minutes to log on for the first time, and you're ready to go.
In other words, this little monster screams!! :thumbsup:
The downside? Needs more satellites, I'm up for 20 minutes, and off for 2 as it waits for the next satellite, sometimes it holds the connection for the next one but it really doesn't matter because when it's up, you can load a bunch of movies, download games, open all kinds of sites, all at the same time and it doesn't blink, until the satellite is out of reach. :biggrin:
Just did a speed check as the satellite is almost out of range...
You can check your own here.
https://www.speedtest.net
Result ID 10995577841
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
180.1
UPLOAD Mbps
21.3
OK, 2 minutes later as the satellite went out of range, it didn't finish the upload speed.
Result ID 10995582795
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
105.38
UPLOAD Mbps
If you still have your old satellite, how about doing the same speed tests with it for comparison... :thumbup:
Quote from: Solar on February 25, 2021, 05:26:27 PM
OK, got it last night, all ready to go, all you have to do is set in in your yard, plug it in, it's already wired up.
It's cool, because it seeks out the satellite on its own, and my download speeds are around 180 MBPS, upload around 28 MBPS, latency is in the 20s.
All in all, it takes about 20 minutes to log on for the first time, and you're ready to go.
In other words, this little monster screams!! :thumbsup:
The downside? Needs more satellites, I'm up for 20 minutes, and off for 2 as it waits for the next satellite, sometimes it holds the connection for the next one but it really doesn't matter because when it's up, you can load a bunch of movies, download games, open all kinds of sites, all at the same time and it doesn't blink, until the satellite is out of reach. :biggrin:
Just did a speed check as the satellite is almost out of range...
You can check your own here.
https://www.speedtest.net
Result ID 10995577841
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
180.1
UPLOAD Mbps
21.3
OK, 2 minutes later as the satellite went out of range, it didn't finish the upload speed.
Result ID 10995582795
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
105.38
UPLOAD Mbps
Is the down time between satellites 2 min. for you?
Also is the down time depending on the area your live in?
Can you and ST be on at the same time with no problems?
Where was that link about the Dems wanting to lay more fiber? I can't find it but I know I saw it...
Quote from: VVet69 on February 25, 2021, 06:07:19 PM
If you still have your old satellite, how about doing the same speed tests with it for comparison... :thumbup:
My Viasat runs super fast, about 60 MBPS, but latency is a full second, usually longer, upload about 2 MBPS.
I like Viasat, 100 gigs a month, but you always have to wait for a connection and if the latency is too delayed, you have to keep refreshing the page.
Before satellite, all I had was dialup, then I got Verizon, but it had a bandwidth limit of 10 gigs, which we always went over and it was costly.
Starlink has no restrictions, you can use a terabyte of data if you like.
But the real upside will be the cost savings, no Viasat bill, dumping Dish, and when latency improves, I'll dump my landline, and stick it to AT&T. :biggrin:
Quote from: taxed on February 25, 2021, 06:59:25 PM
Where was that link about the Dems wanting to lay more fiber? I can't find it but I know I saw it...
Is this it?
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$100 billion "universal fiber" plan proposed by Democrats in Congress
Ambitious legislation would deploy 100Mbps symmetrical broadband throughout US.
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House Democrats yesterday unveiled a $100 billion broadband plan that's gaining quick support from consumer advocates.
"The House has a universal fiber broadband plan we should get behind," Electronic Frontier Foundation Senior Legislative Counsel Ernesto Falcon wrote in a blog post. House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) announced the Accessible, Affordable Internet for All Act, saying it has more than 30 co-sponsors and "invests $100 billion to build high-speed broadband infrastructure in unserved and underserved communities and ensure that the resulting Internet service is affordable." The bill text is available here.
In addition to federal funding for broadband networks with speeds of at least 100Mbps downstream and upstream, the bill would eliminate state laws that prevent the growth of municipal broadband. There are currently 19 states with such laws. The Clyburn legislation targets those states with this provision:
No State statute, regulation, or other State legal requirement may prohibit or have the effect of prohibiting any public provider, public-private partnership provider, or cooperatively organized provider from providing, to any person or any public or private entity, advanced telecommunications capability or any service that utilizes the advanced telecommunications capability provided by such provider.
