Not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but here's how I see it...................

The republicans figure that poor girls, (regardless of race), WANT to become nothing more than sperm receptacles for random donors...................THEY DON'T

Republicans figure that poor girls WANT to have abortions................THEY DON'T

Republicans figure that people are completely happy living in the gutter on $1000 a month from the government...........THEY AREN'T

Democrats have worked hard to keep these people, (regardless of race), exactly where they are, and voting democrap.

Whites make up the majority of welfare recipients, but they aren't seen...........................want to know why?

They aren't corralled into government housing projects like blacks are......................want to know why?

Because it is democrat liberals that think that whites are superior, and they don't dare put them in situations where they can organize into criminal enterprises. They were wrong about blacks. They have proven quite adept at organizing themselves and running thriving businesses....................albeit, ruthless and illegal ones.

The message from republicans is a simple one, and they have to mean it.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS. WE WILL HELP YOU CHANGE IT.

If they can find a way to vocalize this message, and let people know that they are not the scum that democrats have made them into......................they will win.

People are born to learn things and be productive. Democrats stifle that basic human instinct. It's the only possible way for them to hold onto power.

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 05:51:40 PM
Who said it did....certainly not me.

You said the Dems look out for minorities, then used affirmative action as an example. That isn't helping them -- it hurts them.

Who were those White Guys that voted for Obama.......certainly a lot more of them than generally thought.

As the following makes clear...........http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/white-guys-voted-for-obama-too/2012/11/09/d165d16e-2a98-11e2-b4e0-

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 05:57:14 PM
Who were those White Guys that voted for Obama.......certainly a lot more of them than generally thought.

As the following makes clear...........http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/white-guys-voted-for-obama-too/2012/11/09/d165d16e-2a98-11e2-b4e0-

"page not found"  It's not a complete link

Let me try that one more time...............http://supersaiyan.newsvine.com/_news/2012/11/12/15113548-white-guys-voted-for-obama-too

Quote from: taxed on December 29, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
You said the Dems look out for minorities, then used affirmative action as an example. That isn't helping them -- it hurts them.

I do agree with that....but the perception amongst the minorities is quite the opposite thus they overwhelmingly support it and really believe the democrats are helping them. 

No matter how many facts you present to them they will not change their allegiance...thus....it is a lose ...lose sitution for the Republicans to cater to the minorities because:  the minorities will not give them their vote and they are alienating the only class that is willing to elect them if treated right....The White Working Class.

Quote from: kramarat on December 29, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
Not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but here's how I see it...................

The republicans figure that poor girls, (regardless of race), WANT to become nothing more than sperm receptacles for random donors...................THEY DON'T

Republicans figure that poor girls WANT to have abortions................THEY DON'T

Republicans figure that people are completely happy living in the gutter on $1000 a month from the government...........THEY AREN'T

Democrats have worked hard to keep these people, (regardless of race), exactly where they are, and voting democrap.

Whites make up the majority of welfare recipients, but they aren't seen...........................want to know why?

They aren't corralled into government housing projects like blacks are......................want to know why?

Because it is democrat liberals that think that whites are superior, and they don't dare put them in situations where they can organize into criminal enterprises. They were wrong about blacks. They have proven quite adept at organizing themselves and running thriving businesses....................albeit, ruthless and illegal ones.

The message from republicans is a simple one, and they have to mean it.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS. WE WILL HELP YOU CHANGE IT.

If they can find a way to vocalize this message, and let people know that they are not the scum that democrats have made them into......................they will win.

People are born to learn things and be productive. Democrats stifle that basic human instinct. It's the only possible way for them to hold onto power.

You make some good points but if you really believe the attitudes of the minorities can be changed anytime in our lifetimes you are very wrong.

Now it is highly possible some say even probably that the Republican Big Wigs will do exactly what you say.....I mean they will try to do what you say....but it is doomed to failure.

