Quote from: Possum on April 29, 2024, 05:38:42 PM  and yet liberals use those exact words to try to prove free speech is not an absolute. You can not teach them "causing chaos" is the crime and not a right.

Quote from: Solar on April 29, 2024, 05:04:27 PMExactly!
Like yelling fire in a theater, is legal, unless your intent is to cause chaos.

  and yet liberals use those exact words to try to prove free speech is not an absolute. You can not teach them "causing chaos" is the crime and not a right.

Quote from: je_freedom on April 29, 2024, 05:02:36 PMI think that SAYING "Death to America" IS covered under the First Amendment.

But when those who are saying it start to DO something,
like block sidewalks, freeways, commit vandalism,
threaten (menace) individuals (Jewish or other),
then the chanters should be arrested and prosecuted.
And the "Death to America" chant should be considered an aggravating factor.

The motivation behind a crime has long been considered
a factor in determining the severity of the crime.
Vandalism is usually considered a misdemeanor.
But vandalism motivated by a desire to overthrow the government
becomes part of an attempt to overthrow the government,
and should be prosecuted as such.

Exactly!
Like yelling fire in a theater, is legal, unless your intent is to cause chaos.

Quote from: Solar on April 28, 2024, 03:12:15 PMNow, here's a question. Is chanting "Death To America" covered under the First?

I think that SAYING "Death to America" IS covered under the First Amendment.

But when those who are saying it start to DO something,
like block sidewalks, freeways, commit vandalism,
threaten (menace) individuals (Jewish or other),
then the chanters should be arrested and prosecuted.
And the "Death to America" chant should be considered an aggravating factor.

The motivation behind a crime has long been considered
a factor in determining the severity of the crime.
Vandalism is usually considered a misdemeanor.
But vandalism motivated by a desire to overthrow the government
becomes part of an attempt to overthrow the government,
and should be prosecuted as such.

https://100percentfedup.com/covid-19-jab-manufacturer-admits-first-time-shot/

QuoteAstraZeneca, for the first time, admitted its experimental COVID-19 shot can cause a potentially deadly side effect.

The UK-based COVID-19 jab manufacturer acknowledged in legal documents submitted to the United Kingdom High Court that its shot "can, in very rare cases, cause TTS."

law suits won't be far behind. I read, and can not find now, that it is estimated the vaccine will have killed more people than Stalin starved to death when this is all through. I hope we the people will never be that stupid again.