The bill also has a Dig Once requirement that says fiber or fiber conduit must be installed "as part of any covered highway construction project" in states that receive federal highway funding. Similar Dig Once mandates have been proposed repeatedly over the years and gotten close to becoming US law, but never quite made it past the finish line.
The US is behind on fiber
"America is behind on its transition to a 21st-century, fiber-connected Internet with no plan for how to fix the problem," Falcon wrote. But Clyburn's bill "would begin a national transition of everyone's Internet connection into multi-gigabit capable fiber optics... and is likely heading towards a vote on the House floor as part of the overall COVID-19 recovery effort. After that its future remains in the hands of the Senate."
The Democrats' bill is highly unlikely to become law in its current form because Republicans control the Senate and White House. FCC Chairman Ajit Pai this week endorsed a Republican bill that includes $6 billion for broadband. Another Republican plan announced last week didn't have a dollar figure attached to it but promises funding and "regulatory relief" for telecom companies.
The Democrats' bill "is the right legislation at the right time as the COVID-19 pandemic has laid bare the need for every American to have robust, high-speed broadband Internet access at home," according to Gigi Sohn, a former Obama-era FCC official and current distinguished fellow at the Georgetown Law Institute for Technology & Policy.
Sohn, who was a counselor to then-FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler from 2013 to 2016, wrote that the bill "addresses the twin problems of broadband affordability and lack of network infrastructure, recognizing that the digital divide is both an urban and a rural problem. And it would promote competition in the broadband market by preferencing open-access networks and repealing anticompetitive state laws that prohibit communities from building their own broadband networks."
One key aspect of the bill is that it requires federally funded ISPs to provide low latency and speeds of at least 100Mbps for both downloads and uploads. The bill also defines "unserved" areas as those lacking options with download and upload speeds of 25Mbps. By contrast, the FCC's current, five-year-old broadband standard is 25Mbps downstream but only 3Mbps upstream. "These higher metrics [for both downloads and uploads] are what make this a fiber infrastructure bill as older legacy networks such as DSL cannot effectively deliver these speeds," Falcon wrote.
Funded projects must also provide broadband at prices that are "comparable" to or lower than what's available in areas that already have broadband access, the bill says.
What else is in the bill
As Clyburn's announcement explained, the Democrats' bill includes these provisions:
$80 billion to deploy high-speed broadband infrastructure nationwide
$5 billion for low-interest financing of broadband deployment through a new secured loan program
Ensur[ing] Internet affordability by requiring an affordable option for Internet service plans offered on the newly-built infrastructure; providing a $50 monthly discount on plans for low-income consumers; and directing the FCC to collect and publicize data on prices charged for broadband service throughout the country
$1 billion to establish grant programs for states to close gaps in broadband adoption, as well as digital inclusion projects for organizations and local communities to implement
$5 billion to enable students without Internet at home to participate in remote learning
Funding for Wi-Fi on school buses so students can stay connected, especially in rural areas where longer bus rides are common.
The $80 billion would be appropriated to the FCC "for fiscal year 2021, to remain available until expended," the bill says. The FCC would be required to distribute the money through a competitive bidding process, similar to how its current programs work. But the commission would have to award 75 percent of the funding within 18 months "to expand access to broadband service in unserved areas and areas with low-tier service." Low-tier is defined as less than 100Mbps downloads or uploads. The FCC's biggest broadband-funding plan right now is for $20.4 billion over 10 years, or about $2 billion a year.
Falcon argues that a plan like Clyburn's is needed for the US to deploy fiber throughout the country within a few years instead of decades. "Such an ambitious program would have the United States match China's efforts to build universal fiber with the US completing its transition just a few short years after China," Falcon wrote. "Without this law, the transition would take decades."
Falcon also praised the legislation for "emphasiz[ing] open-access fiber networks that would replicate the success in Utah, where people are getting a dozen options for low priced gigabit and ten-gigabit services, including in rural markets."
