And you guess it the liberals are not having this finding. They still believe that man has the right to go to a gynecologist and see if his hairy gonads are pregnant or something.
Scientist Discovers Abnormal Brain Function in Transgender Individuals, Liberals Rush to Suppress Findings
A scientific researcher has discovered differences in brain function within transgender individuals, which may explain their behavioral and mental problems.
Published in the journal eNeuro, researcher Stephen Gliske presented evidence that brain networks associated with how a person interprets the ownership of their body parts, that determines gender-typical actions, and manages chronic distress are different within individuals who suffer from gender dysphoria.
READ MORE HERE.....
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/scientist-discovers-abnormal-brain-function-in-transgender-individuals-liberals-rush-to-suppress-findings/
There are questions regarding the rigor of Stephen Gliske's research and method. The counter article was written by Troy A. Roepke, Associate Professor, Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
Regardless, the causation of gender dysphoria is irrelevant. Transgendered people are part of our society whether they are the office manager in your condo building, the forman on the factory floor or a Navy SEAL. Like you, they contribute to the community.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 24, 2020, 04:40:25 PM
There are questions regarding the rigor of Stephen Gliske's research and method. The counter article was written by Troy A. Roepke, Associate Professor, Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
Regardless, the causation of gender dysphoria is irrelevant. Transgendered people are part of our society whether they are the office manager in your condo building, the forman on the factory floor or a Navy SEAL. Like you, they contribute to the community.
They contribute... until they commit suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUJgbWrM64
Quote from: taxed on April 24, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
They contribute... until they commit suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUJgbWrM64
It doesn't take a genius to determine why. When your parents and siblings, spouse and children attack you, you have a difficult challenge to carry on.
My own view is that Gliske may be right. Very few people decide to get dressed up to go out on a Saturday night to get the crap beat out of them.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 24, 2020, 05:17:53 PM
It doesn't take a genius to determine why. When your parents and siblings, spouse and children attack you, you have a difficult challenge to carry on.
My own view is that Gliske may be right. Very few people decide to get dressed up to go out on a Saturday night to get the crap beat out of them.
Mental disorder, it is, what it is, it's not normal.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 24, 2020, 05:17:53 PM
It doesn't take a genius to determine why. When your parents and siblings, spouse and children attack you, you have a difficult challenge to carry on.
My own view is that Gliske may be right. Very few people decide to get dressed up to go out on a Saturday night to get the crap beat out of them.
Incorrect. It's the mental disorder that makes you want to cut off your genitals.
Quote from: taxed on April 24, 2020, 06:14:14 PM
Incorrect. It's the mental disorder that makes you want to cut off your genitals.
It would appear Tory has issues of his/her/its own
Quote from: Solar on April 24, 2020, 06:21:17 PM
It would appear Tory has issues of his/her/its own
It would appear you don't know what you are talking about. You really should think and do your research before speaking.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 24, 2020, 07:45:12 PM
It would appear you don't know what you are talking about. You really should think and do your research before speaking.
Anyone that joins specifically to comment, and or defend mental instability as a way of life, has issues all their own.
We all have issues, idiosyncrasies even physical abnormalities, that's life. But when one purposely flaunts their mental issues in the face of accepted culture, deserves public humiliation.
You freakin twit!
Get over yourself, you are nothing special regardless what the left claims, you have a problem and we do not have to accept it, recognize it, let alone even talk about it, so what you do in your own home is none of my business.
But when you go public and try and force your mental issues on others, we're going to have problems!
Liberalism is the key factor. It links all of the medical problems.
"Don't you find it odd that plastic surgery can cure a mental disorder?"
Transamerica
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 09:52:53 AM
"Don't you find it odd that plastic surgery can cure a mental disorder?"
Transamerica
Oh Shut The Fuck Up!
Castration is not plastic surgery!!! No one on this forum promotes mental disorders as main stream, they are not to be used as tools of the left, these people need help, not abuse!
