Why We Keep Winning

Started by Solar, October 28, 2018, 07:14:30 AM

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Quote from: AmericanMom on October 31, 2018, 08:34:52 PM
I cant remember exactly how many republican are quitting this year alone.. wasn't it like 33 or something?
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Yes, it's a lot, and I think only two were somewhat Conservative. That's quite the purge, and we haven't even hit midterm yet. :thumbsup:
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Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
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Yes, it's a lot, and I think only two were somewhat Conservative. That's quite the purge, and we haven't even hit midterm yet. :thumbsup:

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Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2018, 07:47:19 PM
Did you even read my OP?
The only way we're going to Right this ship, is when we kick every leftist out of the GOP and steal the party for ourselves.
The GOP has never been about the country or the Constitution, not once in its entire history, it has always been about serving the interests industry and its own self interests. It's time to make it the Conservative party.
Yes, I did read your OP, and I agree wholeheartedly that we need to take back the Conservative party, which has in my opinion become Liberal lite. But then the problem would be getting a Republican elected in large population areas where voters have been made most dependent on government spending and programs created by Liberals (Democrats). I maintain that the source of sovereignty is the people, individuals, who create societies at the local level of government. That is where laws begin, which the members create for their well being and safety. Beyond that, the State in which the local governments exist, create laws within which the local governments each find beneficial and acceptable. And lastly, the people and their States give responsibility to the Federal government things which require collective coordination. We need to change our system of government to where our Federal representatives are not elected on the basis of how much pork they can bring back home into how much revenue they can keep home and put to use most efficiently. Repealing the 16th and 17th amendments is an absolute must, which would then greatly promote sending conservative representatives to represent us in our Federal government, allowing States to become as Liberally governed as their people will allow. Not to mention that the Federal budget could then easily be balanced, with rare and temporary exceptions. State governments would then be made responsible for creating an environment in which their citizens would be able to prosper more or less equally. Essentially, what I have been promoting is a fundamental return to rational and reasonable government as intended by our founders, and as espoused in our Declaration of Independence, by the words "all men are created equal", which as I was taught many, many years ago, had nothing to do with economics but only with rule of their lives. Success is an achievement, NOT an entitlement. While freedom and liberty allow pursuit of success, they do not and never were meant to preclude failure.

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Quote from: AmericanMom on October 31, 2018, 08:01:43 PM
So much work left to do. We can not rest. The left has had a generation or two of indoctrination ..  Its a long road but one that will pay off in huge dividends.

  Many here know, I was no Trump supporter, I only decided to vote for him on the last day I was able to and still have time to mail in my ballot.  I held out a slim hope he would atleast keep the one promise that mattered to be.. Conservative Judges...  Boy did he fullfill that promise and so much more.  Today, nearly two years later and I proudly wear my Trump support for all to see.  Are there some thing I would like to see worked on?.. sure.. our spending is out of control and we MUST get a handle on it, pay down our debt and cut all non essential programs, this country needs a serious re-start where it comes to fiscal responsibility which is exactly what I think Trump is going to do. FIRST the big spending RINOs' have to go, we need to solidify his support (which next week I think will leave no doubt of)  I would like to see a balance in Washington, a balance of power but the Obama leftist have to go, the Antifa wanna-be's have to go, the Ryan;s and the Flakes.. gone. We must ALL work together.

TEA never died, we never left.. WE have been hard at work

Excellent summary!  :thumbup:
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5h5 hours ago

AZ party Registration is 35R/30D/35I.  So far EARLY VOTING has been 43R/34D/16I. And yet, an NBC poll has the Democrat leading the Senate race by 6!  Oh yeah, also, only 6% of voters are young.

In case I didn't just make it clear, the #BlueWave is a LIE and polls are bullsh*t.


That guy  doesnt think it will be a democrat year.

AndyJackson

This is shaping up to be another unmasking of the fake polls and media collusion with the dems.  To the horror of the dems, when it turns out just the opposite of what the media is pitching.  Get ready for "RUSSIA  RUSSIA  RUSSIA part 2".

I'm also thinking that the Trump strategizing is kicking in too.  What he did in 2016 was masterful, just as you'd expect from a career business competitor and winner / billionaire.  Just the opposite of a braindead idealogue narcissist like the Clintons / Obamas who do nothing but sit on their asses, and wait for delivery of their prizes.

Trump is really barnstorming like crazy, precisely where it will make a big difference.  It's cool to watch.  While the left plays the same exact pitiful game as they did in 2016.

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Quote from: Individual on October 31, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Yes, I did read your OP, and I agree wholeheartedly that we need to take back the Conservative party, which has in my opinion become Liberal lite. But then the problem would be getting a Republican elected in large population areas where voters have been made most dependent on government spending and programs created by Liberals (Democrats). I maintain that the source of sovereignty is the people, individuals, who create societies at the local level of government. That is where laws begin, which the members create for their well being and safety. Beyond that, the State in which the local governments exist, create laws within which the local governments each find beneficial and acceptable. And lastly, the people and their States give responsibility to the Federal government things which require collective coordination. We need to change our system of government to where our Federal representatives are not elected on the basis of how much pork they can bring back home into how much revenue they can keep home and put to use most efficiently. Repealing the 16th and 17th amendments is an absolute must, which would then greatly promote sending conservative representatives to represent us in our Federal government, allowing States to become as Liberally governed as their people will allow. Not to mention that the Federal budget could then easily be balanced, with rare and temporary exceptions. State governments would then be made responsible for creating an environment in which their citizens would be able to prosper more or less equally. Essentially, what I have been promoting is a fundamental return to rational and reasonable government as intended by our founders, and as espoused in our Declaration of Independence, by the words "all men are created equal", which as I was taught many, many years ago, had nothing to do with economics but only with rule of their lives. Success is an achievement, NOT an entitlement. While freedom and liberty allow pursuit of success, they do not and never were meant to preclude failure.
I don't disagree, but I think you're getting way ahead in the process. First let's focus on the basics of stealing the GOP, getting Cultural America used to the idea that living within ones means is the really cool thing to do, get the culture to start demanding a Fair Tax system, one where the Fed is put on a tight budget.
Then and only then will we be able to move away from the welfare state, but until the culture in this country is comfortable with a change in values, you're not changing one thing.