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/100-billion-universal-fiber-plan-proposed-by-democrats-in-congress/
Quote from: Skull on February 23, 2021, 12:27:14 PM
To clarify - "I am not on cable..." - still hate putting more garbage into our sky!
I agree however, better us than the democrats though...err I mean Chinese...
Quote from: Solar on February 25, 2021, 05:26:27 PM
OK, got it last night, all ready to go, all you have to do is set in in your yard, plug it in, it's already wired up.
It's cool, because it seeks out the satellite on its own, and my download speeds are around 180 MBPS, upload around 28 MBPS, latency is in the 20s.
All in all, it takes about 20 minutes to log on for the first time, and you're ready to go.
In other words, this little monster screams!! :thumbsup:
The downside? Needs more satellites, I'm up for 20 minutes, and off for 2 as it waits for the next satellite, sometimes it holds the connection for the next one but it really doesn't matter because when it's up, you can load a bunch of movies, download games, open all kinds of sites, all at the same time and it doesn't blink, until the satellite is out of reach. :biggrin:
Just did a speed check as the satellite is almost out of range...
You can check your own here.
https://www.speedtest.net
Result ID 10995577841
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
180.1
UPLOAD Mbps
21.3
OK, 2 minutes later as the satellite went out of range, it didn't finish the upload speed.
Result ID 10995582795
PING ms
27
DOWNLOAD Mbps
105.38
UPLOAD Mbps
At the rate they are putting new satellites in the air, this won';t be a problem for long, but any estimate?
Quote from: Possum on February 26, 2021, 03:01:36 AM
At the rate they are putting new satellites in the air, this won';t be a problem for long, but any estimate?
I'm hearing by summer. Latency will improve and connections are supposed to be solid, though still fast and slower, like that of a roller coaster, but will stay connected.
What the dims want, and what will actually happen. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The left wants to line their crony supporters bank accounts with our money, giving them a death grip on Free Speech, while Elon is simply making the lefts mode of restricting the First Amendment look like a Govt sanctioned snail race that no one will care to attend.
Democrats Send Insane Letter to Cable Carriers and Big Tech, Demanding a Ban on Conservative Media
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/02/23/democrats-send-insane-letter-to-cable-carriers-demanding-a-ban-on-conservative-tv-networks-n2585181
Question for a friend....
How does the satellite connect to the tv? Do you have to power it? Coax? Elon Magic?
We have a Smart TV - wireless connection to Starlink. (Just like our computers.) Toy
Quote from: Owebo on February 27, 2021, 07:14:56 AM
Question for a friend....
How does the satellite connect to the tv? Do you have to power it? Coax? Elon Magic?
The router does have an secondary output connection for newer TV's, like a smart TV, which are cheaper that a computer monitor. That's what I use for my monitor, a 48" Smart TV, cost around $200.0+.
Thing is, the TV remote will work, but the cursor is a bitch to use, so we're buying another computer just to search out videos and save them on the hard drive, since we don't want to stream, this way we have a mouse and keyboard to work with instead of a stupid single remote.
Quote from: Solar on February 25, 2021, 07:38:49 PM
Is this it?
UNIVERSAL BROADBAND —
$100 billion "universal fiber" plan proposed by Democrats in Congress
Ambitious legislation would deploy 100Mbps symmetrical broadband throughout US.
JON BRODKIN - JUN 25, 2020 6:00 PM UTC
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/100-billion-universal-fiber-plan-proposed-by-democrats-in-congress/
This is a huge wet kiss to VSZ, AT&T & Lumen (formerly CTL, formerly Level3).
They're imbedded so deep into the Federal government, and have positioned themselves as "too important to fail", for the sake of national security - when they have financial troubles, expect the taxpayer to bail them out.
For the life of me, I don't understand why people still think "the internet is owned by the government" or "the internet is FREE & nobody owns it". Fact is, the entire backbone is owned by one of these three and smaller companies, like Comcast, some ISPs, etc. Just because there can be several "networks" built over the same bundle of fibers, doesn't imply ownership of that fiber. Someone paid big money to plow or hang that fiber, and trust me, they've not given away an inch of it. The gear hanging off the end of that fiber is VERY expensive, the test sets cost as much as a new car!