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 09:52:53 AM
"Don't you find it odd that plastic surgery can cure a mental disorder?"
Transamerica
We find it disgusting how adults are deciding what children are supposed to be. They are not allowed to enjoy growing up. They are groomed to be something they are not. They have not made that decision/mistake on their own.
We also find in sad that picking whatever alphabet letter is the only thing that defines one's self, and not the content of their character. If one's sexuality is the best thing used to describe one's self, it doesn't sound like they are worth a damn.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 26, 2020, 11:14:18 AM
We find it disgusting how adults are deciding what children are supposed to be. They are not allowed to enjoy growing up. They are groomed to be something they are not. They have not made that decision/mistake on their own.
We also find in sad that picking whatever alphabet letter is the only thing that defines one's self, and not the content of their character. If one's sexuality is the best thing used to describe one's self, it doesn't sound like they are worth a damn.
Absolutely agree!!!
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Oh Shut The Fuck Up!
Castration is not plastic surgery!!! No one on this forum promotes mental disorders as main stream, they are not to be used as tools of the left, these people need help, not abuse!
What about female to male gender reassignment surgery? That doesn't involve castration.
It is no more a mental disorder than being left handed. Also, it spans the political spectrum. It is not leftist or conservative. It encompasses a small minority of people in all walks of life, including a police Inspector and a U.S. Navy Seal.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
What about female to male gender reassignment surgery? That doesn't involve castration.
Why does gender dysphoria cause you so much distress? It is no more a mental disorder than being left handed. Also, it spans the political spectrum. It is not leftist or conservative. It encompasses a small minority of people in all walks of life, including a police Inspector and a U.S. Navy Seal.
You can't take two wheels of a car and call it a motorcycle. You still have the basic framework of a car, just like the X & Y chromosome, nothing has changed but the lie you propose to the world, and no one likes being lied to.
Get over yourself, no one gives a fuck what you do to yourself, just don't expect the world to accept your delusions as real.
And yes, this is a Marxist Left issue, that's why you have a Seal to tout, because the left is all about breaking down cultural norms and destroying our military institutions. Like I said, no one cares that you want to disfigure yourself, that's your business, but the fact that sex is the center of your universe say's far more about your mental instability than anything else.
Seek help, seriously, most Normal people aren't obsessed with their sexual orientation and if they are, there is more than likely a mental quotient involved. Buy a new car, take a cruise, help the homeless, quit focusing on such a trivial issue in life. Someone really fucked you up early on, get help and fix it, because the truth is, and you know it, a sex change won't fix the underlying problem.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2020, 02:20:12 PM
You can't take two wheels of a car and call it a motorcycle. You still have the basic framework of a car, just like the X & Y chromosome, nothing has changed but the lie you propose to the world, and no one likes being lied to.
Get over yourself, no one gives a fuck what you do to yourself, just don't expect the world to accept your delusions as real.
And yes, this is a Marxist Left issue, that's why you have a Seal to tout, because the left is all about breaking down cultural norms and destroying our military institutions. Like I said, no one cares that you want to disfigure yourself, that's your business, but the fact that sex is the center of your universe say's far more about your mental instability than anything else.
Seek help, seriously, most Normal people aren't obsessed with their sexual orientation and if they are, there is more than likely a mental quotient involved. Buy a new car, take a cruise, help the homeless, quit focusing on such a trivial issue in life. Someone really fucked you up early on, get help and fix it, because the truth is, and you know it, a sex change won't fix the underlying problem.
You appear to have misunderstood me. I am not transgendered. I was assigned to be my department's liason with the LGBTQA centre on campus for several years. My assignment was part of our community based policing policy. During this time, I got to know several transgendered people from both genders so I have some familiarity with the subject. I can assure you, they were not all leftists. Most were, but not all.
According to the OP, Gliske says transgendered people are not "fucked" up early in life. They were born that way.Gender re-assignment surgery is not a panacea, but it does make a significant difference in the subject's quality of life and if you were working beside him/her, you wouldn't know the difference. One Prof I met spent US$120,000 on her transition. She is still teaching Business Administration with no sign of mental disturbance.
