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Started by ldub23, January 12, 2022, 08:33:41 PM

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Possum

Quote from: ldub23 on January 12, 2022, 10:25:44 PMYou mean like all 50 now  opposing stalinizing America? You make  my point quite well. 1 more vote and dems would be  powerless.
Well lets see. You make it seem as if rinos do not vote with democrats.
 

QuoteNineteen Republicans joined Democrats in voting for the bipartisan infrastructure deal on Tuesday. They are:
1. Roy Blunt of Missouri
2. Richard Burr of North Carolina
3. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
4. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
5. Susan Collins of Maine
6. Kevin Cramer of North Dakota
7. Mike Crapo of Idaho
8. Deb Fischer of Nebraska
9. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
10. Chuck Grassley of Iowa
11. John Hoeven of North Dakota
12. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
13. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
14. Rob Portman of Ohio
15. Jim Risch of Idaho
16. Mitt Romney of Utah
17. Dan Sullivan of Alaska
18. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
19. Roger Wicker of Mississippi



QuoteThe House of Representatives voted to impeach President Donald Trump on Wednesday afternoon charging him with "incitement of insurrection." Among the vote were 10 House Republicans. That includes:
1. Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
2. Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming
3. Rep. John Katko of New York
4. Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan
5. Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
6. Rep. Dan Newhouse of Washington
7. Rep. Peter Meijer of Michigan
8. Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
9. Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina
10. Rep. David Valadao of California

QuoteThirteen Republicans in the House voted with Democrats to approve the bill to build back better. They are:

Rep. John Katko of New York
Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska
Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
Rep. Don Young of Alaska
Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan
Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
Rep. Tom Reed of New York
Rep. Andrew Garbarino of New York
Rep. Nicole Malliotakis of New York
Rep. David McKinley of West Virginia
Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey

This is not a list that shows backbone and integrity. This is a list of what a coward looks like. And yet you say this is the type of person we need to vote for? That we need running this country? That THEY WILL KEEP THE DEMOCRATS FROM GETTING THEIR OBJECTIVE?  Manchin and Sinema have shown more courage in fighting for this country than this bunch.

A a little off the subject of this post but you still need to prove your statement where you claimed Cruz said this "He  is INTENTIONALLY calling  us terrorists to make a  point." You know the rules, this forum deals in facts and calls out bull sh-t. Prove your claim or retract it.

Solar

Quote from: Possum on January 14, 2022, 09:02:36 PMWell lets see. You make it seem as if rinos do not vote with democrats.
 
This is not a list that shows backbone and integrity. This is a list of what a coward looks like. And yet you say this is the type of person we need to vote for? That we need running this country? That THEY WILL KEEP THE DEMOCRATS FROM GETTING THEIR OBJECTIVE?  Manchin and Sinema have shown more courage in fighting for this country than this bunch.

A a little off the subject of this post but you still need to prove your statement where you claimed Cruz said this "He  is INTENTIONALLY calling  us terrorists to make a  point." You know the rules, this forum deals in facts and calls out bull sh-t. Prove your claim or retract it.
Well, we know he's not a conservative, so what's his angle? :sneaky:
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Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2022, 10:31:20 PMWell, we know he's not a conservative, so what's his angle? :sneaky:
Liberals do not have to be in the democrat party to get their agenda passed. the dnc is dead, it will no longer pass anything. But the liberals will still be there.

 I expect to see some of them jump over and run as a moderate republican to join up with the rinos already there. I do not see radical legislation brought up such as the voting bill, but there will be legislation brought up that conservatives would not.

 The dnc is dead, now is not the time to accept a half victory. Rino's need to jump over to the democrats, we do not need democrats jumping over to lock hands with liberal republicans.

Not sure if this is his angle, but what he is and has been suggesting is in no way conservative. I am suspicious of anyone who overlooks the actions of some people while jumping all over something he claims was said by others, and then will not back it up.

Solar

Quote from: Possum on January 14, 2022, 10:43:34 PMLiberals do not have to be in the democrat party to get their agenda passed. the dnc is dead, it will no longer pass anything. But the liberals will still be there.

 I expect to see some of them jump over and run as a moderate republican to join up with the rinos already there. I do not see radical legislation brought up such as the voting bill, but there will be legislation brought up that conservatives would not.

 The dnc is dead, now is not the time to accept a half victory. Rino's need to jump over to the democrats, we do not need democrats jumping over to lock hands with liberal republicans.

Not sure if this is his angle, but what he is and has been suggesting is in no way conservative. I am suspicious of anyone who overlooks the actions of some people while jumping all over something he claims was said by others, and then will not back it up.
Yep, as if he has some form of agenda. Ya know, Hitler loved dogs, so he couldn't have been all that bad, so how could one little lib in the GOP... Can't hurt, Right?. :rolleyes:

I don't know if you ever saw this, but I wrote this a decade ago, and truth is, we finally made it, yet we have people who still want to maintain the statusquo of keeping the left in power?

It's dated, but the message remains the same.


https://newsblaze.com/thoughts/opinions/will-america-be-safe-with-bunch-of-rino-at-helm_23977/
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Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2022, 10:53:18 PMYep, as if he has some form of agenda. Ya know, Hitler loved dogs, so he couldn't have been all that bad, so how could one little lib in the GOP... Can't hurt, Right?. :rolleyes:

I don't know if you ever saw this, but I wrote this a decade ago, and truth is, we finally made it, yet we have people who still want to maintain the statusquo of keeping the left in power?

It's dated, but the message remains the same.


https://newsblaze.com/thoughts/opinions/will-america-be-safe-with-bunch-of-rino-at-helm_23977/
Perfect. Needs to be required reading for anyone looking to join the forum. I do think this is the liberals gameplan, their party is now shot to hell.