The dumbest thing a city, municipality can do, maybe the most corrupt, is to build it's own fiber optic network to "compete" or "lower costs" - they go broke, and wind up giving away all that fiber infrastructure to someone who knows how to run a business. Virginia has several examples.
$100 Billion is a drop in the bucket. Just a wet kiss, or a bailout. IMO, Starlink isn't going to be broadbanded enough to seriously compete with Fiber, not when we can deliver 400Gbit waves, and 64 waves of that in parallel. This stuff is so fast, it's optically split/combined with prisms, before it hits anything electronic. But, for the rural people, like ME, who deliver service to everyone but myself... I'm gonna sign up.
a. It's faster, up and down
b. I already KNOW the company I work for, LOVES collecting data
c. I expect to be able to use it in a mobile situation - and potentially ditch the cell phone too!
d. 20ms latency is as fast as SIP trunking, VOIP and other voice-over-internet service, there won't be a difference.
e. 2 land lines + internet = $130 per month, company cell phone loaded with spy-ware... I think I can come up with a better, cheaper plan.
Quote from: Hoofer on February 28, 2021, 07:41:01 AM
This is a huge wet kiss to VSZ, AT&T & Lumen (formerly CTL, formerly Level3).
They're imbedded so deep into the Federal government, and have positioned themselves as "too important to fail", for the sake of national security - when they have financial troubles, expect the taxpayer to bail them out.
For the life of me, I don't understand why people still think "the internet is owned by the government" or "the internet is FREE & nobody owns it". Fact is, the entire backbone is owned by one of these three and smaller companies, like Comcast, some ISPs, etc. Just because there can be several "networks" built over the same bundle of fibers, doesn't imply ownership of that fiber. Someone paid big money to plow or hang that fiber, and trust me, they've not given away an inch of it. The gear hanging off the end of that fiber is VERY expensive, the test sets cost as much as a new car!
The dumbest thing a city, municipality can do, maybe the most corrupt, is to build it's own fiber optic network to "compete" or "lower costs" - they go broke, and wind up giving away all that fiber infrastructure to someone who knows how to run a business. Virginia has several examples.
$100 Billion is a drop in the bucket. Just a wet kiss, or a bailout. IMO, Starlink isn't going to be broadbanded enough to seriously compete with Fiber, not when we can deliver 400Gbit waves, and 64 waves of that in parallel. This stuff is so fast, it's optically split/combined with prisms, before it hits anything electronic. But, for the rural people, like ME, who deliver service to everyone but myself... I'm gonna sign up.
a. It's faster, up and down
b. I already KNOW the company I work for, LOVES collecting data
c. I expect to be able to use it in a mobile situation - and potentially ditch the cell phone too!
d. 20ms latency is as fast as SIP trunking, VOIP and other voice-over-internet service, there won't be a difference.
e. 2 land lines + internet = $130 per month, company cell phone loaded with spy-ware... I think I can come up with a better, cheaper plan.
That's the thing, Starlink bypasses all of that.
Here in SC we can get Fiber to the home in association with the Rural Electric Cooperatives. Our REC rolled this out a couple of years ago. I get 1Gbs up and down for $90 per month (prior to that it was AT&T DSL , 3-6Mb down, and 500kb -1 Mb up on a good day). You can get 500Mb and 100Mb fiber plans for a bit less. The company that manages the network, Carolina Connect, has no known association with *any* of the big ISP or Content Providers. However, at some point in time they have to connect to an Internet backbone owned one of the major ISP but I don't know which one... Starlink also has to connect to an Internet Backbone provider as well.