In fact unless the Republicans wake up....they may never win another election...actually though at this point it is even too early to say for sure that the Republican Party will exist by the time the next Presidential Election rolls around.

In a nutshell what matters to the masses is perception ...not reality. 

One further thing about helpling minorities.....It could be done but it would have to be done against their will....meaning their current perceptions and behavior is so ingrained it would be easier to change a muslim into a Christian than to change a democratic minoirty person into a Republican.....that also applies to a lit of die in hard democratic white folk....particuarly the older ones who grew up in the depression or therabouts though they are dying off quite rapidly now.

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 05:37:10 PM
Read and weep>>>>>>>http://eeoguidance.com/eeoguidance/which_eeo_laws_apply.asp

Do you have a comprehension issue, what did I say about Govt?

What entities are subject to the requirements of Executive Order 11246?

If a business or organization has a Federal contract, subcontract, or federally assisted construction contract it may be subject to the requirements of Executive Order 11246. Generally speaking, any business or organization that (1) holds a single Federal contract, subcontract,

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 06:21:36 PM
One further thing about helpling minorities.....It could be done but it would have to be done against their will....meaning their current perceptions and behavior is so ingrained it would be easier to change a muslim into a Christian than to change a democratic minoirty person into a Republican.....that also applies to a lit of die in hard democratic white folk....particuarly the older ones who grew up in the depression or therabouts though they are dying off quite rapidly now.

I wish you would stop saying "minorities".

I've got two "white" grown daughters, and a dead "white" ex wife that got sucked into the government cheese. The ex wife came from a long line of government dependents..........................my bad. I was young and stupid. I'm still paying the price.

Nobody said that changing them will be easy, but this problem is not a color issue. It's an issue with having a government that thrives on dependents....................................it's not just the damned democrats either. The republicans just hand out the free stuff to a different set of people.

Quote from: kramarat on December 29, 2012, 06:40:17 PM
I wish you would stop saying "minorities".

I've got two "white" grown daughters, and a dead "white" ex wife that got sucked into the government cheese. The ex wife came from a long line of government dependents..........................my bad. I was young and stupid. I'm still paying the price.

Nobody said that changing them will be easy, but this problem is not a color issue. It's an issue with having a government that thrives on dependents....................................it's not just the damned democrats either. The republicans just hand out the free stuff to a different set of people.

Again.....you make good points....and it is true many white folk have gotten misled...to the point now where we are on the verge of going completely socialistic...which of course does not work...just an illusion...and there will be a tremendous price to pay for it.

I am just being realistic...it is not a question of which is the easiest or the hardest way to change the course of America...it is a question of what is possible and what is not.

Even with the best of education programs(if they were even available) would have little influence on the die hard minority democrats......they are completely sold on the democratic party come hell or high water. 

The majority of White Working People though are more amenable to change....look at the huge droves that fled  the democratic party aka the Reagan Democrats....look at how the solid democratic south became republican...so it is my contention that the White Working Class can be reached.... of whom too many either stayed home this time or voted democratic.

The Republican party  must come up with a platform and candidate that convinces the White Working Class that the Republicans   really have something to offer them than other than  just lip service i.e.

A guranteed College Education for their kids....all who are qualified that is for higher education.

Does it really make any sense to provide a higher education for minorities even when they are not  qualified for academic success....  And at the same time deny an education to gifted white kids whose parents cannot afford to send them to college?

Most White Working People understand the stupidity of affirmative action and the pc lauded pursuit of diversity....Most White Working People know that b.s. is a myth yet it has been crammed down their throats and they are paying for it....absolutely outrageous!

Things have gotten so bad in this area that Many White Working Folk cannot even afford to own a car....the isurance rates have gotten so bad not to mention the costs of repairing or buying a new car. 

I see more and more white guys riding a bicycle to work...it is even chaper now to take a cab than own a car....and look how the price of groceries is going up and up.....how long will it before you have to line up to buy a loaf of bread even if you have the money like happened in socialist russia.