Yes, I remember when owing taxes or taking welfare was akin to a scarlet letter in public, that having a baby out of wedlock got one shunned, so don't expect to see any cultural change anytime soon, it's a slow process, a generational process, as evidenced with the left destruction of our culture in 40 short years.
It takes even longer to repair it, a concerted effort by govt and the people. Remember, the left still holds the media and they will do their best to stop us. I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but we have to face reality when fighting this war, it's going to take decades to win, but I believe we can do it because technology keeps changing and it's all been to our advantage.
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Quote from: Solar on October 31, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
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Yes, it's a lot, and I think only two were somewhat Conservative. That's quite the purge, and we haven't even hit midterm yet. :thumbsup:
It will definitely be an interesting new landscape, with all the most powerful RINO's gone, and the lesser ones that are left jumping on the Trump bandwagon.

The dems will win a few of these nail-biters, and the balance is still murky, but just the RINO house-cleaning is bigger than all that.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on November 01, 2018, 07:02:52 AM
It will definitely be an interesting new landscape, with all the most powerful RINO's gone, and the lesser ones that are left jumping on the Trump bandwagon.

The dems will win a few of these nail-biters, and the balance is still murky, but just the RINO house-cleaning is bigger than all that.
Grahmnasty comes to mind. I don't know if it's an act because he's worried about the midterms, or that he actually now supports Trump's agenda. which I kind of doubt.
I'll rely on the voters to do the Right thing, but you're right, with so many RINO being purged, things are changing rapidly and I can't wait to rub it in the libs faces after the elections are complete.
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He seems  very  confident.


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I was right then. I'm right now.  Republicans hold the House (comfortably) and make a mighty run at Super Majority in the Senate.

2019 will be the most #MAGA year ever!

Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on November 01, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
He seems  very  confident.


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I was right then. I'm right now.  Republicans hold the House (comfortably) and make a mighty run at Super Majority in the Senate.

2019 will be the most #MAGA year ever!
So what happened, did you finally turn off CNN?
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Quote from: ldub23 on November 01, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
He seems  very  confident.


Bill Mitchell
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I was right then. I'm right now.  Republicans hold the House (comfortably) and make a mighty run at Super Majority in the Senate.

2019 will be the most #MAGA year ever!
Boy, if this really happens, it will be hilarious but a bit tenuous, to wait and see what these idiots actually do afterwards.

I'm thinking actual suicides and murders and riots that aren't nearly as quaint as what we've already seen.  Not all that funny, but I guess you can't stop sick from being sick.  Just stay in the house for a while, kinda like The Purge.

Hopefully they end up victimizing each other as much as possible, instead of innocent random people.

ldub23

Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
So what happened, did you finally turn off CNN?

I still think they lose the  House but  i just wanted to post what he  is saying. He hosts a radio show.

Solar

Quote from: ldub23 on November 01, 2018, 04:49:26 PM
I still think they lose the  House but  i just wanted to post what he  is saying. He hosts a radio show.
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Quote from: Solar on November 01, 2018, 07:02:24 AM
I don't disagree, but I think you're getting way ahead in the process. First let's focus on the basics of stealing the GOP, getting Cultural America used to the idea that living within ones means is the really cool thing to do, get the culture to start demanding a Fair Tax system, one where the Fed is put on a tight budget.
Then and only then will we be able to move away from the welfare state, but until the culture in this country is comfortable with a change in values, you're not changing one thing.

Yes, I remember when owing taxes or taking welfare was akin to a scarlet letter in public, that having a baby out of wedlock got one shunned, so don't expect to see any cultural change anytime soon, it's a slow process, a generational process, as evidenced with the left destruction of our culture in 40 short years.
It takes even longer to repair it, a concerted effort by govt and the people. Remember, the left still holds the media and they will do their best to stop us. I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, but we have to face reality when fighting this war, it's going to take decades to win, but I believe we can do it because technology keeps changing and it's all been to our advantage.

I'm not seeing any process in motion by which change will accomplish anything lasting.
All things equal, strength is in numbers. Conservatives do not represent a majority of the voting population, nor are all those who vote for GOP candidates conservative. By what means do you feel cultural America can/would be brought to accept "living within ones means"? When only the top 10% of taxpayers are paying equal or more than what government is spending per person, how would you define a "Fair Tax System"? How might you entice voters to demand a tight budget when that would for most voters require giving up something government is providing them?

I maintain that our problems are rooted primarily in the change which occurred in 1913, the 16th and 17th amendments and the Federal Reserve Act, which has collectivized all citizens and States under control of our Federal government. Those who are taxed the most are willing to pay more, giving liberal politicians the means to attract votes of those who see government programs as their primary means of support, with negative consequences primarily impacting those of the middle class working taxpayers who are diminishing in numbers AND are the primary source of conservatives remaining.

While we may win an election now and then, I see no way of making significant and lasting changes without taking the power of the purse from our Federal government FIRST.