Quote from: VVet69 on February 28, 2021, 10:44:12 AM
Here in SC we can get Fiber to the home in association with the Rural Electric Cooperatives. Our REC rolled this out a couple of years ago. I get 1Gbs up and down for $90 per month (prior to that it was AT&T DSL , 3-6Mb down, and 500kb -1 Mb up on a good day). You can get 500Mb and 100Mb fiber plans for a bit less. The company that manages the network, Carolina Connect, has no known association with *any* of the big ISP or Content Providers. However, at some point in time they have to connect to an Internet backbone owned one of the major ISP but I don't know which one... Starlink also has to connect to an Internet Backbone provider as well.
Nope. Anyway, not any of the big providers, Hell, I haven't seen anything whatsoever in this case, it may be his own.
I think this article explains it better than I did (or tried to :confused:)
https://www.networkworld.com/article/3532318/what-is-the-internet-backbone-and-how-it-works.html (https://www.networkworld.com/article/3532318/what-is-the-internet-backbone-and-how-it-works.html)
However it is STILL 'see ya later' to any of the big ISP/Content providers :thumbup:
Quote from: VVet69 on February 28, 2021, 10:44:12 AM
Here in SC we can get Fiber to the home in association with the Rural Electric Cooperatives. Our REC rolled this out a couple of years ago. I get 1Gbs up and down for $90 per month (prior to that it was AT&T DSL , 3-6Mb down, and 500kb -1 Mb up on a good day). You can get 500Mb and 100Mb fiber plans for a bit less. The company that manages the network, Carolina Connect, has no known association with *any* of the big ISP or Content Providers. However, at some point in time they have to connect to an Internet backbone owned one of the major ISP but I don't know which one... Starlink also has to connect to an Internet Backbone provider as well.
True, but that's OK because nobody is going to shut down the backbone if some of us are going to conservative sites... also, I'd think Starlink will have its own internet. Instead of now where you go to http://, maybe we'll go to sites like starlink://....
Lots of possibilities...
Quote from: taxed on February 28, 2021, 04:59:47 PM
True, but that's OK because nobody is going to shut down the backbone if some of us are going to conservative sites... also, I'd think Starlink will have its own internet. Instead of now where you go to http://, maybe we'll go to sites like starlink://....
Lots of possibilities...
Yep, I have a feeling Musk is way ahead of the big IP bandits. :thumbsup:
UNLESS.... Musk is going to create an entirely new IP network, backward compatible with what we got, and new to allow station to station coms completely separate from the existing IP backbone....
How's it gonna work when AT&T, Verizon & Lumen block his IP addresses? I hope he's built in a system for direct earth-sat-earth, end user - direct coms to the earth based server, type of system. If that happens, the bandwidth potential would be tremendous, and I can only imagine how desperate the Marxists, Socialists & Liberals would be to REGULATE his new network.
Just imagine NSA, CIA going crazy over communications they're locked out of.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 06, 2021, 07:52:56 AM
UNLESS.... Musk is going to create an entirely new IP network, backward compatible with what we got, and new to allow station to station coms completely separate from the existing IP backbone....
How's it gonna work when AT&T, Verizon & Lumen block his IP addresses? I hope he's built in a system for direct earth-sat-earth, end user - direct coms to the earth based server, type of system. If that happens, the bandwidth potential would be tremendous, and I can only imagine how desperate the Marxists, Socialists & Liberals would be to REGULATE his new network.
Just imagine NSA, CIA going crazy over communications they're locked out of.
I've no doubt that's in the works. The left can't do anything, he has FCC approval, so this buys him plenty of time, besides, it's global, not just US based.
Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2021, 07:56:16 AM
I've no doubt that's in the works. The left can't do anything, he has FCC approval, so this buys him plenty of time, besides, it's global, not just US based.
China is on the 3rd generation GPS system, no global, and probably collecting *everything* on every person & movement, whether they're using that system or not.
"In 2015, China launched the third generation BeiDou system (BeiDou-3) for global coverage. The first BDS-3 satellite was launched on 30 March 2015.[6] On 27 December 2018, BeiDou Navigation Satellite System started providing global services.[7][8] The 35th and the final satellite of BDS-3 was launched into orbit on 23 June 2020.[9] It was said in 2016 that BeiDou-3 will reach millimeter-level accuracy (with post-processing).[10]"
Millimeter-level accuracy.... My understanding, they're 2-way communications, unlike ours - but still compatible with our system. That with the ultra-high resolution, continual scanning of the earth - there is no privacy anymore.