Super Inflation is on the horizon....White Working Folk better get prepared to suffer...and learn basic survival skills...it is going to get bad....real bad.

So much for the American dream...things are changing and real fast...who knows what our living conditions will be in 4 years?   One thing for sure...we will not be better off.....that is for damn sure.

Quote from: Solar on December 29, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
Do you have a comprehension issue, what did I say about Govt?

What entities are subject to the requirements of Executive Order 11246?

If a business or organization has a Federal contract, subcontract, or federally assisted construction contract it may be subject to the requirements of Executive Order 11246. Generally speaking, any business or organization that (1) holds a single Federal contract, subcontract,

DO YOU KNOW WHICH EEO AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EMPLOYMENT LAWS APPLY TO YOUR BUSINESS?
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) cover all private employers, state and local governments, and education institutions that employ 15 or more individuals. These laws also cover private and public employment agencies, labor organizations, and joint labor management committees controlling apprenticeship and training

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
Again.....you make good points....and it is true many white folk have gotten misled...to the point now where we are on the verge of going completely socialistic...which of course does not work...just an illusion...and there will be a tremendous price to pay for it.

I am just being realistic...it is not a question of which is the easiest or the hardest way to change the course of America...it is a question of what is possible and what is not.

Even with the best of education programs(if they were even available) would have little influence on the die hard minority democrats......they are completely sold on the democratic party come hell or high water. 

The majority of White Working People though are more amenable to change....look at the huge droves that fled  the democratic party aka the Reagan Democrats....look at how the solid democratic south became republican...so it is my contention that the White Working Class can be reached.... of whom too many either stayed home this time or voted democratic.

The Republican party  must come up with a platform and candidate that convinces the White Working Class that the Republicans   really have something to offer them than other than  just lip service i.e.

A guranteed College Education for their kids....all who are qualified that is for higher education.

Does it really make any sense to provide a higher education for minorities even when they are not  qualified for academic success....  And at the same time deny an education to gifted white kids whose parents cannot afford to send them to college?

Most White Working People understand the stupidity of affirmative action and the pc lauded pursuit of diversity....Most White Working People know that b.s. is a myth yet it has been crammed down their throats and they are paying for it....absolutely outrageous!

Things have gotten so bad in this area that Many White Working Folk cannot even afford to own a car....the isurance rates have gotten so bad not to mention the costs of repairing or buying a new car. 

I see more and more white guys riding a bicycle to work...it is even chaper now to take a cab than own a car....and look how the price of groceries is going up and up.....how long will it before you have to line up to buy a loaf of bread even if you have the money like happened in socialist russia.

Super Inflation is on the horizon....White Working Folk better get prepared to suffer...and learn basic survival skills...it is going to get bad....real bad.

So much for the American dream...things are changing and real fast...who knows what our living conditions will be in 4 years?   One thing for sure...we will not be better off.....that is for damn sure.

Democrats are the racists. Affirmative action proves it.

One of the ways that democrats win elections, is to tell black and hispanic people, " You are not as smart as white people. We know you cannot pass the tests on your own, so we will give you an easier test to make it fair."

The number of black people that are seeing through the democrat racism, grows by the year. If the chicken shit republicans would stop being such timid mice, they could convey that message.

This country was built on individualism...................it succeeded.

Everyone loses if the democrats, (and Obama in particular), are able to pull off this collectivist shit they are peddling. It's been tried before. Government becomes royalty, and the entire population, peasants.

The asshole republicans are playing their cards close.......................because they would like to part of the royalty. Better to be a part of the ruling class, than one of the peasants.

Affirmative Action and Private Business Owners..........http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2002/04/22/focus3.html

Quote from: SmilinJack on December 29, 2012, 07:43:05 PM
Affirmative Action and Private Business Owners..........http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2002/04/22/focus3.html

I'm fully aware of it. I have been forced to hire unqualified black people and unqualified women.

Again. This is not a race problem, it's a problem with our government.