If this person is a college professor, how did that conversation come up? Did you ask, or was there telling? How is that important in a business class? Is it that important for anybody to know someone's personal elective surgery cost? It's not like you guys were friends. It makes me question the ethics of this so-called business instructor. Money is green, and not rainbow colored.
Sounds like another lefty professor interjecting unrelated things at a university. One's "sexuality" is personal, and is nobody's business. Don't complain about "staying out of bedrooms" when you guys keep inviting people.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 03:05:11 PM
You appear to have misunderstood me. I am not transgendered. I was assigned to be my department's liason with the LGBTQA centre on campus for several years. My assignment was part of our community based policing policy. During this time, I got to know several transgendered people from both genders so I have some familiarity with the subject. I can assure you, they were not all leftists. Most were, but not all.
According to the OP, Gliske says transgendered people are not "fucked" up early in life. They were born that way.Gender re-assignment surgery is not a panacea, but it does make a significant difference in the subject's quality of life and if you were working beside him/her, you wouldn't know the difference. One Prof I met spent US$120,000 on her transition. She is still teaching Business Administration with no sign of mental disturbance.
You don't get it do you? In the 50s and 60s queers were happy to just live their lives and go about their business and no one cared, sure, society poked fun, and made jokes, Milton Berl comes to mind and we accepted them, that was life, that is, until Harry Hayes a known Marxist fag wanted to destroy American culture, look it up.
Then the Marxist left wasn't gaining enough ground on the gay movement and all the other created victims in the party, so they created "LGBTQA", which if you're paying close attention, they're claiming pederasts are merely misunderstood.
Seeing the bigger picture yet? The entire sexual movement by the left actually nearly destroyed women's sports by forcing trans into the mix. Now are you beginning to understand what the left has done?
They are trying to mainstream sexual perversion down the peoples throats and a backlash has begun.
It is clear we are all fixed in our positions. No point in wasting our time.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
It is clear we are all fixed in our positions. No point in wasting our time.
Yet, you guys push and push and push.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
It is clear we are all fixed in our positions. No point in wasting our time.
And now we know your reason for posting, to start "debating".
Just a troll.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 26, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
It is clear we are all fixed in our positions. No point in wasting our time.
At least now you know the truth behind the movement and why it will never be socially acceptable to mutilate oneself and call yourself a girl.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 26, 2020, 09:48:37 PM
Yet, you guys push and push and push.
What do you mean "you guys?"
Quote from: Possum on April 27, 2020, 03:14:45 AM
And now we know your reason for posting, to start "debating".
Just a troll.
My reason for posting was to correct your lack of knowledge in this area.
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2020, 05:36:26 AM
At least now you know the truth behind the movement and why it will never be socially acceptable to mutilate oneself and call yourself a girl.
Would you undergo mutilation if you needed to correct a cleft pallet or a significant facial scar?
Do you include female to male gender re-assignment surgery in you prohibited list?
My reference to the prof is to illustrate that gender re-assignment surgery is very expensive and requires several years of assessment before the patient is permitted to have the surgery. It is not something you would do on a whim.
As for social acceptance, the police inspector I referred to, returned to work after completing her transition and her fellow police officers covered her desk with flowers and welcome back cards. She was featured on a documentary by the CBC.
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2020, 05:36:26 AM
At least now you know the truth behind the movement and why it will never be socially acceptable to mutilate oneself and call yourself a girl.
You call yourself a "conservative" yet you believe society has the right to dictate how an adult citizen is supposed to live their life. That is socialism. You say you know what is good for a complete stranger. That is what a liberal would say.
You are being hypocritical...like the rest of us.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 27, 2020, 07:06:55 AM
Would you undergo mutilation if you needed to correct a cleft pallet or a significant facial scar?