Musk could be a huge interrupter to all the Deep Surveillance being done on us.
Update:
Starlink was unaffected by snow, or the thunder cells passing overhead. Had a foot at 1:00 AM and the dish was clear, it actually melted the snow as it fell.
Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
Update:
Starlink was unaffected by snow, or the thunder cells passing overhead. Had a foot at 1:00 AM and the dish was clear, it actually melted the snow as it fell.
:thumbup: That's good to know. We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.
I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday. I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.
Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
:thumbup: That's good to know. We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.
I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday. I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
You're going to love it! :thumbup:
Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
:thumbup: That's good to know. We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.
I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday. I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.
I just tried to stream a movie, not bad, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 03:24:06 PM
I just tried to stream a movie, not bad, but I wouldn't recommend it.
:thumbup:
Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 03:25:31 PM
:thumbup:
I should say "YET", they say by mid summer we should have enough satellites up to make it feasible.
Quote from: Woofr on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
:thumbup: That's good to know. We haven't had much snow this year, but usually I have to clean the Dish off after a good storm.
I'm expecting my Starlink equipment Friday. I ordered on 9 Feb, so it took a month from ordering to shipping.
If you get a lot of snow like I do you might want to put heaters on your dishes. A heater keeps my TV realatively clear. The heating elelements stick on and are powered with a low voltage transformer and a thermostatic switch that is part of the heating element. It works well unless it snows so much the dish is completely buried as happened last winter.
Quote from: dickfoster on March 10, 2021, 04:22:02 PM
If you get a lot of snow like I do you might want to put heaters on your dishes. A heater keeps my TV realatively clear. The heating elelements stick on and are powered with a low voltage transformer and a thermostatic switch that is part of the heating element. It works well unless it snows so much the dish is completely buried as happened last winter.
The Starlink dish is a heater, the over 1000 mini antennas generate heat on their own. Also it can cut right through a couple inches of snow as if it's not even there.
Quote from: Solar on March 10, 2021, 05:35:44 PM
The Starlink dish is a heater, the over 1000 mini antennas generate heat on their own. Also it can cut right through a couple inches of snow as if it's not even there.
Trouble is Starlink isn't quite rolled out or avaliable yet.
Quote from: dickfoster on March 11, 2021, 08:32:26 AM
Trouble is Starlink isn't quite rolled out or avaliable yet.
Works great for me. As I said earlier, it's not good for streaming videos quite yet, but depending on the video source, I can load a full 20 minute video in less than 5 seconds.
Streaming sucks because the source limits the amount you're allowed to buffer, otherwise I could load the entire thing in no time.
Quote from: Solar on March 11, 2021, 09:03:27 AM
Works great for me. As I said earlier, it's not good for streaming videos quite yet, but depending on the video source, I can load a full 20 minute video in less than 5 seconds.
Streaming sucks because the source limits the amount you're allowed to buffer, otherwise I could load the entire thing in no time.
Please run a speed test, screen shot it, so we can see it. a couple of them would be somewhat of an example.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 17, 2021, 10:34:00 AM
Please run a speed test, screen shot it, so we can see it. a couple of them would be somewhat of an example.
That would entail setting up a photo hosting account. You'll just have to take my word for it. I posted the numbers earlier, and it does vary from 40 MBS to 200 plus.
I'm usually running around 150.
Quote from: Solar on March 17, 2021, 11:40:43 AM
That would entail setting up a photo hosting account. You'll just have to take my word for it. I posted the numbers earlier, and it does vary from 40 MBS to 200 plus.
I'm usually running around 150.
What kind of upload speed and latency?
Just did one at work.... 33Mbps up, but Ping is 74ms... ugh!
Quote from: Hoofer on March 17, 2021, 11:58:42 AM
What kind of upload speed and latency?
Just did one at work.... 33Mbps up, but Ping is 74ms... ugh!