Solar

Quote from: Possum on January 14, 2022, 11:01:30 PMPerfect. Needs to be required reading for anyone looking to join the forum. I do think this is the liberals gameplan, their party is now shot to hell.
Yep, and we won!
What's next, what can we expect? The GOP fighting us at every turn, and as you pointed out, Dims joining the GOP.
The last time that happened enmasse, was when Newt literally gutted the DNC and several Dims jumped ship to join the Establishment.

Sure, that killed the DNC, but I remember writing how it left one party dead and packed with the worst society had to offer, a bunch of radical Marxists.
I asked what we could expect at the time, because it appeared that we had won but in truth what we wound up with was a GOP packed with Establishment types that further cemented the likes of Boehner, Ryan, and McCONnel.

The planned takeover, a plan that took 6 plus decades had come to fruition, had been a success.
Now we've come full circle and the left is being beaten badly, so why in the world would anyone want to help the left at this stage of the game?   
Or should I say. Why would they want the Establishment in power, a Globalist power, to be more accurate...
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Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2022, 11:14:33 PMYep, and we won!
What's next, what can we expect? The GOP fighting us at every turn, and as you pointed out, Dims joining the GOP.
The last time that happened enmasse, was when Newt literally gutted the DNC and several Dims jumped ship to join the Establishment.

Sure, that killed the DNC, but I remember writing how it left one party dead and packed with the worst society had to offer, a bunch of radical Marxists.
I asked what we could expect at the time, because it appeared that we had won but in truth what we wound up with was a GOP packed with Establishment types that further cemented the likes of Boehner, Ryan, and McCONnel.

The planned takeover, a plan that took 6 plus decades had come to fruition, had been a success.
Now we've come full circle and the left is being beaten badly, so why in the world would anyone want to help the left at this stage of the game? 
Or should I say. Why would they want the Establishment in power, a Globalist power, to be more accurate...


Quoteso why in the world would anyone want to help the left at this stage of the game? 

Just in case it might get overlooked.  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  The balance of power is no longer 50/50. The dnc is dead, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

Solar

Quote from: Possum on January 14, 2022, 11:39:18 PMJust in case it might get overlooked.  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  The balance of power is no longer 50/50. The dnc is dead, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
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I've been saying it for over a decade. The left only remained in power through election theft and the GOP Establishment.
If not for these two issues, the DNC would have dissolved long ago.

I agree, the power is thoroughly entrenched on the Right, problem is, the money is locked up by the leftists in the GOP and committee seats for power.
They use the money to lord over others in the party to pull the Establishment line of thinking, or kiss any support come reelection time.

If I wasn't dying, I might have run for Congress, I'm that damned pissed!
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here's some good news on getting to that 51.


QuoteRep. John Katko (RINO-NY), one of 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, decided not to seek re-election Friday. Katko was also behind a bill to create a commission to investigate the Jan. 6 riot. That commission was rejected. He likely knows that he would be in deep trouble if he ran again. He was being challenged by a pro-Trump candidate, Andrew McCarthy. This is the third House Republican who voted for impeachment who is now quitting. The others are Rep. Adam Kinzinger (RINO-IL) and Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH).

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/01/15/trump-was-winning-even-before-he-began-speaking-at-rally-tonight-n507373

Dirtbomb

Quote from: Solar on January 15, 2022, 12:42:50 AM:biggrin:
I've been saying it for over a decade. The left only remained in power through election theft and the GOP Establishment.
If not for these two issues, the DNC would have dissolved long ago.

I agree, the power is thoroughly entrenched on the Right, problem is, the money is locked up by the leftists in the GOP and committee seats for power.
They use the money to lord over others in the party to pull the Establishment line of thinking, or kiss any support come reelection time.

If I wasn't dying, I might have run for Congress, I'm that damned pissed!

Until we are rid of the rinos the left will "progressively" continue to move their agenda forward. The establishment GOP love when the left is in power, they can move the Elites (their handlers) legislative desires while not having to take responsibility. IMO
Freedom is that instant between when someone tells you to do something and when you decide how to respond. -Jeffrey Borenstein

Solar

Quote from: Dirtbomb on January 17, 2022, 08:55:46 PMUntil we are rid of the rinos the left will "progressively" continue to move their agenda forward. The establishment GOP love when the left is in power, they can move the Elites (their handlers) legislative desires while not having to take responsibility. IMO
The existence of the Establishment is only at the pleasure of the Globalist State.
They took it over long before they destroyed the DNC. It was a masterful plan when you think about it.

I'm sure you've read this before, but do a quick recap to trigger your memory. We're there...

Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2021, 02:44:59 AMCURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of
moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether
or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle
the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as
long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up
as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe
the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete
with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their
activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist
propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in
textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under
Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking
positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American
Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute
shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive,
meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech
and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books,
magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and
emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates
the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with
modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern
for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the
ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since
the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education,
social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral
problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive
control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute
prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American
tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve
economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing
jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals
alike.
SOURCE:
Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist
Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.
Call Number: HX 56 S55
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Quote from: Solar on Today at 12:27:48 AMThe existence of the Establishment is only at the pleasure of the Globalist State.
They took it over long before they destroyed the DNC. It was a masterful plan when you think about it.

I'm sure you've read this before, but do a quick recap to trigger your memory. We're there...

Wouldn't those be more accurately described as the goals of the globalist Elites?
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Solar

Quote from: Dirtbomb on Today at 01:33:26 AMWouldn't those be more accurately described as the goals of the globalist Elites?
Yep, one and the same...
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