Don't assume body mutilation is the answer to a mental issue. A cleft pallet is not an mental issue.
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2020, 07:12:32 AM
Don't assume body mutilation is the answer to a mental issue. A cleft pallet is not an mental issue.
The DSM does not consider transgender as a mental disorder.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 27, 2020, 07:25:35 AM
The DSM does not consider transgender as a mental disorder.
Yeah, I remember when queer was. Yes, the Marxists invaded the upper echelons of the psychiatric "industry".
You know nothing of Marxism, do you? Start by reading up on Fabian Socialism.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/fabian-societhy/msg225994/#msg225994
You are confusing homosexuality with being transgender. There are some people in the transgender community who are gay but many are not. A woman who transitions to male, may live as a gay man, but that is because he likes men.
It is a similar situation with crossdressers (not the same thing as transgender). Male crossdressers make up about 3% of men, but the proportion of gays among the crossdresser population is the same as in the population as a whole, about 9%.
Quote from: Solar on April 27, 2020, 07:42:52 AM
Yeah, I remember when queer was. Yes, the Marxists invaded the upper echelons of the psychiatric "industry".
You know nothing of Marxism, do you? Start by reading up on Fabian Socialism.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/fabian-societhy/msg225994/#msg225994
I don't need to read up on Fabian socialism. I've lived under three separate NDP governments in both BC and Saskatchewan. You may have an academic knowledge of what socialism is on paper but have you ever lived under it?
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 27, 2020, 08:02:52 AM
I don't need to read up on Fabian socialism. I've lived under three separate NDP governments in both BC and Saskatchewan. You may have an academic knowledge of what socialism is on paper but have you ever lived under it?
Yes, I have, and that's why I've been studying it for decades. Your need to ignore how leftists come to power is why I posted the link.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 27, 2020, 06:59:27 AM
What do you mean "you guys?"
You joined a Conservative site, and are arguing on a hot topic of discussion between Left and Right. You are not the first to come here, and you will not be the last. We see you guys come and go. Still trying to figure out if you are here to troll or not.
You say you are not Trans or gay, then why the big push to force others to like it? It reminds of some other lefty I interacted with online: they thought the homosexual act is disgusting, but was one of the biggest bullies with insulting and pushing that agenda.
As I said: don't complain about keeping out of the bedroom, when you guys keep inviting people in.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 27, 2020, 09:47:33 AM
You joined a Conservative site, and are arguing on a hot topic of discussion between Left and Right. You are not the first to come here, and you will not be the last. We see you guys come and go. Still trying to figure out if you are here to troll or not.
You say you are not Trans or gay, then why the big push to force others to like it? It reminds of some other lefty I interacted with online: they thought the homosexual act is disgusting, but was one of the biggest bullies with insulting and pushing that agenda
As I said: don't complain about keeping out of the bedroom, when you guys keep inviting people in.
As a conservative (I've was a Conservative activist for 35 years, working on campaigns for Stanfield, Clark, Erik Neilsen and a half dozen others, and ran for the Conservative Party in 1976), it is not my place to force you to do or believe anything. I was commenting on the article by Gliske and the response to my comments contained errors in fact that had nothing to do with left wing or right wing politics.
I no more have the right to tell you what to believe than we do to tell a transgendered person how to live their life. If we did, that would make us liberals (we know what's good for you types)
Conservatives don't argue with other Conservatives about issues they don't support.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 27, 2020, 11:49:47 AM
Conservatives don't argue with other Conservatives about issues they don't support.
I've never met a conservative who didn't love to argue. :biggrin:
It is the liberals and NDP who walk and talk in lock-step.
Quote from: Tory Potter on April 27, 2020, 12:12:34 PM
I've never met a conservative who didn't love to argue. :biggrin:
It is the liberals and NDP who walk and talk in lock-step.
We don't argue. We debate or discuss. Lefties argue.
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 27, 2020, 12:55:32 PM
We don't argue. We debate or discuss. Lefties argue.
I stand corrected.