Latency is always in the low 30s, usually 32ms. That's one of the reasons we dropped Viasat, the download speed was fair, but a full second of latency is enough to lose the connection (timed out), drove us nuts.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 17, 2021, 10:34:00 AM
Please run a speed test, screen shot it, so we can see it. a couple of them would be somewhat of an example.
Use this to test your speed :https://www.speedtest.net/ (https://www.speedtest.net/)
Quote from: VVet69 on March 17, 2021, 04:31:40 PM
Use this to test your speed :https://www.speedtest.net/ (https://www.speedtest.net/)
I got my Starlink last Friday. It took me about an hour to install as I mounted it to the roof of the house. It sets itself up finding the optimum position to pick up the satellites. Pretty cool. It takes under 30 minutes for it to find that position. The "DSL" I had before ran at approx. 1.2Mbps down and .76 up with ping at 55ms. I'm happy I invested.
(https://i.ibb.co/ngNtJL0/speedtest.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngNtJL0)
Quote from: Woofr on March 18, 2021, 03:10:42 PM
I got my Starlink last Friday. It took me about an hour to install as I mounted it to the roof of the house. It sets itself up finding the optimum position to pick up the satellites. Pretty cool. It takes under 30 minutes for it to find that position. The "DSL" I had before ran at approx. 1.2Mbps down and .76 up with ping at 55ms. I'm happy I invested.
(https://i.ibb.co/ngNtJL0/speedtest.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngNtJL0)
And they say that just the start. :thumbsup:
OK, that's better... just ran speedtest.net from home.
Download 7.51
Upload 0.68
Ping 26ms (pretty good, until you realize it had not left the State of Virginia)
Also using ExpressVPN - which actually gives me faster DL/UP speeds & lower latency.
(funny how, if your data is encrypted, the local ISP probably figures, "the heck with him, let him go"
Thanks for the update, I think we're going to order, even though it won't be till late 2021.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 18, 2021, 03:49:05 PM
OK, that's better... just ran speedtest.net from home.
Download 7.51
Upload 0.68
Ping 26ms (pretty good, until you realize it had not left the State of Virginia)
Also using ExpressVPN - which actually gives me faster DL/UP speeds & lower latency.
(funny how, if your data is encrypted, the local ISP probably figures, "the heck with him, let him go"
Thanks for the update, I think we're going to order, even though it won't be till late 2021.
You'll be just in time for the doubling of satellites to come this summer. With that many, I should never see any down time at all.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55775977
"A new world record has been set for the number of satellites sent to space on a single rocket.
The 143 payloads, of all shapes and sizes, rode to orbit on a SpaceX Falcon rocket that launched out of Florida.
The number beats the previous record of 104 satellites carried aloft by an Indian vehicle in 2017.
It's further evidence of the major structural changes taking place in space activity that are allowing many more actors to get involved.
This shift is the result of a revolution in robust, miniaturised, low-cost components - many taken direct from consumer electronics such as smartphones - that mean pretty much anyone can now build a capable satellite in a very small package."
Quote from: Hoofer on April 23, 2021, 05:00:04 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55775977
"A new world record has been set for the number of satellites sent to space on a single rocket.
The 143 payloads, of all shapes and sizes, rode to orbit on a SpaceX Falcon rocket that launched out of Florida.
The number beats the previous record of 104 satellites carried aloft by an Indian vehicle in 2017.
It's further evidence of the major structural changes taking place in space activity that are allowing many more actors to get involved.
This shift is the result of a revolution in robust, miniaturised, low-cost components - many taken direct from consumer electronics such as smartphones - that mean pretty much anyone can now build a capable satellite in a very small package."
There's already a lot of junk in orbit. Pretty soon there won't be any more space in our space.
Quote from: dickfoster on April 24, 2021, 10:34:07 AM
There's already a lot of junk in orbit. Pretty soon there won't be any more space in our space.
Why does Bill Gates want to put pixie dust up there, when we can let Elon Musk make a blanket of mini-transponders do the same thing - and get something back for the effort (besides lung cancer)?